1) New York City has 11 letters

2) Afghanistan has 11 letters.

3) Ramsin Yuseb (The terrorist who threatened to destroy the Twin
Towers in 1993) has 11 letters.

4) George W Bush has 11 letters.

This could be a mere coincidence, but this gets more interesting:

1) New York is the 11th state.

2) The first plane crashing against the Twin Towers was flight number
11.

3) Flight 11 was carrying 92 passengers. 9 + 2 = 11

4) Flight 77 which also hit Twin Towers, was carrying 65 passengers.
6+5 = 11

5) The tragedy was on September 11, or 9/11 as it is now known. 9 + 1+ 1 = 11

6) The date is equal to the US emergency services telephone number
911. 9 + 1 + 1 = 11.

Sheer coincidence..?! Read on and make up your own mind:

1) The total number of victims inside all the hi-jacked planes was
254. 2 + 5 + 4 = 11.

2) September 11 is day number 254 of the calendar year. Again 2 + 5 + 4
= 11.

3) The Madrid bombing took place on 3/11/2004. 3 + 1 + 1 + 2 + 4 = 11.

4) The tragedy of Madrid happened 911 days after the Twin Towers
incident.

Now this is where things get totally eerie:

The most recognised symbol for the US, after the Stars & Stripes, is
the Eagle. The following verse is taken from the Quran, the Islamic
holy book:

"For it is written that a son of Arabia would awaken a fearsome Eagle.
The wrath of the Eagle would be felt throughout the lands of Allah and lo,
while some of the people trembled in despair still more rejoiced: for
the wrath of the Eagle cleansed the lands of Allah and there was
peace."

That verse is number 9.11 of the Quran.

Still uncovinced about all of this..?! Try this and see how you feel
afterwards, it made my hair stand on end:

Open Microsoft Word and do the following:

1. Type in capitals Q33 NY. This is the flight number of the first
plane to hit one of the Twin Towers.

2. Highlight the Q33 NY.

3. Change the font size to 48.

4. Change the actual font to the WINGDINGS








That's some fucked up strange shit right there... i'm not one to typically jump on conspiracy theories, but all this CAN'T be a fucking coincidence.
I still support my man Gdub though.

1/25/2006 5:32:30 PM

This is so new, it's untested.

1/25/2006 5:33:01 PM

^^HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAH

*breath*

HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!

http://snopes.com/rumors/coincidence.asp

[Edited on January 25, 2006 at 5:37 PM. Reason : .]

1/25/2006 5:34:43 PM

you mean if you add and subtract different numbers you can eventually find some # combo that you can to fit it into superstition? that makes you cooler than the author of the davinci code.

1/25/2006 5:36:35 PM

Terminate.

1/25/2006 5:37:16 PM

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/coincidence.asp

there are two versions: Q33 was the quran verse and that it was the flight. not so for either case.

[Edited on January 25, 2006 at 5:42 PM. Reason : oops didn't update the page to see the other responses]

1/25/2006 5:41:58 PM

DUDE!

you need to find some existential detectives to help you figure this coincidence out!!1

1/25/2006 5:52:16 PM

Quote :

"2) The first plane crashing against the Twin Towers was flight number 11."

Quote :

"1. Type in capitals Q33 NY. This is the flight number of the first plane to hit one of the Twin Towers."

am i missing something?

1/25/2006 5:57:48 PM

http://www.kessler-design.com/conspiracy/index.html?c=TWW

Try putting "TWW" in.

1/25/2006 6:00:57 PM

Snewf gets a thousand cool points for the Huckabees reference.

[Edited on January 25, 2006 at 6:58 PM. Reason : And wins the thread to boot.]

1/25/2006 6:58:47 PM

Quote :

"I still support my man Gdub "

yeah, that explains it

1/25/2006 7:16:16 PM

This thread makes me want to listen to Madonna.

1/25/2006 7:39:34 PM

aha

GEE DUBBS!

1/25/2006 10:09:24 PM

so are you people saying you think it's just a fluke then? i really don't see how ALL of that could be a coincidence... i mean seriously.

1/29/2006 7:22:07 PM

HOLY SHIT MAN
THINK AND READ

it breaks down at so many points

Quote :

"The last name of the mastermind of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing has been transliterated from Arabic in a number of ways, including Yousef, Yusuf, and Youssef; his first name is generally rendered as 'Ramzi'; and officials believe his birth name was actually Abdul Basit Karim. Only by selecting particular combinations of these transliterated names (such as "Ramsin Yuseb" or "Ramsi Yousef") does one arrive at an 11-letter result. "

Quote :

"The compilation e-mail also claims that "The tragedy of Madrid happened 911 days after the Twin Towers incident," which wasn't the case in that the Madrid bombing took place 912 days after the 9/11 attacks. However, it would be fair to say 911 days separated the September 11 terrorist attacks on the U.S. and the March 11, 2004, train bombings in Madrid, Spain."

but that could have been PLANNED

Quote :

"Regarding the purported Quran verse about the awakening of a fearsome eagle, our piece on that subject explains there is no such entry in that holy book, let alone one occuring in Chapter 9, Verse 11. "

Quote :

"As we note in our article about the result produced by rendering "Q33 NY" in Microsoft's Wingdings font, there was no flight "Q33NY" involved in the terrorist attack on New York City — the two flights used to assault the Twin Towers were American Airlines Flight 11 and United Airlines Flight 175. "

it's a HOAX

[Edited on January 29, 2006 at 7:32 PM. Reason : .]

1/29/2006 7:28:15 PM

can we move this to the salisbury thread?

i mean i dont want to cap the massive brainpower being displayed here, but it seems fitting.

1/29/2006 7:51:49 PM

Quote :

"but all this CAN'T be a fucking coincidence."

What do people thing shit would be other than a coincidence (regarding number things that don't have sketchy constructions and aren't made up)?

1/29/2006 8:14:41 PM

with the millions of names, places, labels, etc all involved with any single second of the day you could probably find a list of 10 things like this if you tried hard enough. it is much easier with a huge, publicized, event.

1/29/2006 8:26:40 PM

1/29/2006 9:01:22 PM

one of the gayest threads ever

1/29/2006 9:07:49 PM

BUT IT IS INTERCONNECTED WITH ALL THE OTHER THREADS AND YOU AND ME....SO WE ARE ALL GAY.

1/29/2006 10:45:21 PM

What's really wierding me out is that the first person to post in this thread uses the first letter of the alphabet for his handle!! Someone call Kreskin!

1/29/2006 10:46:19 PM

1) The 11th reply to this thread from Shadowrunner says he likes listening to Madonna.

2) Modonna's performance of "Like a Virgin" at the first MTV Video Awards in 1984 is listed as #11 as the "top 100 moments that rocked TV" - http://tinyurl.com/dsrov

3) "Like a Virgin", her first pop hit, has 11 letters.

4) "A Virgin Mary", the mother of Jesus, has 11 letters.

5) Take the numerical placement for each letter of Mary:
M = 13
A = 1
R = 18
Y = 25
Now, add the letters, but subtract the 'R' to get MAY, as in "MAY I impregnate you", which is what the Angel Gabriel said to her before putting baby Jesus into her tummy.
(M+A-R+Y) = 13+1-18+25 = 21.
Now divide by 2 for the number of crosses that stood adjacent to Jesus's (Mary's son) cross - 21/2 = = 10.5. Now use the round formula in Microsoft Excel version 11 to 'Round Up', as in "Gabriel got all up in that shiznit".
'=Round(10.5,0)' = 11

6) Jesus was born on 12/25/1 (it's well accepted, of course, that he was born in year 01 instead of year 00 due to some calendar errors the Vatican made in the 3rd century). 1+2+2+5+1 = 11

7) "Jesus the Jew" has 11 letters.

8) Type "JESUS" backwards ("SUSEJ") into in MS Word. Change the size to 55 (because 11 * 5, the number of letters in 'jesus', = 55), then change the font to Wingdings. You clearly get 2 drops of blood surrounding a cross, then a happy face with a finger pointing to the blood.
Do you know what all this means? It means that Jesus and Bill Gates ("Bill Gates MS" has 11 letters, btw) conspired to destroy the World Trade Center!!



But seriously, what do you expect from all this? Do you actually think Osama bin Laden and his Al Queda henchmen are sitting around in caves solving number riddles? Are they hoping they will appear in an episode of Numb3rs? What benefit could any of this possibly serve their cause? Are they trying to tell us when the next attack is? Are they giving us insight into the last attack?
Or are they all just fucking batshit crazy?

[Edited on January 30, 2006 at 4:40 AM. Reason : .]

1/30/2006 4:35:24 AM

haha, gg. How long did that take?

1/30/2006 7:34:12 AM

Quote :

"I still support my man Gdub though. "

that doesnt surprise me.

1/30/2006 7:48:57 AM

Quote :

"haha, gg. How long did that take?"

about 11 minutes

1/30/2006 8:01:51 AM

I'm pretty sure you Soap Box regulars are getting trolled.

1/30/2006 8:04:05 AM

by an 18 year old First Year College student from "Q-town"? i doubt it.....

1/30/2006 8:07:37 AM

Quote :

"But seriously, what do you expect from all this? Do you actually think Osama bin Laden and his Al Queda henchmen are sitting around in caves solving number riddles? Are they hoping they will appear in an episode of Numb3rs? What benefit could any of this possibly serve their cause? Are they trying to tell us when the next attack is? Are they giving us insight into the last attack?"

One news program i watched talked about how terrorists can store hidden immages in JPEG immages, and then use them to communicate to each other by putting american hating messages hidden in the logos of large internet sites like TWW.

So the answer is yes, terrorists are specifically known for playing number games to advance their fight aginst our freedom.

[Edited on January 30, 2006 at 5:33 PM. Reason : ]

1/30/2006 5:32:44 PM

i can't tell if you're offering a serious rebuttal or not, but either way, that deserves a great big

1/30/2006 5:47:58 PM

^^^That's not real info. A's been stirring things up since the Pirate Captain saga last year.

1/31/2006 1:52:03 AM

^^ in case you're not just fucking around, hiding messages in a jpeg is as simple as downloading some free software that lets you input the image and the text. it's easy as clicking a few buttons.

1/31/2006 7:28:32 AM

I know it is possible and relatively easy. I was actually considering doing it to a picture and posting it here.
The came from the idea that terrorists are actively doing this and sending hidden messages by replacing pictures on large sites. I mean, if they wanted to do this by embedding a message in a picture of a kitty then emailing it to someone, or maybe going to catsrus.com and posting it on a I Love Kitty's public forum, fine. But the idea that they are hiding messages in the proverbial plain view of a larger audience, possibly by nefarious means of hacking or replacing other company or site logos I find a bit absurd.

1/31/2006 7:48:05 AM