Based on Antonia Fraser's book about the ill-fated Archduchess of Austria and later Queen of France, 'Marie Antoinette' tells the story of the most misunderstood and abused woman in history, from her birth in Imperial Austria to her later life in France.

God, I want to see this. And not just because Kirstin Dunst's ass is in the trailer. That only accounts for, at most, 35% of why I want to see this. Just reading about it, I was unsure, but the trailers are very sofiacoppolaey.

Strong points:
1. Sofia Coppola.
2. Jason Schwartzman.
3. Kirsten Dunst.
4. Possibly awesome soundtrack.
5. Badass teaser: http://www.apple.com/trailers/sony_pictures/marieantoinette/
6. Badass trailer: http://quicktime.allocine.fr/nmedia/18/36/20/98/18603777_fa2_vost_hd.mov
7. Sofia fucking Coppola.


p.s. There's an older thread, but it's dead.

5/19/2006 12:17:55 AM

if it has the schwartz, i'm in

5/19/2006 12:30:39 AM

By the way, you know the reception Snakes on a Plane has received on the internet?

This is getting the opposite of that.

5/19/2006 12:34:39 AM

at least she is not fat

5/19/2006 12:50:07 AM

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"if it has the schwartz rip torn, i'm in"

5/19/2006 1:08:20 AM

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"And not just because Kirstin Dunst's ass is in the trailer."

You can't fool me with this "hey I like movies" façade; I know better!

5/19/2006 1:10:53 AM

That Chemical Brothers gymnastics video she's in freaks me out.

I am torn about this, btw. It could be fantastic or a train wreck. The trailer is fucking great, though (New Order, get it?).

5/19/2006 1:18:33 AM

i watched troy the other day and was definitely thinking rose byrne needed more work

woo-hoo

5/19/2006 10:55:33 AM

I am reading the book its based on right now. Very thorough, one of the better biographies I have read on my favorite historical figure.

But Kirsten Drunkst?

Why couldn't they pick an actress with class, or at least one who could pull off on Austrian or French accent? From what I have seen in the trailer, she speaks with an American accent, which is thoroughly disappointing.

And how will Schwartzman match up to Louis XVI in terms of size? That must be one hell of a body suit. Perhaps they borrowed the fat bastard one from Austin Powers?

I am sure it will be great and win tons of awards, but what a horrible miscasting. Dunst couldnt act her way out of a paper bag, in my opinion. Let's not forget her great films such as Lifetime's "Fifteen and Pregnant" or "Bring It On". I really hope she amazes me, because the one Spiderman movie I did see that was recent still was disappointing.

[Edited on May 20, 2006 at 1:51 AM. Reason : spelling]

5/20/2006 1:50:38 AM

looks like coppola is trying to present this film like an 80s teen-comedy (these people were young when they got married)

5/20/2006 1:56:11 AM

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"if it has the schwartz, i'm in"

5/20/2006 2:32:58 AM

^^^lets also not forget the virgin fucking suicides

you do realize most actors and actresses are just trained fucking monkeys and can only deliver what is coaxed out of them

are you really basing your opinions of this girl off of performances in films directed by Peyton Reed and whoever Lifetime digs up?

5/20/2006 2:41:20 AM

That trailer is surprisingly sexy for two people who didn't have sex for a long time after marriage.

5/20/2006 3:10:17 AM

OMG KIRSTIN DRUNKST LOLOLOL

5/20/2006 8:16:06 AM

^^ says who?
i mean, just because they didn't have sex with each other for a long time after marriage doesn't mean they didn't have sex...

5/20/2006 9:11:04 AM

if kevin shields as an affiliation, however small it may be, with this film

then I am in

5/20/2006 1:48:47 PM

bring it on was a good movie

5/20/2006 1:56:35 PM

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"OMG KIRSTIN DRUNKST LOLOLOL"

yeah, thats a funny choice

so every sofia coppola movie has a naked blond in it?

5/20/2006 1:59:23 PM

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"^^ says who? i mean, just because they didn't have sex with each other for a long time after marriage doesn't mean they didn't have sex..."

I know they did, but they didn't have kids until 7 years after being married. Judging by the birth control of the time, I wouldn't imagine that means there was a lot of shacking up going on. They didn't even have sex on their wedding night because nobody had told them what to do on it. I just think portraying her as some kind of sexy vixen is not applicable at all.

[Edited on May 20, 2006 at 2:07 PM. Reason : .]

5/20/2006 2:05:07 PM

Pulling out can work wonders.

5/20/2006 4:53:44 PM

Seven years of that, though? Like, why not have kids? Didn't they need an heir?

You all just want Kirsten naked.

[Edited on May 20, 2006 at 5:23 PM. Reason : .]

5/20/2006 5:23:26 PM

Who doesn't wanna see Kirsten naked?

This Natalie person seems to think this is supposed to be a period piece. Seems to me that it's more of an atmosphere piece that happens to be about people who wear funny clothes.

5/20/2006 6:11:32 PM

Like Blade Runner!

5/20/2006 6:31:18 PM

I will swallow my hatred of Kirsten Dunst and see this, probably. Only because I like Marie Antoinette and I want to see if they're fairly accurate with the depiction of the period.

5/21/2006 12:30:38 AM

Hey Jon, my opnion on this movie "Let them eat cake. fag ,go watch a man movie and repent.

5/21/2006 12:40:44 AM

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"Seven years of that, though? Like, why not have kids? Didn't they need an heir?"

its possible to have several miscarriages in that time frame very early on in pregnancy before you even realize you are pregnant

5/21/2006 1:08:36 AM

All the online research I've seen notes that they didn't have sex for those seven years due to his inability to get an erection. And that had to suck.

5/21/2006 3:16:36 AM

wow

[Edited on May 21, 2006 at 4:46 AM. Reason : i'm tired]

5/21/2006 4:45:32 AM

they =/= her

5/21/2006 1:41:23 PM

True. WHAT A SAUCY LITTLE MINX!

5/21/2006 4:40:20 PM

This shit is totally going to get me into the New Order phase I never had.

5/23/2006 12:25:04 PM

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"Why couldn't they pick an actress with class, or at least one who could pull off on Austrian or French accent? From what I have seen in the trailer, she speaks with an American accent, which is thoroughly disappointing."

are you seriously saying that this would be more realistic if she spoke ENGLISH with a different accent?


i mean, correct me if i am wrong, but isnt speaking ENGLISH different from speaking FRENCH no matter what accent is used?

if you are in paris and you say "how much is that eiffel tower replica?" and they dont understand you, you cant just repeat it in a french accent.

5/23/2006 12:32:16 PM

HOW MAHCH EEZ THEES EIFFEL TOWEIRE REPLEECAH, OH HO HO?

5/23/2006 12:33:54 PM

ah oui oui il coute sept franc

5/23/2006 12:35:35 PM

its just like spanish

instead of adding "El -" or "-O" to whatever word you need

you just add "- ahn hah hah"

thats french, ahn hah hah

5/23/2006 2:08:53 PM

Also, you have to be smoking.

5/23/2006 2:11:46 PM

FRENCH GUARD: Allo! Who is eet?
ARTHUR: It is King Arthur, and these are my Knights of the Round Table. Who's castle is this?
FRENCH GUARD: This is the castle of my master, Guy de Loimbard.
ARTHUR: Go and tell your master that we have been charged by God with a sacred quest. If he will give us food and shelter for the night, he can join us
in our quest for the Holy Grail.
FRENCH GUARD: Well, I'll ask him, but I don't think he'll be very keen. Uh, he's already got one, you see.
ARTHUR: What?
GALAHAD: He says they've already got one!
ARTHUR: Are you sure he's got one?
FRENCH GUARD: Oh, yes. It's very nice-a. (I told him we already got one.)
FRENCH GUARDS: [chuckling]
ARTHUR: Well, u-- um, can we come up and have a look?
FRENCH GUARD: Of course not! You are English types-a!
ARTHUR: Well, what are you, then?
FRENCH GUARD: I'm French! Why do think I have this outrageous accent, you silly king-a?!
GALAHAD: What are you doing in England?
FRENCH GUARD: Mind your own business!
ARTHUR: If you will not show us the Grail, we shall take your castle by force!
FRENCH GUARD: You don't frighten us, English pig-dogs! Go and boil your bottom, sons of a silly person. I blow my nose at you, so-called Arthur
King, you and all your silly English k-nnnnniggets. Thpppppt! Thppt! Thppt!
GALAHAD: What a strange person.
ARTHUR: Now look here, my good man--
FRENCH GUARD: I don't wanna talk to you no more, you empty headed animal food trough wiper! I fart in your general direction! Your mother was a
hamster and your father smelt of elderberries!
GALAHAD: Is there someone else up there we could talk to?
FRENCH GUARD: No. Now, go away, or I shall taunt you a second time-a!
[sniff]
ARTHUR: Now, this is your last chance. I've been more than reasonable.
FRENCH GUARD: (Fetchez la vache.)
OTHER FRENCH GUARD: Quoi?
FRENCH GUARD: (Fetchez la vache!)

5/23/2006 2:16:08 PM

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"'Marie Antoinette', which had been expected to be a strong contender for the Palme d'Or (best picture) at the Cannes Film Festival, was booed yesterday by audiences after its premiere. The movie, starring Kirsten Dunst and directed by Sofia Coppola, chronicles the life of the 14-year-old princess from her arrival in the French court to her impending downfall during the initial days of the French Revolution. The few very early reviews are not kind. Breitbart says: "...despite sumptuous sets and costumes and a rollicking rock'n'roll soundtrack, the film is a disappointing and unconvincing story that prompted sniggers at points, and boos which drowned out the scattered applause at the end." Time Out London says: "Coppola's film may give fashion fans and music video heads cause to celebrate, but it will leave anyone looking for a strong perspective on the life of Marie Antoinette severely disappointed." Thanks to a weak gag-reflex, it took me 4 hours to read 3 articles about Kirsten Dunst, but I think I got the gist of it: she's made yet another unwatchable movie that will die at the box office. And Coppola is great, but the movie is described as, "kind of like "The O.C." set in Versailles". Which I guess means it's about how brooding bad boys who are running from their past get chicks. As if I needed a movie to remind me of that, baby."

[Edited on May 24, 2006 at 11:34 AM. Reason : a]

5/24/2006 11:33:53 AM

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"she's made yet another unwatchable movie that will die at the box office"

Yeah, I definitely give a shit what this guy thinks.

5/24/2006 11:43:24 AM

well that last paragraph was the only one that was his opinion


but yes he really, really hates kirsten dunst for things like parking in handicapped spots and saying that a better choice in the spiderman story line would be to kill spiderman and let mary jane live to continue the series with a new spider baby.

http://wwtdd.com/index.php?type=cat&name=more%20Kirsten%20Dunst

5/24/2006 12:18:18 PM

I don't give a shit about what Kirstin Dunst does in her personal life. She's not a scientologist, so she's way better off than half of Hollywood. She's been in some really good movies, and to refer to her films as "unwatchable" and saying they "will die at the box office" is just kind of stupid.

5/24/2006 4:07:18 PM

whoa whoa dont shoot the messenger

the first post was just to show the reception the movie had, all but the last paragraph is relevant fact. nobody had a problem posting similar info about da vinci code.

the 2nd post was merely to show you that, yes, the guy who posted that IS biased but that doestn change the factual info in the first post.

5/24/2006 4:17:48 PM

Yes, but good stuff gets booed at Cannes all the time. It could go either way. *shrug*

5/24/2006 4:32:55 PM

^ i agree.

in fact i made a post stating a similar belief in another thread and jon gave me a rolleye

but whatever

i guess misplaced anger is abound

5/24/2006 4:35:02 PM

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"i was discussing this today. the fact that the cannes audience booed it doesnt mean it wont still make a ton of money. cannes is meant to be a showcase for "films" and i am fairly sure da vinci code is a "movie" not a "film.""

That is the post I ed at. I don't think anybody besides you didn't realize what I was talking about.

Hint: It had nothing to do with the first two sentences.

5/24/2006 4:37:22 PM

my statement was correct. while i did not explain myself completely you of all people should understand that there is a difference b/w something that is made as a "movie" (like MI3) and something that is made as a film (like this one). it may be a cheesy way to state it , but it is true.


BUT ANYWAY

i have somehow managed to hijack your thread

BACK TO MARIE ANTOINETTE DISCUSSIONS

5/24/2006 4:46:29 PM

ha

the critics hated it

by recent logic

that means it will make MAD CASH in the first weekend

5/24/2006 11:16:04 PM

amazing how hating on certain 'trendy' things has become 'trendy'

5/25/2006 10:24:42 AM

It's been trendy to hate on what's trendy for longer than you or I have been alive.

5/25/2006 10:25:42 AM

yeah, if you think thats a recent development

it just means you were a square most of your life

AN L-7 SQUARE

5/25/2006 10:27:09 AM