http://www2.acs.ncsu.edu/hr/pdf/saao.pdf

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"Student Affairs - Vice Chancellor - $132,602 to $212,170"

Overpaid dick tom stafford

[Edited on March 27, 2006 at 7:25 PM. Reason : note, this is for 2003-04]

3/27/2006 7:24:23 PM

i'm from stafford, virginia


i've met Dr. Stafford several times and he's a good guy


in summation,

fuck you.


sincerely,

donny

3/27/2006 7:25:39 PM

whatever. i've met tom, he's a dick

3/27/2006 7:27:07 PM

i see what you did there

3/27/2006 7:28:31 PM

hes been nice when i've met him. but nice or mean isn't the main qualification for salary, its the quality of work you do. hes come to more student events that i've been at than any other administrator.

3/27/2006 7:28:31 PM

he cares. sometimes caring about people means you have to piss them off, for their own good.


frame of reference. the more you know.

3/27/2006 7:29:24 PM

My God, a person with a doctorate making a 6 figure salary?! Unthinkable!!

3/27/2006 7:33:41 PM

Dr. Stafford could best Bill Brasky in any contest...even if Dr. Stafford had his toes tied behind his back by barbed wire.

3/27/2006 7:35:12 PM

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"whatever. i've met tom, he's a dick"

i had to call him one time for an interview...his secretary said he was busy and in the background he was said "no I'm not, let me talk to them." did the interview right there. good guy

3/27/2006 11:19:27 PM

OH NO

THE MAN IN CHARGE OF STUDENT AFFAIRS FOR A MAJOR PUBLIC UNIVERSITY WITH LIKE 15,000 STUDENTS HAS A 6 FIGURE SALARY

3/27/2006 11:28:31 PM

thats not overpaid

3/27/2006 11:28:48 PM

Is this thread about the student government thing? Is this foreverclear fella in the student senate?

3/27/2006 11:30:01 PM

considering how many times he has to deal with the student senate... i'd say he's underpaid

3/27/2006 11:41:13 PM

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"THE MAN IN CHARGE OF STUDENT AFFAIRS FOR A MAJOR PUBLIC UNIVERSITY WITH LIKE 15,000 STUDENTS HAS A 6 FIGURE SALARY"

more like 24k undergrads...but the shootings are tryin to keep that balanced...

3/27/2006 11:50:27 PM

They're behind. The shooters need to get on the ball.

3/27/2006 11:52:56 PM

Tom Stafford does a helluva lot more for the students of this university than student government ever has.

He's a good guy, who does what is best for the university & not his resume, unlike SG.


And compared to what other administrators get paid at similar schools, he is highly underpaid. OSU & many other research schools pay their top admin. upwards of 500k or more.

Thank you for showing your ignorance, like the rest of SG.

[Edited on March 28, 2006 at 12:22 AM. Reason : ]

3/28/2006 12:19:57 AM

hahaha he doesnt do whats best for his resume

hahahaha

3/28/2006 12:21:55 AM

^^

3/28/2006 12:59:23 AM

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"Tom Stafford does a helluva lot more for the students of this university than student government ever has. He's a good guy, who does what is best for the university & not his resume, unlike SG. And compared to what other administrators get paid at similar schools, he is highly underpaid. OSU & many other research schools pay their top admin. upwards of 500k or more. Thank you for showing your ignorance, like the rest of SG."

3/28/2006 1:54:31 AM

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"his secretary said he was busy and in the background he was said "no I'm not, let me talk to them." did the interview right there. good guy"

oldest trick in the book

3/28/2006 8:24:43 AM

I've got a lot of respect for Dr. Stafford. He's one of the few top administrators that gives a shit about the students.

3/28/2006 8:40:54 AM

Most of what I have read about Stafford is all good, and he seems to be fairly active, and even said hello to me often when I would see him in the gym locker room (i had an early diving class and there was often no one else in there).

But...

Am I not correct that Stafford is pretty much the reason campout was put on hiatus the first time and probably the main reason it came back without much more than a whimper, and continues to be a shell of what it once was?

3/28/2006 8:49:56 AM

definitely the oldest trick in the book

3/28/2006 8:50:47 AM

Stafford is a nice guy. But, he is out of touch with the students at state. Of course he's gonna go to a dozen campus events per year, so does oblinger... but that doesn't mean that they aren't practicing the bs politics that all upper college admin do.

Ask any african american frat/sorority what they think of him. He's dead set against all on-campus parties they have, and has tried to limit their ability to throw a social event. From the interactoin I have seen, I have seen very little comprimise on his side for the students. IMO

3/28/2006 9:17:10 AM

Mary, cancel all my appointments today. I'm going to lie to students to improve my image.

3/28/2006 9:24:11 AM

I find it amazing how many people are getting heated over a single post. Be thankful such information is pubically available. As somebody mentioned before ... before you look at just the number, compare it to other universities similar to NC State. (Somebody else plz to insert a link with comparisons...)

[Edited on March 28, 2006 at 9:46 AM. Reason : .]

3/28/2006 9:46:22 AM

I find it amusing that all these people are showing up across all forums with few posts, bashing Stafford.

hmm.... wonder who all these cats are...

3/28/2006 9:50:15 AM

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"Stafford is a nice guy. But, he is out of touch with the students at state. Of course he's gonna go to a dozen campus events per year, so does oblinger... but that doesn't mean that they aren't practicing the bs politics that all upper college admin do."

spoken like a politician. Who are you? Walton? Quick? which one... come on out.

3/28/2006 10:04:54 AM

Dude, I'm a regular student who used to work at the student center. I've seen alot of students and ncsu employees bash stafford for what he has done in the students favor. I don't get involved with NCSU politics, but I've been around enough vice and associate vice chancellors to know that they have a specifc demographic that they tend to, and alot of times, this demographic pertains to the the elitists at ncsu... Don't get me wrong, they're nice people... but some are so out of touch with the common student.

3/28/2006 11:42:24 AM

And on a side note. Fuck Will Quick. That dude is a Douche Bag.

3/28/2006 11:44:02 AM

as long as you agree calling him overpaid is retarded, and that you are a retard

3/28/2006 11:46:12 AM

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"State409c: Am I not correct that Stafford is pretty much the reason campout was put on hiatus the first time and probably the main reason it came back without much more than a whimper, and continues to be a shell of what it once was?"

haha yeah, I was going through the Student Senate minutes yesterday for Technician and saw some of the old Campout stuff from 1999-2000..."What part of 'no' don't you understand?"...

[Edited on March 28, 2006 at 12:00 PM. Reason :  ]

3/28/2006 12:00:23 PM

i cant blame him, i would have done the same thing
students lost that right when they started bonfires and harassed cops

3/28/2006 12:02:04 PM

haha, yeah i was about to say i think retarded students are the reason campout was put on hiatus

3/28/2006 12:03:25 PM

I don't agree with the position Stafford has taken with this issue, but in every other communication I've had with him, he's always been extremely nice. I think he really is looking out for the student body.

3/28/2006 12:09:46 PM

I don't blame him for canceling it, not at all. I was there that night and saw first hand the destruction. But, the students were held 100% accountable despite the fact that there were probably 2-3 cops patrolling all 3000 of us (or was it above 5k, my memory is hazy). You get 3000 of anyone together and tell them they can drink alcohol openly (people were walking up and down the streets with open containers) and problems will happen.

The students were made scapegoats for a severe lack of planning by all levels involved with putting on campout.

I claimed then and continue to maintain, that they could have had a campout next week, and if they would have only had more officers on patrol to stop the madness then everything would be fine. As a campouter, I would have paid $10 bucks to do this. Three thousand kids * 10 bucks should be enough to cover the cost of the police force for a weekend of tailgating.

The fact that Stafford was mostly draconian about the policy afterwards will always live a bitter taste in my mouth for the guy.

And, while were at it, I'd like to thank Student Governement for standing up for students and getting what we wanted out there (alcohol and fires). A big applause to those guys.

[Edited on March 28, 2006 at 12:39 PM. Reason : x]

3/28/2006 12:36:51 PM

State409c should be more pissed than anyone, Stafford is older than shit and still has ALL his hair.

3/28/2006 12:43:28 PM

Does this look like Chit Chat to you, dipshit?

3/28/2006 12:44:23 PM

Im not really good with those sorts of things, it took me forever to figure out that fags are bald and wear a scarf

3/28/2006 12:48:39 PM

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""Maybe now that the senate is done crying for student representation by giving part timer payers full time benefits against their own constitution, they can get back to impeaching the president, who has had one of the strongest wins in recent history, at the end of his term.""

I said this in another thread... since then I've learned that senate has somewhat backed down from the administration and backed down from the president, but the senate was in the middle of impeaching who we elected. Lets not pretend like its the evil administration vs kindly student senate who only wants fair representation.

3/28/2006 4:05:36 PM

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"Today we salute you Mr. Student Government Power Taker. Behind every administration is a guy who gets paid for wasting everyone's time. What do you do when you have no power whatsoever? You pick on others who have even less. While other administration officials are content to quietly take their six-figure salaries, you fight feelings of unimportance by blocking an election nobody was going to vote in anyway. So crack open a nice cold [one], Protector of the Student Government Constitution. It's not the student Senators who need to get a life, it's you."

courtesy of Jeff Rice, Junior in Statistics

3/28/2006 5:35:47 PM

"What do you do when you have no power whatsoever?"
i don't know, money - a big salary, influence -ability to alter elections at will, title - vice chancellor... if you define that as no power, then how do you define power?

3/28/2006 5:37:54 PM

I really think you just have an English comprehension issue...

3/28/2006 5:59:56 PM