Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
So i have this old computer from work that was working.
I get it home and go to start it up and it is stuck in a boot loop where i get the screen to select safe mode, normal, etc and any one i pick it just restarts
so i say fuck it and reformat
well i have reformatted and reinstalled either 2000, 2000 server, xp pro, 2003 about 30 times and every time with all the systems, the installation hangs up at the splash screens after formatting and installing all the set up files
i have updated the BIOS for the motherboard to the lastest version
the mother board is a Super P6SBA, intel 440bx pentium III 550 MHz, some random 15 GB HD, some random ATI video card
memtest ran with no errors
i have searched the knowledge base and there was one article that matched but it was for intel 4 processors and the fixes didnt work...i have searched google and come up with solutions that havent worked
i only need the computer to use the CD drive over a network because im too cheap to get the dock for the IBM X41t that i just ordered so if i cant fix it, it is no big deal
anyone have any advice? 5/23/2006 4:00:52 PM |
lafta All American 14880 Posts user info edit post |
try to install it with as few componets on the computer as possible, 5/23/2006 4:11:20 PM |
Petschska All American 1182 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, just mobo, proc, cd-rom, hd, graphics card
-aka nothing in USB and no peripherials 5/23/2006 4:47:29 PM |
Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
yeah well taking everything out didnt work
im still having issues
anything else? 5/25/2006 1:27:36 PM |
Protostar All American 3495 Posts user info edit post |
Might be the HD. I tried to install Windows 2000 on an old 8.4 gig HD and the installation hung at 97% when it was formatting. Try a a different HD (if you have a spare) and see if that works. 5/25/2006 2:09:12 PM |
darkone (\/) (;,,,;) (\/) 11610 Posts user info edit post |
You are using a legal copy of the OS right? Are you using a burnt CD with updates slipstreamed?
Anytime I've seen this problem it has always been a problem with the install media.
I've something else similar happen with a laptop. For some reasons installing linux and then installing windows worked. Something in the linux installation fix whatever windows didn't like about the computer. 5/25/2006 2:09:18 PM |
Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, all the software has been legit, i started to use the copies at work when the copy of xp sp2 didnt work
then i tried the original xp pro cd i have...no dice
the best i can ever do is the splash screen after the first restart to finish the installation
^ what verison of linux did you use?
^^ i dont have one lying around but i need another one, so now sounds like a good time to upgrade
[Edited on May 25, 2006 at 3:33 PM. Reason : sp] 5/25/2006 3:23:03 PM |
darkone (\/) (;,,,;) (\/) 11610 Posts user info edit post |
^ I had a laptop that wouldn't take an XP installation no matter what I did. I tied everything possible to get it to work. After a few days I said, "fuck it" and installed mandrake linux. Mandrake worked like a champ. A few days later I tried to install XP again on a lark. XP installed without a hitch. Why did it work? I don't have a clue. 5/25/2006 4:37:22 PM |
Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
well ill try linux for the hell of it to see what happens 5/25/2006 4:55:29 PM |
Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
oh so how fucked up is this
i have a copy of windows 98 se and i installed it for shits and giggles
and it fucking worked
so i was like score, ill try to upgrade to 2000
didnt work, it still hung up in the exact same place
does that give anyone some insight? 5/25/2006 8:54:28 PM |
Seotaji All American 34244 Posts user info edit post |
that happens a lot for some reason.
it sucks yo. 5/25/2006 11:18:09 PM |
beneb27 New Recruit 17 Posts user info edit post |
You seriously haven't run DFT on the hdd? methinks bad sectors... 5/26/2006 2:24:47 AM |
Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
because it doesnt feel like a bad drive
every time ive installed 2000, xp, xp sp2, or 2003 it gets hung up after the first restart at the splash screen
i would expect more randomness than that or crashing as the computer copies the files over before the restart, the files coping is flawless
[Edited on May 26, 2006 at 9:06 AM. Reason : .] 5/26/2006 9:05:24 AM |
beneb27 New Recruit 17 Posts user info edit post |
all of those installations use a similar kernel and whatnot, so if you have corrupt sectors in a certain spot, it may manifest similar problems with all of those installs.
just a theory. give it a try perhaps. hitachi makes it, drive fitness test 5/26/2006 5:32:21 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
even if you ran memtest, i would try some different ram. if can't get different ram and have two sticks in there now, try it with one stick, then the other. i have a bunch of pc100/pc133 if you need some.
get a $15 hdd from someone, try it on that one. download the fittness test or whichever utility for the hdd youre using.
i assume you did a full format with each install...not a quick format. you can also use one of those hdd programs to 0 out the drive (low level format), then install.
reset the cmos via battery or jumper 5/26/2006 7:44:37 PM |
feedrofdapak Veteran 253 Posts user info edit post |
I've seen instances where a drive that was reformatted but still used the original partition hung up repeatedly on XP installs.
Try deleting the partition, then install from scratch. 5/26/2006 9:28:53 PM |
Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
ok so it is a WD drive and i ran the diagnoistics
quick scan once, full scan twice with no errors
i tried different media with no results
i am going to remove some ram to see what i can get
thanks for the help so far 5/28/2006 6:11:37 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
oh and be sure to try a different video card too, pci would work 5/28/2006 6:36:22 PM |
Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
ok so trying out all three sticks of ram one at a time didnt do anything
i have zeroed out the drive three times, nothing
i am ready to throw this thing off my balcony into the pool
im going to try a different harddrive and a different agp video card for shits and giggles 5/29/2006 8:06:53 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "im going to try a different harddrive and a different agp video card for shits and giggles" |
yeah if you do that and no luck then trash it (though i would do pci instead of agp)5/29/2006 11:17:52 PM |
Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
i dont have a pci video card 5/29/2006 11:43:37 PM |
Protostar All American 3495 Posts user info edit post |
If you do decide to get rid of it, I might be willing to take it off your hands depending upon the price. 5/30/2006 9:06:21 AM |
Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
well the new harddrive didnt do anything 5/30/2006 11:02:43 PM |
Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
well i tried running a knoppix live cd in failsafe and it got hung up doing whatever it is supposed to do after it loads the floppy drive drivers
something is completely fucked i guess 5/31/2006 11:41:05 AM |
darkone (\/) (;,,,;) (\/) 11610 Posts user info edit post |
I think at this point you're down to a CPU or motherboard problem. 5/31/2006 11:49:48 AM |
Skack All American 31140 Posts user info edit post |
I've worked through this, but I can't remember for the life of me what I did. I want to say it worked after I disabled serial ports, parallel ports, etc. in the BIOS and I later narrowed it down to one of the Serial ports. You may want to try disabling all the onboard stuff and going from there. 5/31/2006 4:23:46 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
ahhh, now thats a good idea. 5/31/2006 4:34:17 PM |
Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
i did that
i disabled all the serial ports, parallel, fdd
still the same result
and knoppix disables all that stuff when it boots in failsafe 5/31/2006 9:09:53 PM |
Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
ok i tried it again
i disabled the fdc, serial, parallel, usb, and the ide channel that the cd-rom drive wasnt on
there is no hard drive installed now
all the onboard hardware that exists except for the PCI stuff was disabled
shit still hangs up
nothing on the mobo looks bad or blown
it is killing me because it will end up being something simple 5/31/2006 10:03:40 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
try a different video card. i have a pci for $5 if you want. 5/31/2006 10:16:29 PM |
NCSU337 All American 1098 Posts user info edit post |
I had this happen to my old computer. I tried a different hard drive, cd-drive, other cds, and took apart the whole thing. None of that worked and no online fixes worked. I never did fix it but I think it was a problem with my mobo or cpu because i upgraded those and have had no problem since.
I sold my old cpu and the guy has not said he's had a problem with it so that makes me think the mobo was bad.
Hope you have better luck with this than I did. 5/31/2006 10:29:57 PM |