http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7779894845558014372&q=top+gear

and lada

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2085095381362301509&q=top+gear

[Edited on January 22, 2006 at 6:42 PM. Reason : adsf]

1/22/2006 6:39:13 PM

hahah thats pretty sweet.... the lada that is.

1/22/2006 7:17:15 PM

i thought he was gonna break the entire suspension when he was driving it stock

1/22/2006 8:00:00 PM

hehe 35bhp.

1/22/2006 8:23:46 PM

did that first video seem a bit bias to anyone else?

anycar will handle perfect given a nice traction control system and killing the power to the point where it wont lose traction.

sure if you stay on the gas in front wheel drive you are gonna slide off the road but by the same token if you stay on the gas in rear wheel drive you will end up spinning the car around.

lol and that test with the animals she didn't even drive the cars through it the same....she set the cars up to pass/fail

1/22/2006 8:50:46 PM

i concur. fucking BMW slut.

1/22/2006 8:53:54 PM

Quote :

" if you stay on the gas in rear wheel drive you will end up spinning the car around."

that's an oversimplification. you can induce either understeer or oversteer in most RWD cars by gassing it more. a FWD will always understeer unless you trail brake it (which can induce oversteer in almost ANY car. I've spun a Camry before with trail braking...haha)


Yeah, this test wasn't really scientific or anything, but does anyone really care to dispute their claims? for any performance-oriented purpose. FWD is shitty. RWD is good. AWD can be good, but it comes with tradeoffs, so it doesn't really become advantageous until you're playing with a fair amount of power.

[Edited on January 22, 2006 at 9:12 PM. Reason : asdf]

1/22/2006 9:04:35 PM

I :heart: awd.

1/22/2006 9:15:27 PM

blimey

1/22/2006 9:27:52 PM

Quote :

"sure if you stay on the gas in front wheel drive you are gonna slide off the road but by the same token if you stay on the gas in rear wheel drive you will end up spinning the car around. "

you can steer the car while it slides in rwd, unlike fwd where you are massively understeering. tard.

1/22/2006 9:41:30 PM

That Lada turned out to be pretty damned hilarious.

I wonder what the fuel economy is on a car that costs that much?

1/22/2006 9:48:55 PM

Honestly I think that for "racing" "rallying" wet condition etc. awd is the best choice (well engineered AWD cars wont understeer), but AWD tends to eat gas.

I also like RWD cars (both my cars are RWD)

maybe a combination of AWD and rear wheel drive would be nice. AWD for launches and a little RWD to combat understeer in the twisties, so a variable torque splitter thingie (like in the R34 GTR)would be awesome.

[Edited on January 23, 2006 at 12:36 AM. Reason : s]

1/23/2006 12:29:18 AM

Quote :

"you can steer the car while it slides in rwd, unlike fwd where you are massively understeering. tard."

that's still irrelevent, you shouldn't be understeering unless you are driving out of control...and problems come from both when you are out of control....she just didn't show that

i understand for an experienced driver that when pushing it to the limits you can do more with rwd.....but her focus were on normal(to a degree) driving situations.

She showed what pushing a fwd and awd car to hard would do....but she never pushed the rwd past its limits cause she didn't wanna end up backwards...she just turned on the trac control

1/23/2006 1:40:44 AM

you can make any car understeer
you can make any car oversteer

1/23/2006 2:24:47 AM

Quote :

"She showed what pushing a fwd and awd car to hard would do....but she never pushed the rwd past its limits cause she didn't wanna end up backwards...she just turned on the trac control "

pretty sure i saw the car get a little rear end sliding "drifting" if you will in the video. I think thats pushing it to its limits. watch the video again. tard.

1/23/2006 8:09:11 AM

Quote :

"maybe a combination of AWD and rear wheel drive would be nice. AWD for launches and a little RWD to combat understeer in the twisties, so a variable torque splitter thingie"

Say hello to the Impreza WRX STi

1/23/2006 9:33:25 AM

wrx's are all understeer

1/23/2006 10:51:42 AM

i cant believe anyone is disputing the claims she made
unless you are driving on loose footing rwd is going to win out every time

1/23/2006 12:39:08 PM

Quote :

"wrx's are all understeer "

stock

1/23/2006 1:52:38 PM

[almost] everything understeers stock

[Edited on January 23, 2006 at 3:01 PM. Reason : -]

1/23/2006 3:01:03 PM

well they understeer horribly for sports cars

[/best motoring videos]

1/23/2006 3:31:13 PM

They understeer horribly... I can attest to that... but they are frickin' fun to whip around in empty wet parking lots! A very forgiving car to us n00bs. (I'm still waiting for the snow)

[Edited on January 23, 2006 at 3:42 PM. Reason : i need a nice thick rear sway bar]

1/23/2006 3:38:05 PM

i wouldnt call a wrx a sports car

1/23/2006 4:11:05 PM

I'd like to see the same "zoo animal" test with those same cars when it was raining or snowing.

rwd would be poned.

1/23/2006 4:16:48 PM

id like to see the "how much heavy shit do i have to break" test

1/23/2006 4:31:15 PM

poned?

1/23/2006 5:05:50 PM

brake or break?

1/23/2006 7:11:16 PM

Scrooge!! Blimey!!!11

1/23/2006 7:29:12 PM

FWD>RWD

http://media.putfile.com/mini

1/24/2006 9:46:51 PM

haha that car did a stoppie

1/24/2006 9:50:06 PM

it would be funny to brake like that behind someone in traffic

1/24/2006 9:53:26 PM