TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
giving me hell for "assuming without just cause" that he was on roids...playing the bullshit "innocent until proven guilty" card...then its exposed that he told the grand jury that he used steroids, though "unknowingly"...where are all the naive suckers now?
5/10/2006 1:16:01 AM |
Beardawg61 Trauma Specialist 15492 Posts user info edit post |
Hate to say it but the man has a point. 5/10/2006 1:16:53 AM |
wolfAApack All American 9980 Posts user info edit post |
bonds is gay 5/10/2006 1:18:12 AM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Juan Pierre was my FAVORITE player tonight even though he is a Cub!
Fuck Bonds. Most of us baseball fans have known this for while now. 5/10/2006 1:19:50 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
not that macgwire and sosa and others arent probably just as guilty
but BONDS ADMITTED TO THE GRAND JURY THAT HE USED STEROIDS...no more speculation now...Pete Rose would've been in the Hall before he was confirmed to have gambled on games...so what if Bonds pre-99 might've already earned a HOF spot 5/10/2006 1:22:06 AM |
Beardawg61 Trauma Specialist 15492 Posts user info edit post |
I think all the recent ones are guilty as sin, and there should be an * beside each one. 5/10/2006 1:34:27 AM |
jglandwe All American 723 Posts user info edit post |
I support Barry Bonds. 5/10/2006 1:44:26 AM |
Probasesteal All American 10307 Posts user info edit post |
i support ROIDS, who wants to shoot up? 5/10/2006 2:22:56 AM |
Konami All American 10855 Posts user info edit post |
I hate Bonds* as much as anyone, but how in the living hell does this deserve its own thread?
[OLD] 5/10/2006 2:36:00 AM |
Beardawg61 Trauma Specialist 15492 Posts user info edit post |
Get off the juice , man. 5/10/2006 3:01:47 AM |
markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit post |
I'm not sure who actually claimed he didn't use steroids, but he played by the rules MLB laid out. It isn't like he was the only one, or in a small minority of players who used. He was the best hitter of the steroid era...no better, no worse. You always have to judge people against different eras, be it due to drugs, corking, changing the ball, or difference in talent. It's stupid to single him out because he was a better hitter than all the other guys using steroids. 5/10/2006 6:15:10 AM |
vonjordan3 AIR 43669 Posts user info edit post |
the man has no point because barry bonds is a cheater 5/10/2006 7:28:48 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Don't blame us for your innate misunderstanding of our argument.
No one was saying he didn't do it because it hasn't been proven. Merely, that you can't punish him until it is proven he broke MLB rules at the time they were in place. You get so pissed off at the site of Barry Bonds though that you just ignore our entire position.
Btw, I hope he breaks the HR record just to piss a bunch of people off.. I'd laugh. 5/10/2006 9:02:06 AM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
they should pass out * flyers at ever away game he has
i bet people would hold that shit up when he comes to bat 5/10/2006 9:03:57 AM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
It doesn't matter if it wasn't against MLB rules. Steroids have been illegal since the early 90s. Quit making that as an excuse for Bonds. He knew he was in the wrong when he used. 5/10/2006 9:07:03 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Then arrest him. If MLB COULD do anything to make his numbers go away they would. Selig hates him and the actions they are taking now make that pretty clear -- (i.e.- no MLB event planned).
I'm not defending the guy. I've disliked him for a long time. Show me how MLB CAN punish him for using at the time? If I'm wrong I'll freely admit it but I just don't see anyway how they can do anything for using steroids at a time they weren't a MLB banned substance. Please point me to something that shows I'm wrong.. 5/10/2006 9:10:36 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
hahaha dont even try to say you're not defending him
and this thread is directed at all the naive idiots who basically swore up and down that bonds never juiced and that all his muscle mass and head size gain was natural from protein supplements
bunch of suckers 5/10/2006 9:20:04 AM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
why couldn't they have listed steroids as a Schedule II drug. I know the baseball drug policy had any Schedule II drug as banned. 5/10/2006 9:22:22 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
As bad as it sounds before the heat came down on the Steroids, MLB was complicit. They knew post strike that they need something to re-energize the sport in the non-traditional markets and the long ball was what could do it.. 5/10/2006 9:23:51 AM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
chicks dig the long ball 5/10/2006 9:28:37 AM |
BearWhoDrive All American 5385 Posts user info edit post |
Pitchers should start going after his knees. There should be no penalties for doing so. Bitch wears more amour to the plate than the cast of Medieval Times anyway. 5/10/2006 9:30:08 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
Bonds can't hold his breath for 8 minutes and 50 seconds either...his head wouldnt even fit in David Blaine's bubble 5/10/2006 9:31:27 AM |
SipnOnSyzurp All American 8923 Posts user info edit post |
barry bonds is my favorite baseball player. 5/10/2006 9:32:59 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
Babe Ruth hit more homeruns in less at bats 5/10/2006 9:41:18 AM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
the only performance enhancing drugs babe ruth needed were whiskey, steak, and penicillin 5/10/2006 9:46:40 AM |
SipnOnSyzurp All American 8923 Posts user info edit post |
i hope he hits 800 homeruns.
white people's heads will explode. 5/10/2006 9:48:23 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
i hope he hits a million homeruns
I BETCHA I COULD THROW A FOOTBALL OVER THOSE MOUNTAINS 5/10/2006 9:49:04 AM |
SipnOnSyzurp All American 8923 Posts user info edit post |
I BETCHA BABE RUTH COULD HAVE 5/10/2006 9:50:06 AM |
msb2ncsu All American 14033 Posts user info edit post |
The greatest comment on this topic in Sports Talk history goes to Stein:
Quote : | "Barry Bonds' biggest crime is that in a time when everyone did steroids, he happened to be an asshole." |
http://www.thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=392692&page=1#84108265/10/2006 10:11:46 AM |
timswar All American 41050 Posts user info edit post |
when he passes ruth, i'll be happy for him... and i think taht whatever park he's at should do something in his honor... is that supporting enough? 5/10/2006 10:17:31 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
LET'S POSTPONE THE MLB SEASON WHEN HE REACHES 2ND PLACE CAUSE AMERICA ONLY CARES ABOUT 2ND PLACE 5/10/2006 10:27:25 AM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | ""Barry Bonds' biggest crime is that in a time when everyone did steroids, he happened to be an asshole."" |
it's a good quote..... but you happen to be in the wrong place, or you happen to get lucky, it implies a chance occurence. you cant happen to be an asshole, its a choice, and bonds chooses to be a dick.
i personally think that he could care less if he passes aaron, just as long as he tops ruth.5/10/2006 10:42:29 AM |
timswar All American 41050 Posts user info edit post |
... i think we're at a misunderstanding here... by "something in his honor", i mean flash something on the billboard... make an announcement while he runs the bases, maybe let his wife and kid on the field for a quick hug...
i don't mean to halt the game for 10 to 15 minute while he basks in 2nd place... this is more in recognition of him passing an "icon" than him making 2nd place...
frankly, i find the "don't celebrate 2nd place" arguement to be very lame, especially since him passing several others was noted by the MLB... it just looks like a very sad excuse for people to use when they don't want to admit that they just hate Barry Bonds... it's ok, you can hate him, nobody's going to blame you for it... but quit hiding behind bs and just say it 5/10/2006 10:43:57 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
i dislike Bonds
and if all you're talking about is flashing something up on the scoreboard when he passes Ruth, then sure, thats fine...but why do you need his wife and kid on the field for a quick hug? did Duke let JJ's parents on the floor when he became the ACC's second leading all time scorer?
the only thing lamer than my "dont celebrate 2nd place" argument is ESPN's perpetual bonds nut riding about every fucking homer since 700
if somebody in the NBA scores more career points than Chamberlain is it gonna be Sportscenter's top story for 3 weeks? No because they'll still have like 8,000 points until they pass Kareem 5/10/2006 11:02:37 AM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
When Kobe became, what, 2nd or 3rd for most points scored in a single game he got a lot of hype for about 2 weeks. 5/10/2006 11:10:49 AM |
designisgod Starting Lineup 95 Posts user info edit post |
could the same be said about Duke Lacrosse? 5/10/2006 11:37:39 AM |
designisgod Starting Lineup 95 Posts user info edit post |
that is to say that no one wanted to believe they were guilty, and immediately chanted innocent until proven guilty. 5/10/2006 11:39:45 AM |
PvtJoker All American 15000 Posts user info edit post |
right here
what's up 5/10/2006 11:49:47 AM |
skumstea All American 541 Posts user info edit post |
I Support Bonds, greatest player I have ever seen, up until Pujols. 5/10/2006 12:05:07 PM |
billyboy All American 3174 Posts user info edit post |
I don't like Bonds, and yes I think Pujols will take care of business and reach the HR record later on, but Bonds get the hatred treatment, while Jason Giambi is considered a hero to many. Remember, he also admitted to using steroids. He also got comeback player of the year last year. 5/10/2006 12:10:49 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
i dont like giambi either
but for what its worth, he admitted his steroid use 5/10/2006 12:24:59 PM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
pujols > * 5/10/2006 12:29:14 PM |
vonjordan3 AIR 43669 Posts user info edit post |
doesn't matter now, people will always remember he cheated 5/10/2006 12:53:27 PM |
d7freestyler Sup, Brahms 23935 Posts user info edit post |
i hope he breaks the record so people will shut up about it. 5/10/2006 1:07:59 PM |
PvtJoker All American 15000 Posts user info edit post |
I hope he plays 10 more years, hits 1,246 homeruns, and continues to antagonize the goddamned media
and for you fuckers that think that game (note--baseball is my first love) ever had integrity, go fuck yourselves, or get a quick history lesson on the game. 5/10/2006 1:16:13 PM |
billyboy All American 3174 Posts user info edit post |
I think we can say for sure he will not be playing for 10 more years. 5/10/2006 1:21:12 PM |
PvtJoker All American 15000 Posts user info edit post |
oh of course not
that dude is beat the fuck up
still one of the greatest hitters to ever hold a stick 5/10/2006 1:24:21 PM |
Sleik All American 11177 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i personally think that he could care less if he passes aaron, just as long as he tops ruth." |
COULDN'T care less5/10/2006 2:22:20 PM |
SipnOnSyzurp All American 8923 Posts user info edit post |
ANTIHEROES FOR LIFE 5/10/2006 2:23:41 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i hope he hits 800 homeruns.
white people's heads will explode." |
how is this a race issue?5/10/2006 2:39:00 PM |