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J_Hova
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Troy Aikman*
Reggie White*
Thurman Thomas*
Warren Moon *

*1st year of egilibility

Rayfield Wright**
John Madden**

**Chosen by a special committee last August and went straight to the finals.

Derrick Thomas
Harry Carson
L.C. Greenwood
Claude Humphrey
Russ Grimm
Bob Kuechenberg
Gary Zimmerman
Michael Irvin
Art Monk***

*** Was the shit in Tecmo Bowl

1/11/2006 5:33:02 PM

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michael irvin?

didn't he just get busted for something like 3 months ago?

1/11/2006 5:34:05 PM

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Aikman Reggie and Michael Irvin

1/11/2006 5:34:36 PM

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greenwood and grimm

1/11/2006 5:36:47 PM

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he got caught for some weed shit... that won't keep him out.

and i don't know enough about most of those guys to make a real assessment of who should get in...

i'd bet on Madden and Reggie White at least, though

1/11/2006 5:41:14 PM

ncWOLFsu
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try coke

1/11/2006 5:41:56 PM

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please stop robbing harry carson

1/11/2006 5:47:48 PM

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Aikman will be in

1/11/2006 5:48:58 PM

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Oh boy, time for the annual Peter King and Dr. Z columns on why Art Monk doesn't deserve to get in.

1/11/2006 5:49:52 PM

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its a minimum of 3, max of 6 that can get it...I'll say

Aikman, White, Madden, and Irving

1/11/2006 5:50:46 PM

ncWOLFsu
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Julius Irving?

1/11/2006 5:52:50 PM

J_Hova
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doh o.O

1/11/2006 8:03:06 PM

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Art Monk!!!!! should be in.

1/11/2006 8:08:39 PM

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no fucking way Irvin gets in this year

1/11/2006 8:11:13 PM

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art monk's career, not so very different from irvin's... even better in some of those big statiscical categories

Receptions:
Monk - 940 (5th) NFL all-time rank in parentheses
Irvin - 750 (18th)

Rec Yards:
Monk - 12721 (9th)
Irvin - 11904 (14th)

Yards/Catch:
Monk - 13.5
Irvin - 15.9

Touchdowns:
Monk - 68 (29th)
Irvin - 65 (35th)

1000-yard Seasons:
Monk - 5
Irvin - 8 (huge difference)

The difference is, obviously, a little bit longevity, and the fact that Monk played in four more seasons than irvin. Monk's numbers are HOF-worthy, though, and he is clearly one of the top possession receivers of all time. It may have hurt monk's stats in that his receiving corps boasted two great speedburners in Gary Clark and Ricky Sanders. It also didn't help that Monk wasn't terribly fast.

Monk has as many rings as Irvin, though he didn't play in the 1983 Super Bowl.. just the previous playoff games. It does speak volumes of Monk as a receiver to boast such huge numbers over a career that included so many different quarterbacks: Irvin had one his entire ride... and one of the best of his generation.

But the guys at SI are blackballing Monk and he'll likely never get in. fuck it.

[Edited on January 12, 2006 at 12:52 AM. Reason : blah]

1/12/2006 12:51:18 AM

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Announced as the 2006 class for induction into the Pro Football Hall of Fame.


Troy Aikman
Harry Carson
John Madden
Warren Moon
Reggie White
Rayfield Wright

2/4/2006 2:43:49 PM

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great class

sad Reggie ain't here to see it

2/4/2006 2:47:07 PM

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Aside from the numbers ^^^ posted.. He was the first reciever to catch 100 passes in a single season. When he retired he was leading in all time receptions.



Oh, and you DON'T compare Monk to Irvin, they played in seperate eras. You compare Monk to other recievers in the years he played. Granted they where both in the league for like 3 years or something.. but that doesnt count.




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[Edited on February 4, 2006 at 2:50 PM. Reason : ^]

2/4/2006 2:47:41 PM

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Great class. Nice to see some love for madden finally. Gotta love 2 Cowboys going in too.

Oh and speaking as a Cowboys fan: Art Monk deserves to be in the hall of fame wayyy before Irvin. The fact that he is not in yet is rather sad in my book. If/when Irvin gets in, he better be in the same class or the one after Monk.

2/4/2006 3:02:21 PM

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wish i still had my Moon jersey

gg on becoming first black QB in the Hall

2/4/2006 3:05:21 PM

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I think I read an article by Dr. Z on SI that he's pushing for Harry Carson to get in. I guess mission accomplished.

2/4/2006 3:07:11 PM

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monk not being in is a disgrace, if anybody reads the daily czabe, they saw this (kinda long but makes the point if you're interested)

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"1. When Art Monk retired, he held the 1) Single Season Catch Record 2) The All-Time Career Catch Record 3) The Consecutive Games With a Catch Record. A veritable trifecta of excellence defining marks. No other wideout on this list (or any other list) ever RETIRED while holding all three of those belts.

2. Art Monk did not talk to the media. Hardly ever. And it wasn’t like a Sterling Sharpe vendetta, Monk was just plain media shy. And he won’t talk about the Hall of Fame now. Hell, I’ve tried several times. So a vote against Monk for the HOF, is a defacto admission by media members with the votes that they factor in what you did in front of the “pen and mic club” as part of their process.

3. A supposed “knock” on Monk is that he was merely a “possession receiver.” Yeah, who needs one of those? As a Redskin fan who watched every single one of his 940 catches, I can assure you that there was nothing more satisfying than knowing that on 3rd and 7, if Monk had half a step on his guy, the catch was GOING to be made. Period, amen. The man moved more chains in his career than an Alabama prison work crew, but I guess first downs don’t matter to some.

4. The mark of a true professional, is consistency. Anybody can be flashy for a short period of time. Anybody can have monster years off-set by mediocre ones. But Monk was the model of consistency. And some would have you believe this is a negative, not something to be exalted.

5. Art Monk won two Super Bowls and went to another. He did so with three different quarterbacks, none of whom is going to the Hall of Fame. Where I come from, that’s called being a “winner.”

In short, a vote against Art Monk for the HOF means a vote against…

1. Productivity
2. Longevity
3. Professionalism
4. Consistency
5. Modesty

Well now. Isn’t that a great set of criteria to tell young players today gets you absolutely NO credit from the so-called “media experts” in this day and age.

This year Michael Irvin will likely be forced to wait a year for his HOF induction. The following year, however, he seems like a lock. Boy won’t his induction speech be one for the TiVO ages. I hope they have subtitles in ebonics-to-English.
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2/4/2006 3:31:32 PM

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"monk not being in is a disgrace"

2/4/2006 3:39:40 PM

J_Hova
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^^ i was all about that article til the
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shit

other than that, Art monk was the shti in Tecmo Bowl

2/4/2006 4:23:48 PM

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Warren Moon:

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"I don't want to make this a racial thing..."


Oh I'm sorry, you just did. Screw this guy..you're not special. You're a great football player in the NFL, period. Stop looking at colors.

2/4/2006 6:15:25 PM

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aha that's like peyton saying "I don't wanna be a bad teammate" or w/e

[Edited on February 4, 2006 at 6:51 PM. Reason : jsdf]

2/4/2006 6:51:04 PM

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It is a huge deal, it sets a precedent.

2/4/2006 6:57:56 PM

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No, it really doesn't. He was a great QB that happened to be black.

Anybody remember the first defensive lineman or offensive tackle that was black to get in? No, because it doesn't matter.

It's so retarded because it's BLACKS that keep reminding the world they're just now stepping up to the plate and enbracing greatness. Him admitting he's the 1st is the same as saying that whites been doin' it LONG before me, and now I'm just catching up.

Racism will never go away so long as blacks keep bringing it up.

2/4/2006 6:59:48 PM

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congratulations to harry carson

been a long time comin my man

2/4/2006 7:00:08 PM

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I'd have liked to see Derrick Thomas get in


dude was a straight BEAST

2/4/2006 9:41:50 PM

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Quote :
"No, it really doesn't. He was a great QB that happened to be black.

Anybody remember the first defensive lineman or offensive tackle that was black to get in? No, because it doesn't matter.

It's so retarded because it's BLACKS that keep reminding the world they're just now stepping up to the plate and enbracing greatness. Him admitting he's the 1st is the same as saying that whites been doin' it LONG before me, and now I'm just catching up.

Racism will never go away so long as blacks keep bringing it up.

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whole heartedly agree

2/4/2006 9:53:59 PM

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