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11/29/2005 5:13:54 PM

i was about to be upset about LSU being in that, but then again, im not gonna wager against Pistol Pete, Bob Petit, and Shaq.

11/29/2005 5:16:11 PM

these results were totally expected

i mean, they are the top 4 seeds

11/29/2005 5:18:46 PM

what are we supposed to get pissed about again??

i think the lineup they used for us would have fared better than they give us credit for, but UNC's lineup is better than any other in that bracket.

just as long as they dont beat lsu, i will be cool

11/29/2005 6:01:53 PM

wasn't this posted like 2 weeks ago?

11/29/2005 6:26:11 PM

you realize unc will win because more fans will vote

11/29/2005 6:26:53 PM

what is the date on this?

11/29/2005 6:31:54 PM

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"you realize unc will win because of Jordan"

11/29/2005 7:13:26 PM

Where's the "Big Smooth"? Its an atrocity to leave Sam Perkins off of this squad. Walton will have his way with each and every one of those Hoya centers before outfinessing the Shaq-man. After all is said and done, Walton will challenge the absent Perkins to a pot-smoking contest in what will become the greatest battle in the history of western civilization. Truly, there are no losers in a pot-smoking contest. Even the crowd wins a little bit.

11/29/2005 7:59:26 PM

I like how we got matched up with the team of cheaters

11/29/2005 8:07:48 PM

as i said when this thing started in the other thread about the great college hoops tourney,
ucla and UNC will be in the finals

11/29/2005 9:04:05 PM

im saying UNC has got to be the one they are like the most winniest college every with Kentucky

11/29/2005 9:09:45 PM

Micheal Jordan? Who the fuck was he?

11/29/2005 9:11:48 PM

I dare say a team with Shaq and Pete Maravich, the best COLLEGE player of all time, would lose to anyome. But thats my opinion.

11/29/2005 10:53:07 PM

so where is DT then on your list of all times?

11/29/2005 11:54:22 PM

Maravich wanted to come here but couldnt get in.

DT is right up there behind him as #2 I would say. I mean come on, he averaged 44 points.

11/30/2005 12:01:21 AM

ucla has two of the top 5 players of all time, they only lost 1 game in 8 yrs of basketball. that's 8 rings, how many does pistol have? how many does jordan have? how many do 'zo, ewing, mutumbo and answer have?

top 5 in no order:
pistol
skywalker
lew
walton
O

[Edited on November 30, 2005 at 12:12 AM. Reason : a]

11/30/2005 12:11:42 AM

just a lil somn to point out...im pretty sure i read when this thing started that you are supposed to take into consideration the player when they were at their BEST, not just in college...idk if that changes anyones opinions...but it def makes a difference with jordan

11/30/2005 1:16:19 AM

well if that is the case then the whole thing is absurd

11/30/2005 9:13:42 AM

It's true. The competition includes college and pro careers.

It's completely retarded to compare who the best college is in terms of college AND pro careers.

11/30/2005 9:17:58 AM

Quote :

"ucla has two of the top 5 players of all time, they only lost 1 game in 8 yrs of basketball. that's 8 rings, how many does pistol have? how many does jordan have? how many do 'zo, ewing, mutumbo and answer have? top 5 in no order: pistol skywalker lew walton O"

I'd agree with your top 5, but the bit about championships is retarded.

By that logic:
Thompson must not be very good, because he couldn't take State to the championship in '75.
There must be a better NBA guard out there than Iverson, because he's never won a title.
Shaq's a shitty center, because he couldn't win the title last year.

...

There are so many other factors that go into a championship, not the least of which is the ridiculous recruiting that UCLA got during their span of dominance.

11/30/2005 9:30:15 AM

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"im saying UNC has got to be the one they are like the most winniest college every with Kentucky"

What?

11/30/2005 9:50:00 AM

you missed by pt

not winning a title doesnt mean pistol wasnt a great player

but walton and alcindor are not only great players but also proven winners.

don't you think duncan has established himself as the most dominant player right now?

dont you think shaq established himself as the dominant player when the lakers won 3 titles?

dont you think AI established himself by taking a team of scrubs to the finals?

dont you think carmelo established himself as a dominant college force by basically winning the ncaa championship?

dont you think DT established himself by helping his to team lost only 1 game over a 2 yr span?

this thread is about who would win. the guy above state he found it hard to believe that pete could lose when he was "the greatest" but the fact is he lost games against regular competition. on the other hand, walton and lew basically never lost. that HAS to come into the equation.

11/30/2005 9:51:06 AM

Yes, winning is a factor. Particularly at the end of games, a clutch player who can stay calm under pressure will make a HUGE difference. I agree with that part.

But even some of the examples you gave are ones I can't quite agree with. That Sixers team that went to the Finals wasn't just AI; they went that year because he had accepted that he had to let his teammates into the game (the same thing that Jordan figured out to put the Bulls on their first 3-title run). DT obviously wasn't the only factor in our undefeated season and our first title, because he alone couldn't do it his senior year (and DT was, no doubt, a winner).

This fantasy LSU squad (assuming all players are at their peaks, rather than Shaq in his college days) would give a strong challenge to UCLA, regardless of the titles won by UCLA back in Wooden's day.

11/30/2005 10:12:29 AM

that still doesnt change the fact that homeboy's statement above that lsu would win just b/c of pistol is stupid

thats all i have been trying to say

whether shaq in his prime could take walton/kareem in their primes is a whole 'nother question

although i still say deciding best college players based on their pro careers is stupid

11/30/2005 10:19:50 AM

Okay, yeah, no argument there, because my only point is that one player doesn't make a championship squad (although one can make the difference between "good" and "legendary").

And yeah, if we stick to just college days, Walton would destroy Shaq.

11/30/2005 10:22:58 AM

UNC is loosing in the poll right now... it ends today

11/30/2005 10:59:33 AM