DirtyGreek All American 29309 Posts user info edit post |
Ok, I know this will inevitably turn into a debate, but I'm going to pretend I don't know that so that I can ask these questions. If possible, PLEASE try and stay as neutral as possible here and just answer the questions for me, ok? And try not to attack people based on their answers. I'm going to do the same.. I REALLY am serious in asking these questions, ok? I'm seriously not poking fun. I'd like this to be as scientific as possible. The questions are based on statements I've seen online and on the news in the last few months.
1.) Would you identify yourself as: a.) Christian b.) Other faith, but religious c.) Atheist d.) Agnostic e.) Other (please describe)
2.) Do you believe there is a "war" being waged against Christmas?
3.) If yes, do you think this "war" is being waged by a.) The secular left b.) The liberal media c.) George Soros d.) Commercial Interests e.) all of the above f.) other (please describe)
4.) Are you offended by the phrase "happy holidays?" If so, why?
5.) What does "happy holidays" mean to you? a.) A secular replacement for "merry christmas," used by those who are trying to undermine Christianity's influence b.) Happy Thanksgiving, Merry Christmas, and Happy New Year, Happy Channukah c.) Politically correct way of greeting people of whose faiths you're unsure
6.) Do you watch tv "pundit" shows such as O'reilly, Hannity and Colmes, Hardball, etc? Which ones do you enjoy the most? How often do you watch them?
Again, try to be serious and courteous.
[Edited on December 13, 2005 at 12:53 PM. Reason : ,]
[Edited on December 13, 2005 at 1:03 PM. Reason : .] 12/13/2005 12:51:05 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
1) a - Roman Catholic
2) haha NO!
3) n/a
4) Uh, no. Why would I be?
5) b
6) I like O'Reilly and I watch him 2-3 times a week. (not to say I agree with everything he says but he is my favorite to watch). 12/13/2005 12:53:56 PM |
ParksNrec All American 8742 Posts user info edit post |
1 a 2 no 3 see above 4 no 5 b 6 no, I would rather roast in hell. 12/13/2005 12:54:48 PM |
JSnail All American 4844 Posts user info edit post |
1. A 2. no 3. n/a 4. nope 5. B (you forgot Happy Channukah!) 6. that's a big NO 12/13/2005 1:00:04 PM |
DirtyGreek All American 29309 Posts user info edit post |
I meant to put Happy Channukah in there. Thanks 12/13/2005 1:03:51 PM |
JSnail All American 4844 Posts user info edit post |
no prob I'm half Jewish, so that's why I thought of it 12/13/2005 1:04:29 PM |
firmbuttgntl Suspended 11931 Posts user info edit post |
A war against christmass, this is redudant liberal horsecrap. 12/13/2005 1:11:24 PM |
NCSUAli All American 2554 Posts user info edit post |
1. B 2. no 3. n/a 4. no 5. B 6. No, not regularly, although I'll watch various programs every once in a while. 12/13/2005 1:13:12 PM |
firmbuttgntl Suspended 11931 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I'd like this to be as scientific as possible." |
But, wait you gatherd this from the newws, and the internet?12/13/2005 1:16:22 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
could you please make your questions more biased?
thnx 12/13/2005 1:19:02 PM |
tracer All American 13876 Posts user info edit post |
1. A 2. no 3. n/a 4. no 5. C 6. no 12/13/2005 1:20:22 PM |
pinkpanther All American 7465 Posts user info edit post |
1. a 2. nope 3. santa claus 4. no, thats just stupid. 5. b or c 6. no 12/13/2005 1:21:37 PM |
Wolfpack2K All American 7059 Posts user info edit post |
1. A 2. Yes 3. A through C 4. Yes 5. A 6. No. 12/13/2005 1:21:57 PM |
spookyjon All American 21682 Posts user info edit post |
1) d 2) no 3) 4) no 5) c 6) no 12/13/2005 1:23:22 PM |
rudeboy All American 3049 Posts user info edit post |
i want to hear someone's opinion who answers yes to question 2. i think it's ridiculous. 12/13/2005 1:23:41 PM |
Wolfpack2K All American 7059 Posts user info edit post |
Start another thread. This is for survey responses only. 12/13/2005 1:24:11 PM |
firmbuttgntl Suspended 11931 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "3.) If yes, do you think this "war" is being waged by
a.) The secular left b.) The liberal media c.) George Soros d.) Commercial Interests e.) all of the above f.) other (please describe) " |
hahaha all of the above. WAIT YOU LEFT OUT THE OPTION FOR SANTA CLAUSE, WHAT'S HIS SAY IN THIS?12/13/2005 1:25:05 PM |
Wolfpack2K All American 7059 Posts user info edit post |
Santa Claus (not clause.. this is not a legal document) would fall under commercial interests. 12/13/2005 1:28:11 PM |
Mindstorm All American 15858 Posts user info edit post |
1.) Would you identify yourself as:
a.) Christian (non-denominational)
2.) Do you believe there is a "war" being waged against Christmas?
Not really. More like christmas has lost its meaning with many people.
3.) N/A
4.) Are you offended by the phrase "happy holidays?" If so, why?
Haha, not really, but I'd rather that people I know (who know me) say "Merry Christmas!" to me instead of "Happy Holidays!" If you know what they celebrate, at least wish them a happy chanukkah, a happy kwanza (who celebrates this? moving along), or a merry christmas. Save "Happy Holidays" for the people that you don't know.
5.) What does "happy holidays" mean to you?
I associate "happy holidays" more with the commercial side of the season. Used as a neutral phrase to avoid angering people who get offended by being wished the wrong holiday. It always seems to be used more with the sales and advertisements during Christmas season, so I associate it with the commercial side of the season (not to be redundant, just explaining the view).
(P.S. This should go under nonexistant option d.) other)
6.) Do you watch tv "pundit" shows such as O'reilly, Hannity and Colmes, Hardball, etc? Which ones do you enjoy the most? How often do you watch them?
No. They all suck. 12/13/2005 1:32:19 PM |
firmbuttgntl Suspended 11931 Posts user info edit post |
You put santa under commercial; then, you can stick the rest in as well. This is specifics!!! We must have details! 12/13/2005 1:39:19 PM |
spookyjon All American 21682 Posts user info edit post |
Ahahahahahaha wolfpack2k answered yes to 2. 12/13/2005 1:51:59 PM |
ShawnaC123 2019 Egg Champ 46681 Posts user info edit post |
1. c 2. no 3. n/a 4. no 5. b 6. no 12/13/2005 1:59:51 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
1- D 2- No 3- // 4- No 5- C 6- No 12/13/2005 2:01:51 PM |
ambrosia1231 eeeeeeeeeevil 76471 Posts user info edit post |
1. a 2. no 3. - 4. no 5. c 6. no 12/13/2005 2:03:37 PM |
Vet2B All American 4038 Posts user info edit post |
1.) Would you identify yourself as: a.) Christian
2.) Do you believe there is a "war" being waged against Christmas? yes
3.) If yes, do you think this "war" is being waged by a.) The secular left b.) The liberal media d.) Commercial Interests
4.) Are you offended by the phrase "happy holidays?" If so, why? Not offended but it's just so bland, so general, so blah.
5.) What does "happy holidays" mean to you? b.) Happy Thanksgiving, Merry Christmas, and Happy New Year, Happy Channukah
6.) Do you watch tv "pundit" shows such as O'reilly, Hannity and Colmes, Hardball, etc? Which ones do you enjoy the most? How often do you watch them? Never seen them. 12/13/2005 2:03:49 PM |
chembob Yankee Cowboy 27011 Posts user info edit post |
1. a 2. no 3. - 4. no 5. in between a and c 6. no 12/13/2005 2:05:09 PM |
Turnip All American 5426 Posts user info edit post |
1. D 2. No 3. 4. No 5. b 6. no 12/13/2005 2:05:33 PM |
Gamecat All American 17913 Posts user info edit post |
1.) Would you identify yourself as: d.) Agnostic
2.) Do you believe there is a "war" being waged against Christmas? No.
4.) Are you offended by the phrase "happy holidays?" No.
I'm not offended by the phrase Merry Christmas either.
5.) What does "happy holidays" mean to you?
b.) Happy Thanksgiving, Merry Christmas, and Happy New Year, Happy Channukah
-&-
c.) Politically correct way of greeting people of whose faiths you're unsure
The two shouldn't be mutually exclusive.
6.) Do you watch tv "pundit" shows such as O'reilly, Hannity and Colmes, Hardball, etc?
Yes.
Which ones do you enjoy the most?
Hardball and Countdown.
How often do you watch them?
Occasionally. 12/13/2005 2:16:02 PM |
Lokken All American 13361 Posts user info edit post |
1 b 2 no 3 if anything the over-pc crowd that likes defending anything that isnt the majority. 4 no 5 PC way of saying Merry Christmas 6 no 12/13/2005 3:14:03 PM |
markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit post |
1) A 2) No (commercial interests are trying to make a buck off Christmas, but aren't at war with it) 3) N/A 4) No 5) b (I'll usually say Merry Christmas for Christmas, but occasionally may wish a Happy Holidays if I won't see someone for Christmas and New Years) 6) Sometimes, none consistently, probably Hardball more than the others
Random Christmas tidbit: X was the greek "chi", and was used as an early symbol for Christ. So in fact, Xmas doesn't X the "Christ" out of Christmas. 12/13/2005 3:25:12 PM |
ru1dt Starting Lineup 86 Posts user info edit post |
1.) Would you identify yourself as: e) Other - I consider myself kind of a "metaphorist." Any religion if you recognize the various features as metaphors for the human experience and follow the "golden rule" (which most organized religions preach but rarely practice)
2.) Do you believe there is a "war" being waged against Christmas? No.
2b.) Do you believe some fundamentalists believe a war is being waged against Christians by generally considerate, open minded secular humanists with intentions of staving off a neo-Crusade? Yes.
4.) Are you offended by the phrase "happy holidays?" Yes, how dare someone try to wish me joy on a pagan solstice celebration appropriated for the birth of Jesus. Bastards.
5.) What does "happy holidays" mean to you?
Quote : | "b.) Happy Thanksgiving, Merry Christmas, and Happy New Year, Happy Channukah
-&-
c.) Politically correct way of greeting people of whose faiths you're unsure
The two shouldn't be mutually exclusive." |
6.) Do you watch tv "pundit" shows such as O'reilly, Hannity and Colmes, Hardball, etc?
Yes, The Daily Show, Fox News.
Which ones do you enjoy the most?
It's all good...or bad.
How often do you watch them?
Occasionally.
7.) How often do you read the Periodic Table of the Elements? Periodically
8.) How often do you read the Bible? I read it religiously.
[Edited on December 13, 2005 at 3:38 PM. Reason : nothing like a good edit]12/13/2005 3:36:08 PM |
Protostar All American 3495 Posts user info edit post |
1.) C.Atheist
2.) No
3.) N/a
4.)no
5.)Nothing
6).Don't watch TV. 12/13/2005 3:42:08 PM |
elkaybie All American 39626 Posts user info edit post |
1.) e.) Other--interdenominational
2.) i wouldn't call it a "war" but i understand the "battle"
3.) f--please to read Privelege, Power and Difference...i'd suppose my answer would be liberal once you got down to the nitty gritty...but after reading that book i understand the reasoning behind arguments such as the "Merry Christmas" one, though i may not agree with them personally. (note: i hated reading this book b/c i thought it to be too extreme for my taste, but i appreciate it cause i came to an understanding when i finished.)
4.) no
5.) b- plus happy kwanzaa
6.) hell fucking no
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DirtyGreek All American 29309 Posts user info edit post |
thank you to most of you. great answers so far. keep 'em coming! 12/13/2005 4:30:15 PM |
mrfrog ☯ 15145 Posts user info edit post |
1.) Would you identify yourself as:
a.) Christian b.) Other faith, but religious c.) Atheist d.) Agnostic e.) Other (please describe)
2.) No. only inasmuch as dissagreeing with someone is waging a war aginst them. sheesh.
3.) If yes, do you think this "war" is being waged by
a.) The secular left b.) The liberal media c.) George Soros d.) Commercial Interests e.) all of the above f.) other (please describe) it's clearly the jews
4.) no
5.)
a.) A secular replacement for "merry christmas," used by those who are trying to undermine Christianity's influence b.) Happy Thanksgiving, Merry Christmas, and Happy New Year, Happy Channukah c.) Politically correct way of greeting people of whose faiths you're unsure it's american goddamit.
6.) i don't watch much TV 12/13/2005 5:13:46 PM |
1337 b4k4 All American 10033 Posts user info edit post |
1) d
2) yes, not so much a war as an obnoxious battle
3) f, bored over sensative people with nothing else to do with their miserable lives than to make everyone else miserable.
4) no
5) b
6 no 12/13/2005 5:57:01 PM |
scottncst8 All American 2318 Posts user info edit post |
1.) Would you identify yourself as:
d.) Agnostic
2.) Do you believe there is a "war" being waged against Christmas?
no
3.) If yes, do you think this "war" is being waged by
4.) Are you offended by the phrase "happy holidays?" If so, why?
no
5.) What does "happy holidays" mean to you?
d) it means we are near a government recognized non-denominational holiday
6.) Do you watch tv "pundit" shows such as O'reilly, Hannity and Colmes, Hardball, etc? Which ones do you enjoy the most? How often do you watch them?
no
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xvang All American 3468 Posts user info edit post |
1. a 2. No 3. N/A 4. No 5. b 6. No 7. Sure, why not 12/13/2005 6:34:08 PM |
Kelly4NCSt8 All American 1115 Posts user info edit post |
1. a 2. in a sense, yes 3. b and d 4. not offended, just dislike the attempt to make a religious holiday become a non-religious one 5. c 6. yes, occasionally. O'Reilly 12/13/2005 6:39:48 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
1. c 2. hell no 3. na 4. no 5. b. it has no religious meaning, actually. 6. yes, because my IQ is 3 and I hate myself 12/13/2005 6:45:16 PM |
pablo_price All American 5628 Posts user info edit post |
1.) Would you identify yourself as: d.) Agnostic
2.) Do you believe there is a "war" being waged against Christmas? hahaha, no
4.) Are you offended by the phrase "happy holidays?" If so, why? not at all
5.) What does "happy holidays" mean to you? b.) Happy Thanksgiving, Merry Christmas, and Happy New Year, Happy Channukah
6.) Do you watch tv "pundit" shows such as O'reilly, Hannity and Colmes, Hardball, etc? Which ones do you enjoy the most? How often do you watch them? I see O'Reiily occasionally when I'm staying with my parents. I usually get a chuckle at how he fights meaningless battles and treats his guests like shit. 12/13/2005 6:45:22 PM |
LadyWolff All American 2286 Posts user info edit post |
1.) Would you identify yourself as:
b.) Other faith, but religious
2.) Do you believe there is a "war" being waged against Christmas?' Not by any stretch of the imagination.
3.) If yes, do you think this "war" is being waged by N/A
4.) Are you offended by the phrase "happy holidays?" If so, why? Nope.
5.) What does "happy holidays" mean to you?
b.) Happy Thanksgiving, Merry Christmas, and Happy New Year, Happy Channukah and Merry Yule as well I might add.
I suppose it's a little PC, but not to an extreeme degree. It's well wishing people. C'mon.
6.) Do you watch tv "pundit" shows such as O'reilly, Hannity and Colmes, Hardball, etc? Which ones do you enjoy the most? How often do you watch them? Nope, i dont watch tv really. Dont have the time. Sometimes I do watch the Daily show though. 12/13/2005 6:45:22 PM |
PinkandBlack Suspended 10517 Posts user info edit post |
1.) Would you identify yourself as:
a.) Christian b.) Other faith, but religious c.) Atheist d.) Agnostic e.) Other (please describe)
2.) Do you believe there is a "war" being waged against Christmas? more like a war being waged against people who dont agree with those who beleive there is a war being waged against christmas. in short: its mostly the same people who think Canada is evil, so I dont pay them much attention. 3.) If yes, do you think this "war" is being waged by
a.) The secular left b.) The liberal media c.) George Soros d.) Commercial Interests e.) all of the above f.) other (please describe) the war really only exists to people like Fallwell who are just overreacting and/or fearmongering
4.) Are you offended by the phrase "happy holidays?" If so, why? no 5.) What does "happy holidays" mean to you?
a.) A secular replacement for "merry christmas," used by those who are trying to undermine Christianity's influence b.) Happy Thanksgiving, Merry Christmas, and Happy New Year, Happy Channukah you forgot Boxing Day c.) Politically correct way of greeting people of whose faiths you're unsure
6.) Do you watch tv "pundit" shows such as O'reilly, Hannity and Colmes, Hardball, etc? Which ones do you enjoy the most? How often do you watch them?
only if i want a laugh, then ill tune in savage.
One question I would add: if you answered "yes" for two, would you still say this even if pundits and televangelists weren't talking about it so much?
[Edited on December 13, 2005 at 6:56 PM. Reason : .] 12/13/2005 6:51:08 PM |
AttackLax All American 2304 Posts user info edit post |
1. a 2. no 3. n/a 4. no 5. b 6. Daily Show every night
[Edited on December 13, 2005 at 7:01 PM. Reason : DS] 12/13/2005 7:01:27 PM |
quiet guy Suspended 3020 Posts user info edit post |
d no people who use fake wars to create new ones i'm about as offended of it as any other empty phrase retailers tell me b I watch TDS 12/13/2005 8:45:41 PM |
JSteen All American 524 Posts user info edit post |
a, no, n/a, no, c, no 12/13/2005 10:11:08 PM |
ncsukat All American 1896 Posts user info edit post |
1- d (raised Baptist... not getting into it here... agnostic is the best description of me I suppose) 2- no 3- n/a 4- nope 5- c (it encompasses all holidays celebrated during this holiday season when most religions have an important and celebrated holiday... I find it to be quite fitting) 6- I've watched Hardball and O'reily maybe a handful of times altogether. Don't really have anything to say about them. (Hardball was a great book, though!) 12/13/2005 10:46:36 PM |
cyrion All American 27139 Posts user info edit post |
1.) d. agnostic
2.) no
3.) n/a
4.) no + i dont see how it is offensive. i can understand the opposition to an anti-christmas, but by no means could this phrase be construed as "offensive."
5.) b (partially c)
6.) o'reilly is great and i used to watch it daily. havent seen it in a while though. i find watching someone you completely disagree with a good way to catch up on some news at times (it wont encourage your biases without at least some tiny shred of questioning).
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DirtyGreek All American 29309 Posts user info edit post |
i do believe this might be the first successful thread of its kind, people. thank you. seriously, the more the merrier, so keep those answers coming! 12/14/2005 8:38:22 AM |
jdman the Dr is in 3848 Posts user info edit post |
1) C: atheist
2) No
3) N/A
4) No
5) C: PC way to greet someone whose faith I'm unsure of. I refuse to assume everyone is a Christian
6) Hell no. I used to work out at a gym (YMCA) that play Neil Cavuto's show on the in-house TV system while I was working out. It was awful - I would never watch one of those imbecelic shows again.
[Edited on December 14, 2005 at 8:51 AM. Reason : spelling] 12/14/2005 8:51:01 AM |