bigTHEW All American 7330 Posts user info edit post |
I meant to post this earlier prior to the decision but I feel Fowler has been doing a great job on this coaching search. He has approached two A list coaches who both mulled the decision prior to committing to stay at their respective programs. At this point you couldn’t ask for much more and you certainly can’t blame Fowler for these two coaches not coming to State. He has kept mum about who is going after and has been able to pool the necessary resources to collect nice looking coaching packages for the candidates.
The fact of the matter is Herb left the program in unfavorable terms to many in the media and coaching community, yet Fowler still approached the candidates that not only many said would say no outright, but that the fans desired to see become NC State’s next coach. Whatever the factors that are involved in hiring a coach at this level for that inspiring coach, you can’t blame Fowler for that person not signing the contract here. Here is Fowler continuing his game plan and finding the right coach that would be the right fit at NC State. 4/11/2006 8:06:20 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
whatever you said has probably already been said 1000 times in 1000 different threads 4/11/2006 8:07:47 PM |
DC_chump All American 1713 Posts user info edit post |
I don't blame Fowler for not being able to sign these 2 coaches... He has crushed my enthusiasm and played more games with my heart then any girlfriend I've ever had. 4/11/2006 8:12:21 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
This is a serious question. Is it now time for Lee Fowler to publically address the fans and give some sort of information about the search? It appears that the front office lacks the ability to close a deal. I want some answers and not the general pr bullshit about how they are working on getting a coach. Who is next? Why did the deals fall through. Someone inform us the fans, alumni, boosters, and students. 4/11/2006 8:12:45 PM |
bigTHEW All American 7330 Posts user info edit post |
The deals could have fallen through for various reason. In Barnes, had we approached him in aother year where he didn't have a the type of recruiting class that is coming and shaping his team up to make a Final Four run, it could have been very likely that Barnes would have been our coach. I don't blame Barnes for not leaving Texas, but the fact that he prolonged his decision showed that is wasn't an easy one for him to make.
Calapari on the other hand appears to have used State to up his salary at Memphis. However, I don't think it is good for Lee to have to explain everything or further comprimise his ability to perform a search at this level. I mean did any other AD come out right to the fans to announce every move they would be doing? 4/11/2006 8:16:46 PM |
pttyndal WINGS!!!!! 35217 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, unfortunately you can't help when the coaches you choose are just out for very large raises. C'est la vie. 4/11/2006 8:16:54 PM |
DSpear456 Veteran 306 Posts user info edit post |
So two down. Who should be next on the list? 4/11/2006 8:17:53 PM |
bigTHEW All American 7330 Posts user info edit post |
I don't know but I will leave that discussion to the speculation threads. I feel alot people are quick to blame Fowler for not landing a coach right now, when I don't see how that could be the case. 4/11/2006 8:19:45 PM |
whtmike2k All American 2504 Posts user info edit post |
hell from our standpoint right now, it looks like we're gettin played like a $2 whore. thats twice a big name has gotten a salary boost at his current job by being "interested" in us. if things are any different than this, ie calipari was all but at the signing table with Fowler before he backed out, i've yet to hear about it.
and don't tell me "my sources close to so and so said the athletics higher ups were really angered by calipari." i don't fucking care what your sources say, unless your source is Oblinger, Fowler or Murphy. 4/11/2006 8:20:05 PM |
pttyndal WINGS!!!!! 35217 Posts user info edit post |
lets go after Coach K and Roy and offer them $6million. Guess we should go ahead and help them get raises also. 4/11/2006 8:22:42 PM |
whtmike2k All American 2504 Posts user info edit post |
sheit, coach kommercial is liable to take a huge ass deal. as long as GM was part of the contract, or mastercard
i really do wonder how far down the list we end up before someone accepts a deal.
[Edited on April 11, 2006 at 8:32 PM. Reason : asdf] 4/11/2006 8:32:21 PM |
bigTHEW All American 7330 Posts user info edit post |
At this point if I were Fowler I would be going after a B list candidate like Gillispie or Tom Crean. I don't think going after an "A" lister at this point can be accepted. We tried to hit a home run, now let's just at least get to third base. 4/11/2006 8:35:21 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
I'd take Albert the drunk in downtown Raleigh for head coach at this point. 4/11/2006 8:41:04 PM |
DarkCloud New Recruit 30 Posts user info edit post |
It seems that Fred Barakat is an assistant ACC Commissioner and is pretty pissed about what happened with Calipari. I wonder how much the ACC plays a role in finding coaches?
http://www.850thebuzz.com/blog/?p=1205 4/12/2006 10:59:48 AM |
SebaZ Veteran 475 Posts user info edit post |
Lee drove them away...
[Edited on April 12, 2006 at 11:16 AM. Reason : #] 4/12/2006 11:15:28 AM |
ncWOLFsu Gottfather FTL 12586 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.statefansnation.com/index.php/archives/2006/04/12/free-advice/ 4/12/2006 11:25:09 AM |
Wolfpacker06 Suspended 5482 Posts user info edit post |
The problem is that Lee Folwer is acting like a boy-crazy middle school girl, going from one crush to the next. He goes all in every time only to get shot down each time. What he should be doing is stringing along the whole list simutaneously and only revealing his intended choice once they've agreed. This search has a major case of tunnel vision. Why weren't his people talking to five different coaches at once? Fowler needs to learn how to multi-task and keep the search private, then we wouldn't be the laughing stock of the NCAA like we are right now. 4/12/2006 11:39:53 AM |
bigTHEW All American 7330 Posts user info edit post |
I don't think so. Lee Fowler had his phone ringing from Calipari’s friends trying to get his name in the door while Fowler focused on Barnes. Calipari seemed to be claiming that he truly wanted to come to State, so I don’t blame him placing his focus on just Calipari the way he did. I doubt any other AD worth his money would have done it differently. I would think with coaches with as big of egos as these would find out that Fowler is networking with other coaches while talking to them they would pull out. 4/12/2006 11:52:45 AM |
ncWOLFsu Gottfather FTL 12586 Posts user info edit post |
yeah and he can't help it that we are lunatics that track private jet flights. it will be next to impossible to keep us from finding at least SOMETHING out about where we're at in the search. 4/12/2006 12:36:59 PM |
john kruk All American 5325 Posts user info edit post |
so now that we're looking at C-list coaches, I can't wait to see how Lee spins this one....
i used to think he was a good AD, but if it takes him a month to pull in a no-name, I can't help but be angry at his abilities. 4/20/2006 8:22:25 AM |
sober46an3 All American 47925 Posts user info edit post |
blah blah blah 4/20/2006 8:39:23 AM |
john kruk All American 5325 Posts user info edit post |
blah?
i'm just trying to imagine how the press conference will be 4/20/2006 8:49:26 AM |
bigTHEW All American 7330 Posts user info edit post |
Good to know it will be soley Lee's fault if that occurs. 4/20/2006 10:32:05 AM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
why do you guys keep posting these threads
Quote : | "whatever you said has probably already been said 1000 times in 1000 different threads
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just because you have an opinion of what is going on doesnt mean we need a new thread about it4/20/2006 10:44:34 AM |
bigTHEW All American 7330 Posts user info edit post |
It's not my fault the thread was revived 9 days later by another poster.
Anyway, this is a thread dedicated to Lee Fowler and his job about involving the search. Not a speculation on who will become the head coach or a rumor mill for who has been contacted or not. All the other threads revolve around those issues. 4/20/2006 10:58:37 AM |
SandSanta All American 22435 Posts user info edit post |
The problem is that everyone is speculating like hell with no new information.
Every day there's a new name and everyday we get closer to a press conference. 4/20/2006 1:47:17 PM |
Mr Grace All American 12412 Posts user info edit post |
im buying into the theory that its an a-list coach
this long for marshall, witt, etc would be really bad 4/20/2006 2:02:08 PM |
ben94gt All American 5084 Posts user info edit post |
they arent releasing anything now, and probably wont until after school is out so that the entire student population dosent storm Lee Fowlers office when they find out the new head coach is none other than Lee Fowler 4/20/2006 2:43:09 PM |
Mr Scrumples Suspended 61466 Posts user info edit post |
We're getting this Lon Kruger guy.
this sucks. 4/20/2006 2:53:57 PM |
kiljadn All American 44690 Posts user info edit post |
Barnes and Calipari are both coming
Co-Head Coaches.
I HAVE THIS ON GOOD AUTHORITY FROM A WELL PLACED SOURCE 4/20/2006 3:00:46 PM |
timswar All American 41050 Posts user info edit post |
the only thing he seems to have done well now is that he figured out how to keep the monkey's from getting any new information... other than that, he failed to get TWO people to accept jobs that would have paid over 2 million a year... frankly, that doesn't sound great...
i honestly feel that he was never serious about Barnes or Calipari, just trying to appease the fanbase and media by going for them... i'm interested to see who he gets, but if it's a Kruger type (no improvement over Sendek) then Fowler's head needs to be checked 4/20/2006 3:16:03 PM |