packfootball All American 1717 Posts user info edit post |
The best two players in college bball are white, JJ and Adam Morrison. Cold day in hell. 12/9/2005 2:09:18 AM |
SipnOnSyzurp All American 8923 Posts user info edit post |
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Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
raise your hand if you think redick will be successful in the nba 12/9/2005 2:23:12 AM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
define successful
like michael jordan successful or christian laettner successful? 12/9/2005 2:25:22 AM |
jprince11 All American 14181 Posts user info edit post |
reddick will last 3 yrs in the league tops
and don't give me this steve kerr nonsense; kerr was an incredible college point guard, not an undersized two 12/9/2005 2:26:18 AM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
maybe wojohowski will retire and redick will take his spot 12/9/2005 2:28:09 AM |
phongstar All American 617 Posts user info edit post |
maybe if he worked on his passing game. 12/9/2005 2:31:54 AM |
packfootball All American 1717 Posts user info edit post |
i said in college bball 12/9/2005 2:31:58 AM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
he sure can shoot a free throw though, you gotta admit... 12/9/2005 2:32:46 AM |
packfootball All American 1717 Posts user info edit post |
i think he means successful like bobby hurley 12/9/2005 2:32:56 AM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
didnt bobby hurley play like 2 years in the nba? 12/9/2005 2:34:52 AM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
exactly his point
Redick sucks he can just shoot, kid looks nervous and lost when he puts it on the floor to drive. adam is 2 small. he wont do well in the NBA because theres no way hes gonna be a rebounder like he is now, maybe a SF but he would really have to work on his power game.
and if u ask me, Foye, Tucker, Brown and S. Williams are much better at this point. 12/9/2005 2:38:13 AM |
packfootball All American 1717 Posts user info edit post |
exactly 12/9/2005 2:38:22 AM |
TKEshultz All American 7327 Posts user info edit post |
yea, thanks to a car accident
but lets not kid ourselves, jj will be good in the nba 12/9/2005 2:38:55 AM |
packfootball All American 1717 Posts user info edit post |
^good at what? 12/9/2005 2:46:46 AM |
killpups All American 945 Posts user info edit post |
^Good at stretching defenses on good teams. Teams with either a good big man and/or a good point guard will benefit from having JJ on the team. JJ's got a quick release, range that extends well behind the three-point line, and is starting to show at least something off the dribble.
I'm not saying he'll be an all-star. Hell, I'm not so sure he'll be a starter. But he'll be someone to use in specific situations and he'll DEFINITELY last longer than jpcocksuckers three years. 12/9/2005 2:54:09 AM |
packfootball All American 1717 Posts user info edit post |
people that forecast how good college atheletes will be at the professional level base their predictions on what the athletes are able to do on the college level. Im pretty sure everybody here realizes that the jump between college sports and professional sports is just as big of a jump as high school to college, so it is almost impossible to tell. That is why I didn't make a thread about how great JJ and Morrison will be in the NBA. I just wanted everybody to recognize that we have some great white basketball players in the NCAA. 12/9/2005 3:07:38 AM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
Hurley was productive as a backup for the Kings for at least a season or two.
I think Redick will do alright in the NBA.
He's a borderline lottery pick. This may be the weakest draft class ever anyway and theres no HS players in it. One things for sure, he'll get infinitely more minutes than Julius Hodge gets as a rookie....
he needs to go to a team that has guys who can get him open looks, but he can put the ball on the floor and he shoudln't have THAT much trouble getting his shot off b/c he has a quick release.
I dont think he's a total bust, although his style is much more suited for European ball.... I dont see him ever becoming a starter, but he could develop into a Dell Curry/Dale Ellis type role player...
they should put him on the Olympic team, rather than a guy like Richard Jefferson who brings nothing to the table against a zone defense.
[Edited on December 9, 2005 at 3:18 AM. Reason : a] 12/9/2005 3:08:37 AM |
socrates Suspended 1964 Posts user info edit post |
lol nash is the mvp. jj is mvp white teams beat us in the olympics. lol 12/9/2005 3:25:53 AM |
ballinlb All American 1412 Posts user info edit post |
redick is the next rex chapman 12/9/2005 3:59:26 AM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
^ shooting comparison, valid
athletic comparison, not
Rex was a total freak athletically and I still dont believe he was actually "white"
He did date a black girl while he was at Kentucky so that fuels the fire. 12/9/2005 6:34:34 AM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
redick is to shooting as John Stockton was to passing
the only real thing he is good at 12/9/2005 6:48:55 AM |
OuiJamn All American 5766 Posts user info edit post |
Redick will be good in the NBA... unless he gets injured 12/9/2005 8:19:35 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Redick sucks he can just shoot, kid looks nervous and lost when he puts it on the floor to drive." |
He has actually improved his game A LOT since 2 years ago. He is pretty succesful at going to the hole now in college. Of course most guys he'll match up with in the NBA will be WAY more athletic and quicker. Even in the rare chance he could beat them off the dribble he won't get the ticky tack fouls called against the D in the NBA. He'll be a pure spot up shooter in the next level.
If you look at his numbers he still isn't in the very top in FG or 3PT % and never has been. Of course he probably takes more difficult shots then anyone in college but I'm not sure if is a legitimate excuse or not..
So far this year Redick is 44.2% from 3. 35 3PT Attempts is the cutoff right now to be included on ESPNs page and he is 50th in 3PT%.
[Edited on December 9, 2005 at 8:23 AM. Reason : f]12/9/2005 8:22:48 AM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
Maybe this thread should be called the "Most talked about players in college basketball are white". 12/9/2005 12:27:44 PM |
Dammit100 All American 17605 Posts user info edit post |
no discussion of "whos the best in college bb" can exclude Rudy Gay 12/9/2005 12:30:34 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
He is by far the most talented player in college. He isn't near the best... YET.
By the end of the year I think he will be though..
p.s.- did anyone see the dunk last night. It looked like he was literally walking in the air..
[Edited on December 9, 2005 at 12:31 PM. Reason : f] 12/9/2005 12:31:11 PM |
Dammit100 All American 17605 Posts user info edit post |
^yes, that shit was absurd 12/9/2005 12:39:17 PM |
Hoggman187 All American 960 Posts user info edit post |
I love when people hate a player because hes good (enter JJ Redick) and then knock him by saying, he wont be good in the pros. Very insightful. I love how good Julius is turning out....... 12/9/2005 12:59:06 PM |
Dammit100 All American 17605 Posts user info edit post |
^well, I was never on the Hodge bandwagon. I knew he wouldn't do shit in the pros. 12/9/2005 1:02:47 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
I know he is a great college player. I hate him because he is a fucking cocky prick who always chokes in the NCAA Tourney. He won't be a great pro. I'm not sure how giving an opinion on someone is 'hating' him. He is undersized, not terribly athletic, and won't be able to create his own shot in an athetlic league like the NBA.
He will be a spot up shooter.. on what level remains to be seen..
[Edited on December 9, 2005 at 1:04 PM. Reason : f] 12/9/2005 1:03:53 PM |
cali_j2004 All American 3724 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "raise your hand if you think redick will be successful in care about the nba" |
12/9/2005 2:16:29 PM |
jmpack15 All American 4470 Posts user info edit post |
and that's why ivy league schools win the ncaa championship every year. 12/9/2005 2:17:37 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
All of the black kids that would be in college already are in the NBA...Carmelo, Lebron, Marvin Williams and etc. 12/9/2005 2:27:35 PM |
CharlieEFH All American 21806 Posts user info edit post |
no team in the nba will revolve their offense around jj running around the arc while the rest of the offense rebounds the ball and passes it to him 12/9/2005 3:10:21 PM |
Dammit100 All American 17605 Posts user info edit post |
exactly... he's a white Allan Houston 12/9/2005 3:56:21 PM |
Quinn All American 16417 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "they should put him on the Olympic team, rather than a guy like Richard Jefferson who brings nothing to the table against a zone defense." |
100% correct12/9/2005 4:27:53 PM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
i absolutely despise redick, but i'll now admit that he'll probably do alright in the nba. not a star, because teams won't set 4 picks on one possession for him to get a crappy look, but someone that can be subbed in to spark the offense. he's still a cocksucker though 12/9/2005 4:44:47 PM |
Kodiak All American 7067 Posts user info edit post |
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screentest All American 1955 Posts user info edit post |
Redick productive in the nba?
paging Trajon Langdon... 12/9/2005 6:58:31 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
no team in the nba will revolve their offense around jj running around the arc while the rest of the offense rebounds the ball and passes it to him 12/9/2005 7:35:48 PM |
ncsu1128 Veteran 227 Posts user info edit post |
nobody has mentioned fazekas from nevada...he is just as good as morrison 12/10/2005 12:16:38 AM |
Dammit100 All American 17605 Posts user info edit post |
riiiiight 12/10/2005 12:27:52 AM |
packfootball All American 1717 Posts user info edit post |
^^hahahahaha 12/10/2005 2:34:34 AM |
ballinlb All American 1412 Posts user info edit post |
^^^
i wouldnt say he's as good as morrison, but hes definitely very good 12/10/2005 3:21:05 AM |
jblee All American 1275 Posts user info edit post |
JJ got no athleticism. He won't be 1 b/c he can't pass. He will be at 2. Look at who's playing at 2 position in NBA. Kobe, Tmac, Wade, Richardson.... name any... and see if he can guard any of them. 12/10/2005 10:36:19 AM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
it would be funny to see redick guard tmac, that's for sure. 12/10/2005 11:30:10 AM |
prep-e All American 4843 Posts user info edit post |
i would love to see what lebron would've done in the ncaa.
i guess it's better that he didn't since he probably would've played for unc. 12/10/2005 11:55:28 AM |
Panthro All American 7333 Posts user info edit post |
there will always be a place for great shooters on a team, on any level of basketball, even more in the pros now than ever with the implementation of the zone defense.
Players such Damon Jones, Danny Ferry, Corrie Hodges, etc have/are making a living in the NBA of of doing just that, stretching the defense and basically doing nothing else, not even defense.
Redick will have a successful shelf life in the NBA, especially on a team with a dominant big man or someone who is constantly double teamed (Ferry played w/duncan & Robinson, D. Jones with Shaq and now with LeBron, and of course, Hodges had Michael Jordan). 12/10/2005 3:18:15 PM |
lafta All American 14880 Posts user info edit post |
reddick is potentially the nex larry 12/10/2005 3:26:52 PM |