http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=14965

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"North American Union to Replace USA? by Jerome R. Corsi Posted May 19, 2006 Human Events Online (The National Conservative Weekly Since 1944) President Bush is pursuing a globalist agenda to create a North American Union, effectively erasing our borders with both Mexico and Canada. This was the hidden agenda behind the Bush administration's true open borders policy. Secretly, the Bush administration is pursuing a policy to expand NAFTA to include Canada, setting the stage for North American Union designed to encompass the U.S., Canada, and Mexico. What the Bush administration truly wants is the free, unimpeded movement of people across open borders with Mexico and Canada. President Bush intends to abrogate U.S. sovereignty to the North American Union, a new economic and political entity which the President is quietly forming, much as the European Union has formed. The blueprint President Bush is following was laid out in a 2005 report entitled "Building a North American Community" published by the left-of-center Council on Foreign Relations (CFR). The CFR report connects the dots between the Bush administration's actual policy on illegal immigration and the drive to create the North American Union"

Bush promoting open borders and a "globalist agenda"? A North American Union? Hidden agendas? The Council on Foreign Relations is involved? I thought this was all just "wacko conspiracy theory talk."

Look. THAT IS A CONSERVATIVE WEEKLY PUBLICATION. The homepage of their website has advertisements for Ann Coulter's book and for Newt Gingrich.

No use in hiding the truth any longer. It's blatantly obvious that Bush is an open-border promoting traitor who's sold out America. And what does that say when even conservative publications are turning on Bush? The massive illegal immigration problem and Bush's amnesty plan has now sent everyday conservatives over the edge. The false left/right paradigm is falling apart.

5/19/2006 1:28:41 PM

I guess the National Guard soldiers that he is sending to the Mexican border are really to help them get across

5/19/2006 1:31:41 PM

yeah

cause he has the power to do that

DO YOU EVEN READ BEFORE YOU POST

5/19/2006 1:35:28 PM

hey, do like I do

5/19/2006 1:35:51 PM

i don't even know what "do like i do" means

5/19/2006 1:36:16 PM

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"I guess the National Guard soldiers that he is sending to the Mexican border are really to help them get across "

That's a blatant cheap political ploy used by Bush to try to con his conservative base into supporting his amnesty plan. It was even reported in the MSM that Bush told Vicente Fox that putting National Guard on the border would only be temporary. It's a big joke. It's smoke and mirrors.

You have to be a totally brainwashed Bush worshipper to believe that Bush is really tough on immigration. HE CALLED THE MINUTEMAN "VIGILANTES." HE'S PROPOSING BLANKET AMNESTY FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS. THE BORDER HAS BEEN LEFT WIDE OPEN FOR ABOUT 5 YEARS NOW, EVEN WHEN THEY TELL US THAT BIN LADEN AND AL-CIA-DUH BOOGEYMEN COULD KILL US AT ANY MOMENT.

5/19/2006 1:41:51 PM

Just out of curiosity, what would be the obvious, inherent evil in forming a larger Union, assuming our rights stayed the same?

5/19/2006 1:44:28 PM

i would be 100% for a North American Union

5/19/2006 1:45:38 PM

So the propaganda is actually working? You're buying throwing away our national sovereingty for something approaching global government? Unfrigginbelievable.

5/19/2006 1:47:15 PM

and who exactly would run this world government?

i'll give you a clue

it won't be the jews

5/19/2006 1:47:58 PM

i would rather have a union with Mexico than not having one and still have to subsidize them

5/19/2006 1:50:06 PM

all mexico would be for us is dead weight.

the same goes for Canada...fuck that

5/19/2006 1:51:58 PM

territorial acquisition is territorial acquisition

5/19/2006 1:52:58 PM

Well seeing how Bush only has a few years left in office he had better get started with the world domination plan.

5/19/2006 1:54:11 PM

Salisbury, come on now, actually answer my question instead of dancing around it.

What are the problems with forming such a Union, assuming our rights stay the same? If we still get to vote, if we still have freedom of speech, then what's your big opposition?

If it's just "but what about our sovereignty," you're going to explain to me how American sovereignty is better than continental or global sovereignty. It may well be -- I'm not saying it isn't -- but I need you to explain why. Is it that you don't want people in Mexico having a say in what you do? How is that different from people in New Mexico having a say in what you do?

As long as we live under a liberal democratic government of our chosing, I don't much care what level that government's at for anything but minor mechanical reasons that could be dealt with.

5/19/2006 1:56:14 PM

Bush is a puppet. The republican and democratic parties, while masquerading as opposition parties, are both promoting a big-government, globalist, freedom-destroying, pro-war agenda. Our elected government "leaders" are controlled by powerful interests behind the scenes.

5/19/2006 1:56:49 PM

way to answer the man's questions

5/19/2006 1:58:50 PM

You're always complaining that people don't actually try to work with these things you post. I ask a straightforward, non-mocking question, and I get...nothing.

5/19/2006 2:00:55 PM

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"way to answer the man's questions "

So your main schtick (along with the other trolls) now is to ask a ton of "questions" and then feign indignation and call for me to be suspended if I don't respond to every single of those "questions?" How pathetic.

Why don't you answer all of my questions? I don't care if people don't answer my questions. I'm not a trolling little bitch. And even though you apparantly wish with all your heart that it was...it's not a suspendable action to not answer every single effing question somebody asks.

I'm not avoiding his questions. My last post was literally some 30 seconds after his post. I didn't even see his post before making that post.

But keep trolling brianj. Show yourself for the ass you are.

5/19/2006 2:06:53 PM

amazing

grumpyGOP asks you a completely legit question in regard to one of your posts/threads and you immediately label him a troll and refuse to answer it because...

WAIT FOR IT...


YOU DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER. it's not like the question was a baiting one in order to get you to contradict yourself, you just flat out don't know the answer and instead of looking like a fool, you go the indignant route and look like more of a fool.

GG.

5/19/2006 2:09:35 PM

^^

you really have a chip on your shoulder man

[Edited on May 19, 2006 at 2:10 PM. Reason : .]

5/19/2006 2:10:02 PM

wtf i have never ONCE trolled u. the man asked u several questions to which u didnt answer and that's y i said what i did. i didnt ask the questions, he did. and i'm not callin for u to be suspended like all the others in the ur other threads. i just wish u would address certain questions more readily and fully then what u do. and i dont need to answer all ur questions because it's not my thread; if it was then i would address each and every question properly to maintain the level of discussion.

but thanks for the slander and misrepresentation.

5/19/2006 2:10:50 PM

i wish you would stop using "u"

5/19/2006 2:11:54 PM

fuck off, it's how i type and have always used it.

5/19/2006 2:12:28 PM

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"grumpyGOP asks you a completely legit question in regard to one of your posts/threads and you immediately label him a troll and refuse to answer it because..."

I didn't call grumpy GOP a troll.

And here, I'll now directly address the question...

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"Just out of curiosity, what would be the obvious, inherent evil in forming a larger Union, assuming our rights stayed the same?"

The point is that things won't stay the same. Merging our country with Mexico will bring down the quality of life for Americans overall. Absorbing 2nd and 3rd world countries brings down America. And it allows foreigners who don't share our views on government and rights to have power over us. Laws will most likely change (eg, regarding freedom of speech, religion, right to trial, against warrantless searches, etc.).



[Edited on May 19, 2006 at 2:15 PM. Reason : ```````]

5/19/2006 2:13:42 PM

Duke

Lock this shit man

This is fucking ridiculous...I'd rather see JohHguth's flames than this crap.

5/19/2006 2:13:46 PM

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"fuck off, it's how i type and have always used it."

it makes you look like a moron

5/19/2006 2:14:23 PM

the open boarders policy is what scares me. if you think that a bunch of mexicans are coming over now just wait until it's legal.

on second thought it would make it easier for me to go to canada

[Edited on May 19, 2006 at 2:34 PM. Reason : .]

5/19/2006 2:14:37 PM

^^ o ok





[Edited on May 19, 2006 at 2:15 PM. Reason : .]

5/19/2006 2:14:52 PM

and the rolly eyes make you look like a little bitch

5/19/2006 2:15:16 PM

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"The point is that things won't stay the same. Merging our country with Mexico will bring down the quality of life for Americans overall. Absorbing 2nd and 3rd world countries brings down America. And it allows foreigners who don't share our views on government and rights to have power over us. Laws will most likely change (eg, regarding freedom of speech, religion, right to trial, against warrantless searches, etc.)."

explain to me how you know. do you have a crystal ball? can you see the future in hypotheticals? are you the direct descendant of nostradamus?

5/19/2006 2:15:56 PM

haha can U keep goin?

5/19/2006 2:16:03 PM

I addressed grumpyGOP's question. I'm not "avoiding questions"...OH THE HORROR!

5/19/2006 2:16:29 PM

you're a marginalized nutjob

5/19/2006 2:17:06 PM

those who think they're really doing something by trying dismiss others as "nutjobs" don't matter

5/19/2006 2:18:13 PM

personally, i like the word marginalized more

5/19/2006 2:19:44 PM

go back to living in denial

you don't matter

5/19/2006 2:20:23 PM

i think you overestimate your own "mattering" by quite a bit

5/19/2006 2:20:48 PM

^^

no, YOU don't matter

that's why you rant and rave on some shitty college messageboard

5/19/2006 2:21:35 PM

cowards, sycophants, grovellers, and boot lickers don't matter

those with the courage to face the truth...and who stand up to tyranny...and stand up for what's right....

those people matter





[Edited on May 19, 2006 at 2:31 PM. Reason : ```]

5/19/2006 2:22:51 PM

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"i think you overestimate your own "mattering" by quite a bit"

5/19/2006 2:23:16 PM

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"no, YOU don't matter that's why you rant and rave on some shitty college messageboard"

And what are YOU doing? HYPOCRITE

You guys make this too easy.

5/19/2006 2:23:57 PM

umm

NOT ranting and raving?

i mean if you're going to misuse the word hypocrite while saying someone else is making it too easy, you might want to not make it too easy yourself.

i mean geez

[Edited on May 19, 2006 at 2:25 PM. Reason : wow]

5/19/2006 2:24:54 PM

I want someone to tell me again how I'm a "cracy nutjob whacko conspiracy theorist" for talking about globalism, Bush promoting open borders, the CFR, etc.

Aren't I just completely insane?

5/19/2006 2:27:38 PM

If I were still in the National Guard (thank god Im not) I would be getting out, especially with a nutjob of a President sending me to needless Vietnam style wars in the Middle East and all over the Southwest to "protect" the border. Does this idiot not understand that Guardsmen are part timers with careers and families, and that they are not to be used for every stupid whim that Emperor Palpatine deems sufficient?

[Edited on May 19, 2006 at 2:31 PM. Reason : .]

5/19/2006 2:31:07 PM

nobody forced you or anyone else to sign up. and you obey the orders of the commander in chief, whether you think it's right or wrong.

this is why we elect people out of office as much as into office.

[Edited on May 19, 2006 at 2:33 PM. Reason : *]

5/19/2006 2:32:57 PM

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"and you obey the orders of the commander in chief"

Our supreme allegiance is to the Constitution of the United States, not to any political leader. Oh, and they pledge to defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign AND DOMESTIC. Like that?

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"I, __________________, do solemly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic"

They have taken an oath to defend the Constitution against DOMESTIC enemies. Well let's get started! I'm game.


[Edited on May 19, 2006 at 2:40 PM. Reason : ```]

5/19/2006 2:36:53 PM

yes, and also to obey their commanders, who took the same oath

look we can get into the bush bad debate all you want

he's a shitty president and he's done a lot of shitty things

but how the hell is a buck private in the national guard from bumfuck nc, going to do anything when they order his ass to go to tel aviv to fight zionists?

not a goddamn thing.

it also doesn't have anything to do with this thread.

5/19/2006 2:44:07 PM

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"yes, and also to obey their commanders, who took the same oath"

And who do they obey when their commanders tell them to violate the Constitution, or when their commanders and superiors are, in fact, enemies of the Constitution?

Their (and our) SUPREME loyalty is to the Constitution, not any political or military leader.

5/19/2006 2:48:09 PM

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"how the hell is a buck private in the national guard from bumfuck nc, going to do anything when they order his ass to go to tel aviv to fight zionists? not a goddamn thing. it also doesn't have anything to do with this thread."

5/19/2006 3:01:09 PM