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Gøldengirl
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Anyone else following this story?

He's on the FBI ten most wanted.


[Edited on May 11, 2006 at 1:52 AM. Reason : pic]

5/11/2006 1:50:47 AM

joe_schmoe
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yeah, a bit.

but i did not realize what an inbred-looking fuck he is.

5/11/2006 1:54:39 AM

joe_schmoe
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I was in Arizona last week. I wanted to go visit Colorado Junction, but my wife wouldnt let me.

guess she was worried about the competition.

5/11/2006 1:56:02 AM

Gøldengirl
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CNN is covering it right now.

5/11/2006 1:57:46 AM

joe_schmoe
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Jeffs and his Mormon splinter group have been on the fringe of the MSM for a few years.

5/11/2006 2:01:37 AM

Gøldengirl
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I just was exposed to this b/c of cnn.
I find it intresting, apparently he's rasist too.(go figure)

5/11/2006 2:05:09 AM

joe_schmoe
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^ the entire Mormon church (church of Latter Day Saints) is racist to the core. In that respect, Jeffs is right in line with the larger, more popular version of the cult-religion

5/11/2006 2:07:52 AM

Gøldengirl
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I guess i dunno much about mormon religion. The thing that puzzles me is why they believe they can become gods, b/c christianity is focused on one God and one God alone.

5/11/2006 2:11:52 AM

joe_schmoe
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because Mormons are not really christian. it's a cult which is based loosely on Xianty.




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5/11/2006 2:21:23 AM

joe_schmoe
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Here's part of a book chapter summarizing how the Mormon church operates, written by a woman who had been a member for 25 years before breaking out. The book, A Mormon Oddessy, is linked at a site for "Recovery from Mormonism" : http://www.exmormon.org/

Quote :
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CHAPTER V

FEAR, FAITH, OR LOVE?

Mind Control

The Pattern is a method of fear and control that the Mormon Church uses on its members, i.e. "do as we say or you will not be with your family in the hereafter." The Double-Bind is the Church's way of twisting reality into fabrication, i.e. "it's not the Priesthood blessing that failed to make you well, it's because your faith wasn't strong enough" or "God just wants to test your faith." The Pattern, fueled by the Double-Bind, turns the real world of logic and reason into an upside-down-world of subjugation and fear.

In the real world, nature provides us with an open system of trial and error, awareness and learning. Exercising our own bodies, senses, minds and self-direction allows us to reach for the stars, to see a greater range of possibilities, and fulfill ourselves by being true to ourselves. In contrast The Pattern, or upside-down world of Mormonism, took away our individuality. We became part of the mass known as The Latter-day Saints. We were instructed several times a week what to think, what to believe, how to behave, what to read, how to dress and how to spend our money. The list was never-ending and all-inclusive.

The Church leadership has been called The Binder, since they bound us heart and soul to the perpetual requirements of being a good Mormon. And we, of course, became The Bound as we gradually gave up questioning the doctrine and history of the Church that seemed vague and troublesome, and tried to concentrate on doing all we could to be worthy of the larger, eternal blessings.

The Double-Bind is then reinforced by alternate contradictions that confuse and deny the Bound their ability to think or feel rationally. Following is a list of some examples of these contradictions

Example 1) "It is impossible for a man to be saved in ignorance." (D&C 131: 6) "The glory of God is intelligence, or, in other words, light and truth." (D&C 93: 36) "Now this does not mean that individuals should not do research and make discoveries and write articles. What it does mean is that what they write should be faith promoting and where doctrines are concerned, should be in harmony with that which comes from the head of the church. You will remain silent on those [doctrines] where differences exist between you and the Brethren. This is the course of safety." (Bruce McConkie's letter of rebuke to Professor Eugene England, Feb. 19, 1981. For the full text of this letter, go to http://www.mrm.org/articles/mcconkies-letter.html.)

Example 2) "But I have commanded you to bring up your children in light and truth" (D&C 93:40). "Learn to do as you are told...if you are told by your leader to do a thing, do it, none of your business whether it is right or wrong." (J of D, vol. 6, p. 31) The crucial point is reached when the opposites of logical and illogical merge as one. This is followed by the complete fusing of the Bound to the Binder in a pseudo voluntary union of mind. The end result is the complete loss of the individual identity of the Bound.

What The Pattern does, in effect, is turn the independent rational mind around so that the Bound reflects only the mind of the Binder, as in a mirror. It creates a whole new orientation of the world, a conversion from the logical to the illogical -- the real to the unreal -- the truth to lies.
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5/11/2006 3:01:39 AM

Gøldengirl
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bttt

5/12/2006 3:59:28 PM

spöokyjon

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Big love.

5/12/2006 7:46:16 PM

Jontorious
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If you are looking for a stellar book about the Mormon church and just how wacked-out it can be, check out
Under the Banner of Heaven by John Krakauer (sp?)

Awesome book about justification of murder and polygamy in the Mormon Church.

5/12/2006 9:07:12 PM

Shivan Bird
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Quote :
"the Church's way of twisting reality into fabrication, i.e. "it's not the Priesthood blessing that failed to make you well, it's because your faith wasn't strong enough" or "God just wants to test your faith.""


Welcome to religion.

5/13/2006 12:04:57 AM

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