Clevelander All American 4640 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.charlotte.com/mld/charlotte/sports/special_packages/marchmania/14145262.htm
Quote : | "DURHAM - Add Duke's Mike Krzyzewski to the list of coaches rising to defend Herb Sendek from N.C. State's restless fans.
On Saturday in Dallas, Texas coach Rick Barnes said Sendek, a former Barnes assistant, isn't properly appreciated at N.C. State, where some fans want him fired despite five straight NCAA tournament bids.
Krzyzewski complimented Sendek on Monday during a news conference scheduled to discuss Duke's Atlanta Regional semifinal meeting with Louisiana State.
"He's really one of the terrific coaches in our country," Krzyzewski said. "He's a proven winner. It makes me appreciate what we have at Duke with the support we've had."
Some Duke boosters were ready to run Krzyzewski out of town in 1983 after the Blue Devils went a combined 21-34 in his second and third seasons. Krzyzewski remains bitter with some of those Iron Dukes boosters to this day after three NCAA titles and 10 Final Four trips.
"There are still some (Iron Dukes) I would never talk to," Krzyzewski said. " ... But I'll always talk to my president and my administrators, because they didn't flinch. Hopefully (N.C. State's) people won't flinch, either."
Krzyzewski acknowledged that some N.C. State fans will say he is sticking up for Sendek because Duke has regularly defeated the Wolfpack. Duke is 23-3 against N.C. State under Sendek since he became coach in 1996-97.
"For those people, go write a letter and complain about me, then," Krzyzewski said. "Because I am going to say something good about a good guy and a really good coach."
Sendek is 191-132 in 10 seasons with the Wolfpack. N.C. State was 22-10 this season and was eliminated from the NCAA tournament in the second round by Texas on Sunday.
"We had, I think, four outstanding teams in our conference, and I think that's State included," Krzyzewski said. "State had some problems at the end of the year when they were hurt and injured and whatever. I mean, they beat (George Washington) by (21). They were really good." " |
damn you Herb Haters have made your presence known
[Edited on March 20, 2006 at 7:48 PM. Reason : hopefully easier to read]3/20/2006 7:47:39 PM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
Coach speak at it's finest.
Hell, I'd support him too if he was my whipping boy 3/20/2006 7:49:31 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
Why should we listen to K about this? It's like listening to Roy. They have their best interests in mind. 3/20/2006 7:50:17 PM |
statefan24 All American 9157 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "It makes me appreciate what we have at Duke with the support we've had." |
kind of like how seeing starving Kenyan kids make me appreciate the fact that I have good meals every day?3/20/2006 7:50:34 PM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
I remember Royboy defending coach Doherty.
That was right before he took his job
Quote : | "kind of like how seeing starving Kenyan kids make me appreciate the fact that I have good meals every day?" |
aha
[Edited on March 20, 2006 at 7:51 PM. Reason : ]3/20/2006 7:50:56 PM |
Clevelander All American 4640 Posts user info edit post |
I read it the same way. I was merely saying that the Herb Haters have voiced their opinion loud enough that even Coach K knows about it 3/20/2006 7:51:17 PM |
RattlerRyan All American 8660 Posts user info edit post |
Kenya has it way better than Zimbabwe who has it way better than Malawi 3/20/2006 7:51:23 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
exactly statefan. 3/20/2006 7:51:41 PM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
^^^Nah, I got your point.
I'm just saying it's funny. I want to hear a coach one day "Hell, nah. That guy sucks. Are you kidding me?"
[Edited on March 20, 2006 at 7:52 PM. Reason : ] 3/20/2006 7:52:06 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
If I was ever a coach, that would be what I'd say. 3/20/2006 7:53:04 PM |
J_Hova All American 30984 Posts user info edit post |
a damn shame
i hate this schools "fan" base 3/20/2006 7:53:11 PM |
Clevelander All American 4640 Posts user info edit post |
yeah I could hear Coach K saying "NC State should keep Herb Sendek. He is a great coach. And I know exactly how to kick his ass every year"
^ I know the feeling. I stopped going to football games b/c I couldn't stand the fans booing Amato or Jay Davis or Marcus Stone
[Edited on March 20, 2006 at 7:55 PM. Reason : it was saddening] 3/20/2006 7:53:51 PM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
^^^Heck no you wouldn't... not if you had a sleeping giant right down the street where and you can have your way with them under the current administration.
[Edited on March 20, 2006 at 7:54 PM. Reason : ] 3/20/2006 7:54:30 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
I AM SICK AND FUCKING TIRED OF BEING CALLED A "FAN"
WHEN YOU HAVE GIVEN AS MUCH MONEY TO THE WOLFPACK CLUB AS I HAVE
THEN WE'LL TALK.
UNTIL THEN
SHUT THE FUCK UP 3/20/2006 7:54:32 PM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
We are bad fans for expecting more than a decade that is highlighted by a sweet 16 appearance.
If that's the definition, then I guess I am a bad fan. 3/20/2006 7:55:54 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
I'M A BAD FAN
[Edited on March 20, 2006 at 7:56 PM. Reason : .] 3/20/2006 7:56:14 PM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
Same here.
I don't pay my WPC donation and Alumni Association dues to support this shit. 3/20/2006 7:56:49 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
exactly 3/20/2006 7:57:09 PM |
gface All American 593 Posts user info edit post |
People have their opinions, I can understand that. It's the assclowns that put lipstick on a pig and call it success. 3/20/2006 7:57:40 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Hell, I'd support him too if he was my whipping boy
Quote : | "Duke is 23-3 against N.C. State under Sendek since he became coach in 1996-97" |
damn
[Edited on March 20, 2006 at 8:00 PM. Reason : sdfsdf]3/20/2006 7:58:03 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
has any coach ever been like
"who? him?? hell yea get rid of that guy"
publicly? (sp) 3/20/2006 8:03:04 PM |
Mangy Wolf All American 2006 Posts user info edit post |
Great. After Roy Williams gives his endorsement, I expect Jed Clampett to offer a 10 year extension. 3/20/2006 8:12:05 PM |
arog20012001 All American 10023 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "WHEN YOU HAVE GIVEN AS MUCH MONEY TO THE WOLFPACK CLUB AS I HAVE
THEN WE'LL TALK. " |
so this makes you an authority?
get that bullshit outta here
your opinion means exactly the same as someone who has given 1 dollar to the WPC
[Edited on March 20, 2006 at 8:15 PM. Reason : or none for that matter]3/20/2006 8:13:48 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
^no, it makes him a stake holder. Not giving anything makes you a whiny little bitch.
I'm pretty sure the actual coach K quote was, "Herb sendek's a great coach................FOR ME TO POOP ON" 3/20/2006 8:15:29 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
no, that makes me more important than you. 3/20/2006 8:15:31 PM |
arog20012001 All American 10023 Posts user info edit post |
wow.
not even close. unless you have dropped millions of dollars then you are just spending money to make yourself THINK you are important. 3/20/2006 8:17:11 PM |
statefan24 All American 9157 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "so this makes you an authority?
get that bullshit outta here
your opinion means exactly the same as someone who has given 1 dollar to the WPC
[Edited on March 20, 2006 at 8:15 PM. Reason : or none for that matter]" |
you are a fucking dumbass, he was responding to being called a "fan"
[Edited on March 20, 2006 at 8:19 PM. Reason : fd]3/20/2006 8:18:47 PM |
arog20012001 All American 10023 Posts user info edit post |
whats the fucking difference?
I repeat:
Quote : | "unless you have dropped millions of dollars then you are just spending money to make yourself THINK you are important." |
[Edited on March 20, 2006 at 8:20 PM. Reason : .]3/20/2006 8:20:02 PM |
statefan24 All American 9157 Posts user info edit post |
he said nothing about his being an authority or being important until you brought it up.
he just didn't like being called out as a bad fan.
anyone who gives $$ to ncsu is not a (bad)"fan".
wow you are dumb.
[Edited on March 20, 2006 at 8:22 PM. Reason : fds]
[Edited on March 20, 2006 at 8:22 PM. Reason : fds] 3/20/2006 8:21:29 PM |
arog20012001 All American 10023 Posts user info edit post |
so you speak for him now?
^you're the fuckin dumbass, just cause you give money doesn't make you a "good" fan
[Edited on March 20, 2006 at 8:23 PM. Reason : yeah, you] 3/20/2006 8:22:17 PM |
statefan24 All American 9157 Posts user info edit post |
no but I can see what is going on and you are being unreasonable and stupid.
^yes but if you give a program $$ i'm pretty sure that means you support the program, therefore you are a fan.
are you going to give money to a program that you do not support?
no.
you lose.
I didn't say that it made him a good fan but calling him a bad fan after he has given X amount of money is just stupid.
[Edited on March 20, 2006 at 8:26 PM. Reason : fds] 3/20/2006 8:23:02 PM |
arog20012001 All American 10023 Posts user info edit post |
you're too thick to reason with
you can support a program financially without supporting it in spirit
i.e. ragging the program any time you feel like we've slipped even the smallest bit 3/20/2006 8:26:44 PM |
gface All American 593 Posts user info edit post |
FWIW, I was a great fan before I ever came to State. Hell, I was a great fan before I ever earned my first dollar. Money shows financial investment which adds to everything and that's respectable. anywho... 3/20/2006 8:27:26 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
it's not even worth responding to people who lack reading comprehension. 3/20/2006 8:27:28 PM |
statefan24 All American 9157 Posts user info edit post |
^^^so I guess you are using the old "either you are a herb fan/supporter or you are not a true NC State fan" logic?
[Edited on March 20, 2006 at 8:28 PM. Reason : fd] 3/20/2006 8:27:44 PM |
arog20012001 All American 10023 Posts user info edit post |
^^you got nothin to say, thats why
absolutely not, my original point was that he claimed to be superior to other "fans" based on the fact that he contribute to the WPC
[Edited on March 20, 2006 at 8:29 PM. Reason : .] 3/20/2006 8:28:02 PM |
Leatherneck Veteran 278 Posts user info edit post |
Coach K just wants him to stay so he can continue to kick his ass. Makes perfect sense to me. And this whole notion of being a "bad fan" or "good fan" is bullshit to me. Everyone is entitled to express their opinion. If you don't like something then you don't like it. 3/20/2006 8:28:17 PM |
statefan24 All American 9157 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "if you give a program $$ i'm pretty sure that means you support the program, therefore you are a fan." |
It can't be put any more simply than that and if you think that I am "too thick to reason with" after saying that, then whatever, you aren't worth it.3/20/2006 8:29:45 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
It's not exclusive to sports at all -- spending money reveals what your true preferences are. This is a basic tenant of economic analysis. People speak a lot of bullshit about what they support, but when they are asked to sacrifice anything for it, they show their true colors.
[Edited on March 20, 2006 at 8:31 PM. Reason : sdfsdf] 3/20/2006 8:30:23 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "absolutely not, my original point was that he claimed to be superior to other "fans" based on the fact that he contribute to the WPC" |
I WAS MAKING A STATEMENT ABOUT BEING CALLED A "FAN"
YOU ARE A DUMB SHIT WHO LACKS READING COMPREHENSION3/20/2006 8:30:44 PM |
statefan24 All American 9157 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "absolutely not, my original point was that he claimed to be superior to other "fans" based on the fact that he contribute to the WPC" |
HE ONLY BROUGHT UP HIS GIVING MONEY TO STATE BECAUSE SOMEONE CALLED HIM A "FAN" CAN YOU READ???
Quote : | "I AM SICK AND FUCKING TIRED OF BEING CALLED A "FAN"" |
[Edited on March 20, 2006 at 8:31 PM. Reason : ^yes]3/20/2006 8:30:52 PM |
arog20012001 All American 10023 Posts user info edit post |
so what are you trying to say? that you aren't a "fan" because you gave more money than someone else?
what does that make you then?
...and i love how you think typing in all caps makes your argument better 3/20/2006 8:32:42 PM |
swlpack Starting Lineup 62 Posts user info edit post |
What a surprise. Of course Coach K would support a coach that he has beaten like a red-headed step child for 10 years. He remembers that it was harder to play State when we had a real coach (i.e. V) and knows that having only one rival makes life easier (i.e. UNC).
Is anyone really shocked by this or think that this is some kind testament to Herb's coaching abilities? If so, get your head checked, you may have a problem. 3/20/2006 8:34:19 PM |
statefan24 All American 9157 Posts user info edit post |
yes, giving money to a program pretty much excludes him from the "fan" group. it makes him a true fan, rather than a "fan"
Quote : | "It's not exclusive to sports at all -- spending money reveals what your true preferences are. This is a basic tenant of economic analysis. People speak a lot of bullshit about what they support, but when they are asked to sacrifice anything for it, they show their true colors." |
[Edited on March 20, 2006 at 8:36 PM. Reason : fd]3/20/2006 8:35:10 PM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
^^Yes.
I think K was being honest
K fears Herb. He knows Herb is on the cusp of greatness.
[Edited on March 20, 2006 at 8:35 PM. Reason : ] 3/20/2006 8:35:18 PM |
swlpack Starting Lineup 62 Posts user info edit post |
I really hope that is sarcasm. 3/20/2006 8:36:35 PM |
statefan24 All American 9157 Posts user info edit post |
naw 3/20/2006 8:37:09 PM |
arog20012001 All American 10023 Posts user info edit post |
whatever
maybe this excludes him from being called a pseudo-"fan"
but to say that his fan status is any different than anyone elses just cause he contributes money is dumb.
what if someone is poor as shit, can't afford to give part of their paycheck to the WPC, they could also be excluded from this pseduo-"fan"dom if they are diehard
[Edited on March 20, 2006 at 8:42 PM. Reason : .] 3/20/2006 8:42:10 PM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I really hope that is sarcasm." |
Dripping sarcasm3/20/2006 8:43:21 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "what if someone is poor as shit, can't afford to give part of their paycheck to the WPC, they could also be excluded from this pseduo-"fan"dom if they are diehard" |
I'm not rolling in money. I'm still a student. Yet I sacrifice to make payments.3/20/2006 8:43:32 PM |