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"BMW has officially unveiled the new 2007 BMW 335i and 328i coupes, which arrive in U.S. showrooms this September. The 335 has a new 3 litre 300 horsepower inline six-cylinder with twin-turbochargers, high-precision fuel injection, and an all-aluminum crankcase, pushing the car to 60 mph in just 5.3 seconds. The 335i Coupe will be joined in the U.S. by the 230 horsepower 328i Coupe, which hits 60 mph in 6.2 seconds. In addition to the standard six-speed manual, both models will be offered with an available six-speed Steptronic automatic transmission. The 2007 3-Series coupe also includes the option of xDrive all-wheel drive for the first time ever in a BMW coupe. It will be available this fall in the 328xi Coupe. Adaptive Xenon headlights and Horizontal LED taillights are standard equipment."

Isn't 300 hp quite weak from a 3 litre TT V6 from a German manufacturer?

Considering that the IS350 and the G35 both produce 300+ hp from 3.5 litre V6's, that's quite weak.

Anyway, UK will get:

320i (tba)
320d (tba)
325i (218 hp)
330i (272 hp)
330d (231 hp)
335i (306 hp)

[US will only get 328i and 335i]


Anyway, it looks orders of magnitude better than the ugly sedan with its ugly front lamps and generic Kia'ish tail lamps. (even Kias look better now)

Some pictures below. INDEPTH description and more pictures at:

http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/04/21/2007-bmw-3-series-coupe-e92-335i-328i-official-release

http://www.worldcarfans.com/news.cfm/country/gcf/newsID/2060421.007/bmw/new-bmw-3-series-coupe-revealed-uk

http://www.fast-autos.net/vehicles/BMW/2007/335i/






















[Edited on April 22, 2006 at 5:22 PM. Reason : ]

4/22/2006 5:11:53 PM

looks nice

4/22/2006 5:30:08 PM

i like it


somehow the body lines do it for me on this one.

4/22/2006 5:42:50 PM

ridge on the side looks weird. idrive!! they need to fix that cup holder thing

[Edited on April 22, 2006 at 5:45 PM. Reason : the taper at the back borders on jelly bean territory]

4/22/2006 5:44:26 PM

I like it.

4/22/2006 5:49:43 PM

so, when they put a v8 in that body for the m3, how different will that be from the 6 series... not very

current 3 series: ~180 inches length, ~3300 lbs (with inline 6 engine - v8 will prob. weigh more)
current 6 series: ~190 inches length, ~3700 lbs with v8 engine

yeah yeah, the m3 is supposed to be a pure driver's car, stiff suspension, more aggressive styling, so on... but compared to the original they've lost focus. (original was a foot shorter than the current 3 series and about 500lbs less)

4/22/2006 5:56:42 PM

I will admit, it looks nice.

But this thread will probably open up another pandoras box of BMW brown-nosing, and flame wars.

4/22/2006 5:58:12 PM

I don't like the body lines on that at all, but the interior looks incredibly nice.

4/22/2006 6:09:45 PM

A BMW I like, and it also reminds me of a jaguar.

Real nice.

4/22/2006 6:13:25 PM

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"Isn't 300 hp quite weak from a 3 litre TT V6 from a German manufacturer?"

well its not some laggy ass subaru, i'm willing to bet it will be easy to get a lot more power from this motor.

4/22/2006 6:36:36 PM

really have hated how BMW has changed the 3 and 5 series in the past couple years but this is a great new look. Cant wait to see how the new M3 will look

4/22/2006 8:39:24 PM

almost looks DB7'ish from the side

4/22/2006 8:40:46 PM

Quote :

"Isn't 300 hp quite weak from a 3 litre TT V6 from a German manufacturer? "

300 from a 3 liter TT is awesome... if this were 1989 and we were talking about a 300zx twin turbo. 300 horses are not worth the bullshit that comes with twin turbos.

[Edited on April 22, 2006 at 9:54 PM. Reason : .]

4/22/2006 9:52:43 PM

^ray you are a fucking toolbag, not every twin turbo is as much of a piece of shit as a mazda rotary, OMG, max hp is 300, must be a pos, why dont you wait for the product to hit the market to judge. I guarantee its a shitton better than your family's kia's

4/22/2006 10:54:22 PM

'Tis an attractive car. Nicely done.

4/23/2006 12:10:10 AM

300+ hp and they can only squeeze out a 5.3 0-60

go on a diet you big ass porker

4/23/2006 2:09:01 AM

^It's a luxury car, not an engine with a shitty car around it

4/23/2006 2:12:06 AM

it def looks nice.

4/23/2006 2:19:34 AM

300 lb-ft @ 1400 rpm

you guys are idiots. peak hp isnt everything.

4/23/2006 2:55:42 AM

^what he said.

Quote :

"300+ hp and they can only squeeze out a 5.3 0-60"

I hope that wasn't a serious comment. You're right, 0-60 in 5.3 is unacceptably fucking slow, especially for a entry-level luxury car

[Edited on April 23, 2006 at 5:11 AM. Reason : .]

4/23/2006 4:53:36 AM

is it tiptronic or the smg they have for the 335

4/23/2006 10:45:52 AM

the front looks almost exactly like a 6 series to me



I like the rear end, though

4/23/2006 12:03:45 PM

^^^how entry level is it? The 335i will be at least $45k.

I know the 3 Series is "entry level" but as far as I'm concerned thats for the base models only.

4/23/2006 12:08:46 PM

ugly as shit

4/23/2006 1:13:01 PM

^says the dsm guy

4/23/2006 1:24:06 PM

looks damn good... way better than the current

4/23/2006 2:19:28 PM

damnit i liked it better when BMW's werent considered straight up "luxury cars".


long live teh e30 ; )

4/23/2006 2:19:36 PM

wow, that's gorgeous

just oozes class

4/23/2006 2:26:43 PM

looks like it just oozes old 5-series

even on the inside

what's the point of making the 3 series that big?

4/23/2006 3:03:08 PM

Quote :

"Isn't 300 hp quite weak from a 3 litre TT V6 from a German manufacturer"

i read an article about this engine and how BMW could easily make more power from it but they were concerned about the outrage current E46 M3 owners would make since they are coming w/ 333 hp. they didn't want the new 3 series to have more power then the last gen M3.

4/24/2006 9:38:42 AM

the rear tail lights arent very bmw-ish anymore :/

4/24/2006 9:57:17 AM

looks too clean and luxurious. i prefer the dirty and angry BMW look, where kidney grills are not as round.

4/24/2006 10:30:03 AM

i always heard that the BMW engineers were dead set against turbos.. guess they changed their minds..

4/24/2006 10:37:55 AM

^ya i think the turbo bmw before this one was in 70's

4/24/2006 10:41:24 AM

meh the front bumper is to busy and passive looking. i bet the m will be better.

4/24/2006 10:57:20 AM

^^negative, bmw has used turbo diesels for quite some time.

my friend's 324td in france


M21
straight 6 SOHC 12V Diesel. 1983-1991 126kg 278lbs
Used in 324td, 524d/td
2.4 (112bhp), 2.4 Turbo (115bhp)

M41
Straight 4 SOHC 8V Diesel. 1995-on. 108kg 238lbs
Used in E36 318tdS
1.7 Turbo (90bhp)

M51
Straight 6 SOHC 12V Diesel. 1995-on. 132kg 291lbs
Used in E36 325td/S, E34 and E39
2.5 Turbo (115bhp), 2.5 Intercooled Turbo (143bhp)

M47
Straight 4 DOHC 16V Diesel. 1998-on. 117kg 258lbs
Used in E46 320d
2.0 Turbo (136bhp)

M55
Straight 6 DOHC 24V Diesel. 2000-on. 132kg 291lbs
Used in E46 and E39s.
2.5 Turbo (170bhp), 3.0 Turbo (183bhp)

M67
V8 DOHC 32V Diesel. 1999-on. 192kg 423lbs
Used in E38 740d
4.0 Turbo (245bhp)

[Edited on April 24, 2006 at 11:05 AM. Reason : pic]

4/24/2006 11:02:25 AM

sorry, i meant on gas engines... something about how they dont believe that is how power (performance) is supposed to be made.. die hard n/a... but i may be wrong...

4/24/2006 11:21:49 AM

^ wasn't the old 745 actually a turbo as well? not the 4.5L the name would have you believe.


i think this new 3 series looks really good. i'm glad they didn't fuck it up like they did the 5 and 7 series.

4/24/2006 11:24:39 AM

3.5l turbo, i believe

4/24/2006 11:41:13 AM

interesting...

4/24/2006 11:45:01 AM

yeah, seems like they've always preferred high compression to forced induction in their gas engines.

4/24/2006 11:45:27 AM

Quote :

"the rear tail lights arent very bmw-ish anymore "

they are almost 100% like the 7-series tail lights.

and they are good.

4/24/2006 8:04:41 PM

Quote :

"300+ hp and they can only squeeze out a 5.3 0-60 go on a diet you big ass porker"

i guarantee you that care is VERY conservatively tuned. Just wait for any kind of software or chip to be on the market for it. look at what a chipped Audi 1.8t can make with just a chip. I wouldn't doubt with software this car will be easily competitive with the planned e92 m3.

4/24/2006 10:10:08 PM

^e90?

4/24/2006 10:20:10 PM

The whole car isn't horrible, interior is pretty well done.

Just isn't a BMW. God I hope they come back to their senses in the next few years.

4/24/2006 10:24:40 PM

Quote :

"A BMW I like"

4/24/2006 10:40:57 PM

Quote :

"sorry, i meant on gas engines... something about how they dont believe that is how power (performance) is supposed to be made.. die hard n/a... but i may be wrong..."

for the most part, the last turbo bmw was a 2002 (right?). i believe the government pitched a fit about how it was 'not what the country needed at that time'

[Edited on April 24, 2006 at 11:55 PM. Reason : *]

4/24/2006 11:55:09 PM

Women BMW drivers of the general population: 88%

Metrosexual men BMW drivers of the same: 12%


Kinda hard to believe you guys are so overwhelmed by a girls car. Why not go get a Cabrio and put a turbo in it? You know, make it a manly car

4/24/2006 11:57:35 PM

dear slut... Laggy turbos are just turbos built to be more efficient on the top end not the bottom.
(either that or they are poorly designed non bb non water cooled turbos...)
ooohh wait... (i'll just stop there)


a wrx isn't just blowing hot air @6500rpm its still makin power.

all i care is.... is the short block beefy ?


[Edited on April 25, 2006 at 12:19 AM. Reason : ]

4/25/2006 12:18:20 AM

Quote :

"short block"

an I6?

4/25/2006 12:20:12 AM