http://www.sportsline.com/collegebasketball/story/9459096

yes it's by doyel, set that aside...

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"Here comes the rule, and as you read it, keep in mind that this is not a joke. This is not fiction. This is real, and this is the rule: A student-athlete who earns an undergraduate degree in four years but still has one year of eligibility remaining -- a medical redshirt, for example -- can transfer into another college's graduate school and finish his or her career there ... immediately. No sitting out a year. It's graduate, transfer and play."

what in the world are they thinking? now the "big" schools (duke, unc, texas, kansas, arizona, and other basketball powerhouses any given year) will have their choice of "graduates" wanting a final hoorah for a big school before the nba draft comes up for them.

also, what if this makes players want to graduate as quick as possible to see what options are out there? there are some interesting situations that could arise, but the rule is crazy...

5/24/2006 11:47:55 PM

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"keep in mind that this is not a joke"

o, rly?

5/24/2006 11:49:11 PM

who cares

anyone playing five years is not going pro

5/24/2006 11:52:13 PM

um this is the dumbest, cheapest rule ever...

so a team like Duke that is going to suck this year can just grab a 5th year senior to start at a position of weakness (like Center) and be good instead.


I refuse to believe this is true.

If it is, this is the nail in the coffin for college basketball. There's barely enough reasons to watch it anymore anyway.

5/24/2006 11:55:46 PM

ahhaa

why don't you blow this out of proportion a bit rally

this will not affect the game in the least

5/24/2006 11:57:17 PM

any 5th year player ain't worth nothing anyway

See: EVTIMOV

wait he's 8-year

5/25/2006 12:04:24 AM

^^there are tons of good players that have had medical redshirts...players that have gone on to the nba...

this means that with that extra eligibility, a player could leave a school where he proved himself as a star even though he may have been a recruiting gamble and play at duke or unc the next year with no penalty.

that would change college basketball. the strong would get stronger and it wouldn't benefit any midlevel schools.

[Edited on May 25, 2006 at 12:06 AM. Reason : /]

5/25/2006 12:05:54 AM

i can hardly see this making a huge impact

someone give me some examples

i'm not saying there aren't any good fifth-year players out there

but an impact fifth-year players who wants a transfer

who is that

5/25/2006 12:07:49 AM

ilian evtimov could have transferred to duke and caused them to lose games

[Edited on May 25, 2006 at 12:09 AM. Reason : levi watkins, too]

5/25/2006 12:09:26 AM

exactly

5/25/2006 12:09:44 AM

I think this is some kind of rule that helps white guys, since they're the only ones that actually graduate.

/generalization

5/25/2006 12:10:28 AM

^ no it's true
as are most stereotypes actually

5/25/2006 12:12:43 AM

What do you mean there will be no impact?

You guys are stupid.


There are plenty of seniors across the country that could have an impact somewhere.

Just wait until a school like Duke who is loaded but doesnt have a returning point guard picks up a Travis Diener for a year.

What if Pittsnoggle just decided to enroll at UNC next year? That doesn't make them better?


This is just stupid.

5/25/2006 12:16:54 AM

^ The Pittsnogle point is very valid...so valid I revoke my previous statement

5/25/2006 12:18:32 AM

why the fuck would diener and/or pittsnoggle want to transfer

marquette and wvu seemed like damn good teams to me

5/25/2006 12:19:01 AM

It's a retarded rule, and I don't see what sort of reasoning was behind its creation.

But I don't see many guys who are good enough to make an impact with a major university choose a fifth year at a new school over a shot at the NBA. By your fifth year, you're pushing 23, and you're about as polished as you're gonna get, so it's not like that extra year will get your ass ready for the NBA.

5/25/2006 12:22:16 AM

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"why the fuck would diener and/or pittsnoggle want to transfer marquette and wvu seemed like damn good teams to me"

don't begin to say that you think either of those schools is a duke or carolina. they don't have the same prestige, exposure, or national coverage that either might want to have a big push up the draft board

5/25/2006 12:34:36 AM

this is like a re to the nba rule. it wont make as much of a difference now that youre gonna have all theses garnetts kobes and tmacs playing college ball as freshmen. this will not be for players that wouldve went to the nba anyway. its backwards to go learn a new system for nothing. this isnt gonna make things like finley going to sa to win a tittle before he leaves. its gonna be more for guys like jackie manuel tony bethel lee melchioni who wont make THAT much of a difference anyway.

5/25/2006 12:38:08 AM

apparently the big schools said "fuck george mason"

and this was born

5/25/2006 12:49:25 AM

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"but still has one year of eligibility remaining"

This is the key point guys. Bethel, Melchionni, and Manuel couldn't play anyhow.

How could guys that have played 4 years play another?

5/25/2006 12:49:38 AM

^durr...

guys who graduate in 4 years...but didn't play 4, hence a year of eligibility, but graduated.

like nate james for duke. he graduated and still had 2 years of eligibility left thanks to injuries...

5/25/2006 1:11:48 AM

basically the ray borque method

5/25/2006 1:27:18 AM

guys realistically, what kind of cunt would play for a school for 4 years, then transfer to another school leave all his boys and teamates behind, his coach, for a new coach and a bunch of strangers? be serious here. i don't see it happening except for under extreme circumstances, and certainly not with a big name player to a big name school.

5/25/2006 2:08:42 AM

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" See: EVTIMOV wait he's 8-year "

I dont get how he was 8-year, he came here in 2001-2002 season, and did not play that season correct? unless I suck at math thats only 5 seasons, or 5 years however you want to look at it, not 8.

5/25/2006 11:12:43 AM

^Wow

5/25/2006 11:20:10 AM

i guess he should have used the sarcasm font

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[Edited on May 25, 2006 at 11:22 AM. Reason : ahahhahaha]

5/25/2006 11:21:51 AM

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"will have their choice of "graduates" wanting a final hoorah for a big school before the nba draft comes up for them."

yeah because so many future NBA players would rather get a "final hoorah" for 1 year instead of getting paid millions of dollars to play in the NBA that year

5/25/2006 11:53:53 AM

^so basically you are saying there aren't any good players in college basketball (specifically that stay more than one year)...there have been some great 4 year players, but the statement you made that you think is a great point to disown this thread is wrong. the fact is that this impacts college basketball...NOT the NBA. players will leave...it happens. but there are great players that stay in college for whatever reason that could essentially become free agents...so your point has no relevance to this rule.

this rule has nothing to do with the greg odens, lebrons, carmelos, and others that have no intentions of staying...if you think it does then you need to work on your reading and comprehension skills and not your trolling skills.

http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=87076 - article on "the extra year at duke"
http://www.statenews.com/article.phtml?pk=9730 - "death of the 4-year superstar"

[Edited on May 25, 2006 at 12:10 PM. Reason : .]

5/25/2006 12:08:27 PM

dont they have to be admitted to that GRAD Program first
you know most of these kids cant pass the lsat or equiv.

5/25/2006 12:09:53 PM

^do you think shelden williams would have been accepted to duke if he didn't play basketball?

admissions will have no impact whatsoever...if a school wants a player, they'll work it out unless he's a total idiot.

[Edited on May 25, 2006 at 12:31 PM. Reason : e not o]

5/25/2006 12:11:51 PM

^it's sheldEn

I think the discrepancy will lie in the amount of scholarships available to a school. If a school doesn't have an available scholarship for the transfer, he will have to be willing to pay out of pocket for a new school (Duke=40g) rather than live free for a year at his current school.

5/25/2006 12:28:50 PM

Quote :

"guys realistically, what kind of cunt would play for a school for 4 years, then transfer to another school leave all his boys and teamates behind, his coach, for a new coach and a bunch of strangers? be serious here. i don't see it happening except for under extreme circumstances, and certainly not with a big name player to a big name school."

my point exactly

5/25/2006 12:50:08 PM

***NEWS FLASH***

In a related story, NC State forward Brandon Costner has already been accepted to graduate school as a freshman.

5/25/2006 1:03:29 PM

^^see that MOODY

5/25/2006 1:27:01 PM

coaches leave, players leave, and then players transfer...don't act like it doesn't happen

5/25/2006 1:42:21 PM

dont act like this little rule is gonna completely transform college basketball

5/25/2006 1:43:06 PM

it's not going to completely transform basketball, but it will have an impact...maybe your feeble mind can't comprehend what happens when players can "upgrade" schools with no penalty

5/25/2006 1:48:05 PM

unc and duke got scared as shit when we got tony bethel, oh boy, shaking in boots

5/25/2006 1:50:40 PM

tree is correct, this will have little effect. there are only a handfull of players in the past few years that:

played after their graduation and were actually good enough to make an impact on a upper tier team. It just doesn't happen that much.


In addition to that does anyone really think that the NCAA would make it harder for a team like George Mason to have a run like they did last year? they were a huge draw for the tourney.

5/25/2006 1:55:09 PM

time will tell i just dont think it will be that impactful on the sport

the players that could potentially transfer are not gonna be superstars

5/25/2006 3:52:43 PM

^^ Even if it's just a few, you know where those few will land. There are plenty of 4 year players who were great college players even though they aren't NBA material.

5/25/2006 6:17:18 PM