BeerzNBikes All American 3736 Posts user info edit post |
Just interested in who ppl think they will select in the draft this year. I have heard stories from TE's like leonard pope to trading up for a RB like LenDale White.
Im on the draft a RB bandwagon. You? 3/19/2006 10:11:03 PM |
DaveOT All American 11945 Posts user info edit post |
Considering the deal they gave Foster, I'm not sure they'd want a RB that high. 3/19/2006 10:13:12 PM |
statefan24 All American 9157 Posts user info edit post |
omg lendale white would be the bomb diggity.
plz2get lendale white panthers!!!!11
[Edited on March 19, 2006 at 10:15 PM. Reason : i'm on the "L Whie will be a better pro RB than reggie bush" bandwagon] 3/19/2006 10:14:35 PM |
BeerzNBikes All American 3736 Posts user info edit post |
Foster cant get the 1-2-3 yds per carry busting through the line like Davis did when we went to the SB. He will get injured again. He plays best coming in after such a back and running cutbacks or to the outside after the D has set in on us running the middle. 3/19/2006 10:15:08 PM |
BeerzNBikes All American 3736 Posts user info edit post |
Ditto. LenDale has so much more complete game stamina than reggie 3/19/2006 10:15:41 PM |
spro All American 4329 Posts user info edit post |
i've seen some mock drafts where he slips all the way to the pick the cats have right now, #27 or thereabouts 3/19/2006 10:17:55 PM |
BeerzNBikes All American 3736 Posts user info edit post |
which mock drafts are those? He goes as early as #14-18 on all the ones I have seen. Maybe Laurence Maroney is an option too, but he seems to be #18-22 stock.... 3/19/2006 10:27:32 PM |
Sleik All American 11177 Posts user info edit post |
I just hope the Panthers don't start doing a running back revolving door...
or maybe I do... 3/19/2006 10:30:21 PM |
BeerzNBikes All American 3736 Posts user info edit post |
Well maybe if they draft a youngin and keep him they can avoid that... I agree that we need a longterm RB because our offense (and our rhythym of play) emanates from the running game... 3/19/2006 11:00:47 PM |
BoobsR_gr8 All American 30000 Posts user info edit post |
a good idea would be to check out the actual draft thread 3/19/2006 11:20:32 PM |
CaptainBF Terminated 2633 Posts user info edit post |
im hoping the panthers draft mario williams 3/20/2006 5:56:56 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
i dont see them trading up to a top 5 pick 3/20/2006 5:57:57 PM |
9one9 All American 21497 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=377791&page=3 3/20/2006 5:57:59 PM |
eleusis All American 24527 Posts user info edit post |
I'd love to see lendale white at Carolina, but I doubt he'll ever slip that far in the draft. 3/20/2006 5:59:55 PM |
Fermata All American 3771 Posts user info edit post |
Lendale White at RB and Chuck Norris at QB in '06. 3/20/2006 6:16:37 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
let's get the best possible defensive player available at the 27th? pick 3/20/2006 6:20:18 PM |
TheMango55 All American 1427 Posts user info edit post |
I would like to see us trade up to the late teens if we can get White. If not then a TE, would love to see a recieving tight end open up the passing game a little more. 3/20/2006 6:34:50 PM |
bigboi65 Starting Lineup 57 Posts user info edit post |
the Panthers will likely select a TE or RB it is said and the TE from UCLA Mercedes Lewis if he is still there or the TE from USC Dominique Byrd, and as far as RB go Laurence Maroney should still be available and the Panthers will probably go with him 3/20/2006 8:04:37 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
i would be SHOCKED if they pick up an offensive player in the first round...its just not their style...last few years it was:
2005: Thomas Davis (LB/DB) 2004: Chris Gamble (DB) 2003: Jordan Gross (OT) 2002: Julius Peppers (DE) 2001: Dan Morgan (LB)
so the last 5 years we've gotten 1 offensive player with our 1st round pick and he is a lineman...i think the last offensive player we got in the first round besides gross was carruth hahah
but it looks like we are pretty solid at defensive tackle due to free agency signings and the hopeful return of kris jenkins...the money they gave to foster mixed with a healthy eric shelton and the regular nick goings and jamal robertson 3rd and 4th string might keep us ok at running back unless there is just some kind of beastly stud on the board when we pick...i would like to see us get a nice receiving tight end but i think the top few like vernon davis and leonard pope will be gone...i'd love to get pope though...6'8"....damn...another WR to help pressure colbert and carter to step up and improve would be alright
but here's my secret knowledge nugget for you...MANNY LAWSON TO PLAY OUTSIDE LINEBACKER...i really think this is a possibility...defensive minded team, just lost a great OLB in witherspoon, manny looks like the type of player who would fit nicely in the panthers' defense...he can blitz from the LB position and he is fast enough to run RBs to the sidelines...and maybe he'd get in on special teams too...you heard it here first...Manny Lawson to the Panthers] 3/21/2006 12:16:35 PM |
buddha1747 All American 5067 Posts user info edit post |
but this is the year we really need a offensive player 3/21/2006 12:18:28 PM |
hgtran All American 9855 Posts user info edit post |
Lendale White, Deangelo Williams, and Lawrence Marooney. 1 of those 3 will be available when the Panthers draft. 3/21/2006 12:37:50 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
no way in hell Deangelo is available, probably not Lendale either...we don't pick until the 29th pick
I think Joseph Addai would be a good fit though 3/21/2006 12:39:16 PM |
sherm06 Veteran 109 Posts user info edit post |
How solid is the DT we picked up from the Rams? Don't know much about him. 3/21/2006 12:44:32 PM |
nrmiller All American 5314 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Manny Lawson to the Panthers " |
Manny will be gone before the Panthers pick3/21/2006 12:45:35 PM |
kbncsufan All American 1504 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I think Joseph Addai would be a good fit though" |
i think that this could be the winner...big, strong, and much faster than people think
also he is durable3/21/2006 12:47:26 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
^^^not bad but Kimo from the Ravens is REALLY NASTY...and if Jenkins is healthy it will be Jenks and Kimo starting in the middle
^^man i hope not...i really think he could fit into our system perfectly] 3/21/2006 12:50:29 PM |
BiggzsIII All American 5016 Posts user info edit post |
I have to agree with who it was that said a receiving TE will badly fill a need...but the cream of the crop prob will be gone when we pick.
Def don't think we will draft a RB, unless L. White is available - so unlikely
A reciever will be nice, but I think we can still get a quality receiver through FA to compliment S.Smith and make the younger ones step up.
Lawson if he is available, oh man what a def. pick up...I think we will also go Defense first round also. But I am hoping a TE drops or beastly RB is still available...
III & FH 3/21/2006 1:35:46 PM |
hgtran All American 9855 Posts user info edit post |
^^we has the 27th pick, not 29th. 3/21/2006 1:52:08 PM |
Lunchbox All American 1328 Posts user info edit post |
we need WR's BAD all we got is steve smith and he is going to get tired of carring the load all the time. and damnit i hate to say it, but we need to start looking at some QB's cause Jake just ain't cutting it anymore. he throws too many picks. 3/21/2006 3:15:10 PM |
DaveOT All American 11945 Posts user info edit post |
Delhomme is fine as long as he has some options. It's when Smith is the ONLY thing on the offense and gets covered up that causes Jake to try to become Brett Favre and force the ball into ridiculous places.
So either get a running game established or add a solid WR/TE and Jake won't be an issue. 3/21/2006 3:16:32 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
we are not a pass first team...we dont need to load up on wide receivers...have you ever seen the panthers play 3/21/2006 3:17:30 PM |
bigboi65 Starting Lineup 57 Posts user info edit post |
A TE would fit our run first offense especially one like Dominique Byrd from USC, Mercedes Lewis is a better recieving TE but Byrd is a better blocker and can still catch well and he would be a good pick up if Lewis is not available at that point and that will fill a hole in our offense and give Delhomme another great recieving option that can block for Foster. A TE would be a great pick. 3/21/2006 3:55:25 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
i think we need a TE but i dont think either of the top few TEs will be available for our first round pick...I say we pick up TJ in the 4th or something 3/21/2006 3:56:09 PM |
DaveOT All American 11945 Posts user info edit post |
How did TJ do at the combine (aside from the Wonderlic...)? 3/21/2006 3:58:19 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
not too great...obviously he wasnt gonna be up there with Ol' Maryland Queer or a few other top ranked TEs...dunno about what round they predict him to get drafted in though...not the 1st 3/21/2006 4:03:57 PM |
BeerzNBikes All American 3736 Posts user info edit post |
A few things to add (also glad to see this thread still alive as I think this could be a big draft for us):
-No way DeAngelo or Lwhite is undrafted by #27. We would have to trade up (unlikely). -Marcedes Lewis stock fell alot from low wonderlic score, he could be an option. -We need a RB more than any defensive position, foster cannot be our #1, he is injury prone. -We arent outtof the game with K-Rob for a 2-WR yet are we? we need a kickreturner too. -Manny as OLB would be hot and he will be available around our pick as well. BUT! ........ -Eric shelton was a complete distaster last year, we are probably letting him go soon so who does that leave us with? Robertson? ha! Smart is gone. Goings will never be a starter unless injury dictates it to be so ( a la postseason '05/'06) (hes a solid 3guy)
We need a RB BAD![b] 3/21/2006 6:10:05 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
why do you say Shelton was a complete disaster last year? He got injured in the preseason and never played because Stephen Davis looked good early after his surgery...and yeah Foster has had a few injuries but he is still solid...I think drafting an RB is dependent on what the coaching staff thinks about Shelton...cause if Shelton somehow strikes the Panthers as a younger Stephen Davis, I'm pretty sure they would be comfortable with a similarity to the Davis/Foster backfield that we rode all the way to the Superbowl...and Goings and Robertson arent starters, although Goings had a great stretch of a half dozen games a year and a half ago...but Goings is a solid 3rd back and Robertson is the future of our kick return game...I just know we addressed our defensive line issues, are pretty solid with our 2ndary and need to fill in Will Witherspoon's spot with a great player 3/21/2006 6:13:57 PM |
BeerzNBikes All American 3736 Posts user info edit post |
local panthers sites and other scouting orgs express the (rumor) of shelton being a dissappointment. He isnt "adapting to the game" and "hitting holes" as they had hoped. That doesent mean he wont be a good player years down the road, but his mental game is lacking right now. Thats why he didnt make the team (the injury didnt help him either).
We need effective #1 RB this year. I will hope that shelton picks it up in years to come with you...
Manny in the 1st round would make me smile though.... 3/21/2006 6:18:52 PM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
^^^K-Rob has been off the market for a while now, Vikings re-signed him a while back. 3/21/2006 8:15:51 PM |
BeerzNBikes All American 3736 Posts user info edit post |
Damn the vikings.... 3/21/2006 9:13:00 PM |
BiggzsIII All American 5016 Posts user info edit post |
TE and RB...we can pick up a decent receiver via FA or trade...and no way we load up on WR's that is crazy...we run first and don't shoot it out like a west coast offense. We just need to get a solid TE that can run block and catch 5-20 yards across the middle or in the flats...Lets just keep triple teams off Smith...
But yeah, a RB is well needed also...Foster is solid, but in no means a full season starter (wont make it). And I don't think we are ready to rely on Goings or Shelton...
III & FH 3/21/2006 9:33:01 PM |
BeerzNBikes All American 3736 Posts user info edit post |
Ditto, my man. But who who who is gonna be our guy? I KNOW allottof bigname RBs would love to come here because we are so well known for being a run oriented team and our recent success has to be alluring.
Do we risk drafting one and get lucky like the Bucs did with Caddylac? It will be tough to find a quality RB through FA because most have signed? Who is left?
Ricky Davis? j/k 3/21/2006 9:39:00 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
Ricky Davis?
3/21/2006 10:40:42 PM |
skumstea All American 541 Posts user info edit post |
Running Back, please, for the love of god, DeShaun is too damn fragile. It's not his fault. He can be explosive and I think if he is healthy he is pro bowl caliber, but we need insurance, White, Williams, Marooney. Period. 3/21/2006 10:46:04 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
anybody can get injured, including lendale, etc
oh no steve smith broke his leg 2 years ago lets trade him 3/21/2006 10:49:46 PM |
arog20012001 All American 10023 Posts user info edit post |
has there been a year that Foster wasn't hurt at some point or another? 3/21/2006 10:59:55 PM |
skumstea All American 541 Posts user info edit post |
yeah what the fuck are you talking about tree, DeShaun is injuried every year. 3/21/2006 11:04:01 PM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
Foster is very un-proven, especially to be a feature back on a run-first team. He also in the past has shown tendencies to develop fumbilitis, but hopefully that was just that superbowl year and not a consistent thing. And yeah, he's been injured almost every year for at least a couple of games, so I don't expect this year to be any different.
Plus to get FULL effectiveness out of a back like Foster, you need a change of pace back to go with him. He needs to come in after someone has pounded the line a little bit and then he could really explode off the corner. 3/21/2006 11:12:21 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
i agree we need a change of pace to go with him, and if the panthers dont think shelton is that stephen davis-type change of pace, they will draft or go after one in FA...but i know we've seen foster make amazing plays as well, ie 70 yard runs, dragging a safety 25 yards, dragging 6 eagles 10 yards...thats the foster we have to hang on to, cause you know if we let him go he will run for 200 on us 3/21/2006 11:16:48 PM |
BoobsR_gr8 All American 30000 Posts user info edit post |
a smart choice is a rb or LB
you can get a decent TE in the 2nd-3rd rd, there are a lot of them this year 3/21/2006 11:16:55 PM |