jmpack15 All American 4470 Posts user info edit post |
one of the top RB's in the country, lesean mccoy is visiting us this weekend along with several other bigtime football recruits. if you see them at the basketball game, show them some love.
mccoy is from marcus stone's high school and we actually have a legit shot at him.
our RB depth is not as stock full as some think. next year we will have 2 true RB's: Brown and Baker... both SO.'s
Blackman will be at the slot and Bobby will be in the secondary.
Redshirt any RB we sign this year (McCoy, Adams... those are probably the only two we're after hard) and they will be 2 years behind Brown and Baker... pretty good deal for the future.
But anyways, if yall see the recruits... give them some shoutouts or something because there are several bigtime ones visiting 12/6/2005 12:20:21 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
we sure need another rb, dont we 12/6/2005 12:27:55 PM |
State409c Suspended 19558 Posts user info edit post |
Can we stick him on the OL? 12/6/2005 12:28:54 PM |
1234chs All American 2574 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "mccoy is from marcus stone's high school and we actually have a legit shot at him. " |
we actually have a legit outside shot at him12/6/2005 12:30:36 PM |
stoncuttr All American 2149 Posts user info edit post |
check out his Top 7 and tell me again that we have a legit shot
Quote : | "USC High Interest Yes 10/29/2005 Alabama Med Interest Yes None Miami (Fl) Med Interest Yes None North Carolina State Med Interest Yes 12/09/2005 Penn State Med Interest Yes None Virginia Tech Med Interest Yes 11/05/2005 " |
[Edited on December 6, 2005 at 1:09 PM. Reason : s]12/6/2005 1:08:33 PM |
jmpack15 All American 4470 Posts user info edit post |
Yes we have a legit shot. The guy is familar with Blackman and Stone. He is very close with Stone's family and wants to go to a school where he feels comfortable. We've got a pretty good pipeline from the state of PA working, hopefully this will be the next.
I'm not saying we will get him, we have a much better chance at signing the RB from Cary, Josh Adams, but we do have a legit shot at McCoy.
[Edited on December 6, 2005 at 1:12 PM. Reason : x] 12/6/2005 1:12:03 PM |
1234chs All American 2574 Posts user info edit post |
He played in 4 games as a freshamn while Stone was a senior. Thats not a huge connection.
and if we do get this kid...Josh Adams can go play in traffic or he can commit here and play DB or slot b/c he doesn't stand a chance playing RB here. 12/6/2005 1:18:17 PM |
phishbfm All American 4715 Posts user info edit post |
i believe they are family friends with with the cignetti's as well. I would say we have a legit shot. And say all you want about how we already have RB's...you always take a 5 star player at any position regardless of whether or not you "need" him. 12/6/2005 1:32:12 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
With that top 7, I say we go after him because he is the real deal. It has been rumored all year that one or more of our running backs will transfer. Reggie Davis is a senior next year and I think Darrell goes to WR so why not get more backs? 12/6/2005 1:33:54 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Along with having close ties to Cignetti, his older brother was also one of Marcus Stone's main WRs.
However, I wouldn't choose us if I were him. 12/6/2005 1:36:19 PM |
wolfAApack All American 9980 Posts user info edit post |
What is all of this talk of Blackman moving to wideout? Has he said something about it or is this just speculation? 12/6/2005 1:45:47 PM |
State409c Suspended 19558 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i believe they are family friends with with the cignetti's as well. I would say we have a legit shot. And say all you want about how we already have RB's...you always take a 5 star player at any position regardless of whether or not you "need" him." |
This might be the old conventional line of thought but it helped us a shit ton this year with our stable of backs and wondeful line that could block for them right?
We don't gain anything if we get this guy because we still can't block for him. We can't move around players we have to accomodate for yet another great player and expect to take a step forward. It really doesn't make any sense to maintain the "we'll take any 5 star any time".
Had any two of our running backs been great OLs, how different would this season have been? It wouldn't have mattered if Davis or Stone was back there, we could have made something work for us.
THEN, we could have went after this guy this year or a Josh Adams, and be positioned in 2 years to keep the string of a quality run game going.12/6/2005 1:47:28 PM |
jocristian All American 7527 Posts user info edit post |
errr.... why wouldnt you take a 5star running back in this case? Its not like if we got him, it would prevent us from getting any other good Oline recruits. In fact, if I were an O lineman, I would go to the school that will make me look good i.e. the school with the most talented players on offense.
O line coaching is what keeps us from getting good O line recruits 12/6/2005 1:50:58 PM |
stoncuttr All American 2149 Posts user info edit post |
Is Josh Adams even projected as a RB? 12/6/2005 1:55:09 PM |
jmpack15 All American 4470 Posts user info edit post |
i believe he's bringin one of his big OL with him on the visit.
we have lineman redshirting this year. we'll be fine.
Adams wants to play RB, why wouldn't he? but he is open to the idea of playing elsewhere if thats where the team needs him.
I see him in the slot on the next level, maybe RB/DB.
[Edited on December 6, 2005 at 1:58 PM. Reason : x] 12/6/2005 1:57:00 PM |
machinencsu All American 2200 Posts user info edit post |
the fact that hes taking an official visit here is a good sign, to me that proves we have more than an outside shot at him 12/6/2005 2:01:34 PM |
wolfAApack All American 9980 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "What is all of this talk of Blackman moving to wideout? Has he said something about it or is this just speculation?" |
12/6/2005 2:04:34 PM |
machinencsu All American 2200 Posts user info edit post |
the last couple of games the only time he saw the field on offense was split out wide or in the slot........ the move makes sense to me 12/6/2005 2:08:00 PM |
phishbfm All American 4715 Posts user info edit post |
it only makes sense that he takes tramain's spot. With his hands, he would be a great option there. 12/6/2005 2:11:04 PM |
wolfAApack All American 9980 Posts user info edit post |
^^He came in when we were in shotgun 2 back and ran a few fakes.
He came in at tailback in every game for at least a few plays and got at least one carry, mostly blocking though or thrown to out of the backfield.
He came in at the slot in the MD game and when he was thrown to, it was a pick because he didnt know how to make a play on the ball...really wasnt that bad of a throw.
I dont see him moving....but I also didnt see BW moving to safety. Whatever...I just doubt he would be much of a deep threat so I dont know how effective he will be.
He should NOT take Tramain's spot. He's not nearly that fast...at least top speed wise. If we get that kid Lamarcus Bond...isnt he like 5'10" and fast as shit?...and State is HIGH on his list? He would take tramain's spot.
[Edited on December 6, 2005 at 2:18 PM. Reason : ] 12/6/2005 2:16:13 PM |
socrates Suspended 1964 Posts user info edit post |
dont give him tramains spot. we do want him to see the ball every now and then 12/6/2005 2:21:00 PM |
jmpack15 All American 4470 Posts user info edit post |
Adams/Bond would take Tramain's spot if they decide to come to State. But they would probably both redshirt and Blackman/Eugene/JC Neal would play the slot for a year.
State is extremely high on Bond's list and although Adams won't spit out a top list of schools, I know State is high up there with Adams as well.
Josh reminds me a lot of Chris Barclay at Wake, Josh is a little taller though. Adams is about 5'11 175, I think Bond is like 5'10 165... both are fast. Josh is more quick than fast... not sure about Bond. Both of them look awesome on video. 12/6/2005 2:24:13 PM |
Panthro All American 7333 Posts user info edit post |
isnt 26736895 running backs over the max amount ? 12/6/2005 2:28:16 PM |
wolfAApack All American 9980 Posts user info edit post |
RB in high school doesnt always translate to RB in college. They're usually just the best athletes. Tramain was a RB in high school wasnt he? Hell, Mario Williams averaged like 10 yards a carry as a RB. 12/6/2005 2:38:55 PM |
bumpintahoe All American 2077 Posts user info edit post |
WE WILL NOT BE GOOD AT FOOTBALL NEXT SEASON 12/6/2005 2:43:59 PM |
bamancsu Veteran 429 Posts user info edit post |
info on mccoy- grades are a huge ? , recovering from broken ankle 12/6/2005 3:02:36 PM |
Lutz All American 1102 Posts user info edit post |
Chuck needs to visit wisconsin and get some fat cheese eating o-line men 12/6/2005 3:03:34 PM |
jmpack15 All American 4470 Posts user info edit post |
We'll be better than 6-5 next year. Especially if we have Brent Schaeffer. 12/6/2005 3:07:39 PM |
bamancsu Veteran 429 Posts user info edit post |
just hope tebow goes to fla. , if so then brent will be either ole miss/state bound. 12/6/2005 3:11:40 PM |
wolfAApack All American 9980 Posts user info edit post |
^^we will not have him
^^^I was just looking at our roster, I dont know why. But we have some really fat mother fuckers that are freshman and RS Freshman.
76 Curtis Crouch 6-5 354 Offensive Line FR 67 Jeraill McCuller 6-7 342 Offensive Line FR 61 Julian Williams 6-5 311 Offensive Line FR 61 Matthew White 6-7 357 Offensive Tackle RS FR
FUCK BC's O-line
[Edited on December 6, 2005 at 3:15 PM. Reason : ] 12/6/2005 3:14:21 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Crouch actually has been playing if i can remember correctly so there goes his redshirt prolly. I thought we got a good JC transfer in Garrett Kline and he didnt even see the field. 12/6/2005 3:17:05 PM |
bamancsu Veteran 429 Posts user info edit post |
he still has 2 years to play. 12/6/2005 3:20:29 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
why cant yall see that Chuck is obviously settin up for a huge year 2 or 3 years from now...all these freshmen and huge recruits....and they are all around the same age...its building up a possible big time crew. 12/6/2005 3:21:23 PM |
dre018 Veteran 367 Posts user info edit post |
what happened to the Tenn transfer Brandon Jefferies? 12/6/2005 3:22:52 PM |
bamancsu Veteran 429 Posts user info edit post |
by "huge" recruits you mean big right? definitely not huge in the sense of "big-time" 12/6/2005 3:23:06 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
both
we have some of the highest scouted guys in the country, and if you dont know that you need to go back and look at our team. 12/6/2005 3:23:51 PM |
bamancsu Veteran 429 Posts user info edit post |
maybe a couple but our recruiting isn't among the top programs in the country but its getting better. 12/6/2005 3:25:36 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "why cant yall see that Chuck is obviously settin up for a huge year 2 or 3 years from now...all these freshmen and huge recruits....and they are all around the same age...its building up a possible big time crew." |
I'm glad our coach goes for big seasons every couple years. It's good to know so I won't be dissappointed during the bad years.12/6/2005 3:31:55 PM |
jmpack15 All American 4470 Posts user info edit post |
UT screwed Jeffries over and he could never get his grades right, I don't know where he's at now... probably ECU.
People wonder why we're redshirting so many OLinemen this year when we have needed help, its because you much rather have a 5th year guy playing the line than a True-Freshman. The line is won by strength and experience. We'll be fine. The pieces to the puzzle are coming together, sooner or damn later we're gonna have a bigtime season when things just fall in place.
IF Blackman had not dropped that punt, IF we wouldnt of had those personal fouls... We could have beat VT and this season could have turned out COMPLETELY different. IF's don't win games, but they do provide some hope for the future. We're close, very close. 12/6/2005 3:35:31 PM |
stoncuttr All American 2149 Posts user info edit post |
Our OL will be improved next season 12/6/2005 3:37:36 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
Indeed, i say give us 2 years and we should be something else, all of our offense is fairly young, our secondary is extremely young, and D line is really the only thing thats gonna be gone cuz its older...but in 2 years i say we have the best season we have ever had. 12/6/2005 3:38:50 PM |
markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "D line is really the only thing thats gonna be gone cuz its older" |
Big "only thing".12/6/2005 3:43:31 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
we have some guys coming in and in the system now that are supposingly as good as mario in his early years....not to mention some guys playing now that arent too shabby that are really young. 12/6/2005 3:46:13 PM |
Toms House All American 4464 Posts user info edit post |
I wish we'd start recruiting more linemen. It takes a couple of years to build quality depth on the line and our current strategy seems to be to wait till a D lineman's junior or senior year and move him over. 12/6/2005 3:49:09 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "we have some guys coming in and in the system now that are supposingly as good as mario in his early years" |
Mario was a 5-star DE coming out of high school. I think we've got nothing but 3-star DL on our team right now. Maybe one or two 4-star. Mario was TOP-NOTCH coming out of high school.12/6/2005 3:50:46 PM |
State409c Suspended 19558 Posts user info edit post |
I just get completely miffed by people making claims that go against recent history.
The only thing we improved on over 2 seasons this past two was getting penalties down and that took 1.5 seasons to get right.
To say in one post our OL will be improved, while the next guy is saying our OL won't get better until we get a better coach, AND to say we'll take another stud running back despite proving this year it didn't help us
is just one big clusterfuck of "don't know what the hell you/we are talking about." 12/6/2005 3:57:26 PM |
stoncuttr All American 2149 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I wish we'd start recruiting more linemen. It takes a couple of years to build quality depth on the line and our current strategy seems to be to wait till a D lineman's junior or senior year and move him over." |
2005 Andy Barbee OL 6-4 290 Shelby, N.C. Crest Curtis Crouch OL 6-6 320 Fayetteville, N.C. E. E. Smith Brandon Jeffries OL 6-5 313 Shelby, N.C. Crest/University of Tennessee (NOT ON TEAM) Garrett Kline OL 6-7 315 Hawley, Pa. Wallenpaupack/Lackawanna JC Jeraill McCuller OL 6-7 330 Chesapeake, Va. Atlantic Shores Christian Doug Palmer OL 6-3 290 Fayetteville, N.C. Douglas Byrd Julian Williams OL 6-4 290 New Bern, N.C. New Bern
Quote : | "Mario was a 5-star DE coming out of high school." |
Actually Mario was a 4-star, #4 DE in the country http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=178&p=9&c=8&yr=200312/6/2005 4:02:10 PM |
ncwolfpack31 All American 968 Posts user info edit post |
Mario was also a 4 stars according to Rivals.com
That year's class finished #9 in the nation according to scout and #7 according to rivals so that shows we can recruit with the big boys. We just have to do it more consistently. 12/6/2005 4:04:15 PM |
hondaguy All American 6409 Posts user info edit post |
even then, recruiting isn't everything. You need to be able to coach the guys. Look at Tenn. 12/6/2005 4:21:03 PM |
dre018 Veteran 367 Posts user info edit post |
well for anyone who is interested I found out where UT transfer Brandon Jefferies ended up....
http://newberryindians.athleticsite.com/profile.asp?playerID=690 12/6/2005 4:31:26 PM |