From the Lexington, KY paper:

Kentucky should know by this weekend whether it will add New Jersey Player of the Year Dan Werner to this year's recruiting haul.

Werner, a 6-foot-8 forward with perimeter skills, has made UK one of his four final college choices. The other three are Florida, Pittsburgh and Rutgers.

Schools eliminated from Werner's list were North Carolina State, Seton Hall, Notre Dame and Saint Joseph's.

Werner originally signed with N.C. State. After Coach Herb Sendek left the school this spring, the player decided to reopen his recruitment.

Werner planned to get away with his family the rest of this week to think about the college choice, said Ed Wicelinski, who coached the player at Christian Brothers Academy in Lincroft, N.J.

Werner, whom the Prep Stars recruiting service rated No. 84 nationally in its most recent analysis, would seem to fill the need at forward that UK has tried repeatedly to fill. Earlier this recruiting year, the Cats pursued such forwards as Brandan Wright, Thaddeus Young, Deon Thompson, Darrell Arthur and Damion James.

Werner scored about 1,400 points and grabbed 800 rebounds in his high school career, Wicelinski said.

6/15/2006 7:54:34 AM

oh well

6/15/2006 8:04:07 AM

so we're losing the good recruits and getting in a few eh guys...
i really hope Lowe is a good developer...

6/15/2006 8:09:00 AM

^get it straight....we're loosing Herb's good recruits.

Give Lowe a chance to bring in his own recruits.

6/15/2006 8:12:24 AM

you guys have an excuse for everything

6/15/2006 8:17:46 AM

i don't think he is going to choose to come here, but i wouldn't use this article as the evidence. there isn't even a single quote from dan in the entire article.

6/15/2006 8:23:40 AM

this fucking sucks

Dan was the one guy from Herb's '06 class that I really thought could make an impact.

fuck you, Prick Pride

you are the reason we lost Chris Wright, Larry Davis, Dan Werner and Herb Sendek

6/15/2006 10:12:15 AM

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"arog20012001 All American 2224 Posts user info edit post ^get it straight....we're loosing Herb's good recruits. Give Lowe a chance to bring in his own recruits. 6/15/2006 8:12:24 AM CharlieEFH All American 17478 Posts user info edit post you guys have an excuse for everything"

I don't really call facts, excuses. The kid wanted to come play in Herbies system. It isn't like NCSU is enough of a legend for anyone to come here regardless of coach. Just because you are a Herb pumper, doesn't mean you have to be an idiot.

6/15/2006 10:56:15 AM

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"If the only reason they wanted to come to State was to play in Herb's sysem, I don't want 'em."

6/15/2006 11:21:15 AM

Yeah fuck having ANY new freshmen this coming year.

Im afraid Ferguson, our one newcomer, isn't going to be that good.

6/15/2006 11:38:10 AM

ferguson our one newcomer?

you forgot:

horner
lewandowski

and technically costner as well, because he hardly got to play last year.

6/15/2006 11:53:37 AM

^what he said

6/15/2006 11:57:11 AM

^^Is Horner for sure coming?

The other kid may sadly be all we have in the middle if Brackman quits basketball.

6/15/2006 12:04:48 PM

who cares clear all these guys out.

these guys all lack testicular fortitude, no wonder they wanted to play for Herb.

6/15/2006 12:07:16 PM

werner was evtimov part 2

6/15/2006 12:24:20 PM

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"If the only reason they wanted to come to State was to play in Herb's sysem, I don't want 'em."

I loved Herb, but this statement is nothing but truth. Werner seemed like he had a shitty attitude, too.

6/15/2006 2:00:14 PM

im with rally

fuck them all, abandon all traces of the past regime

6/15/2006 2:00:33 PM

I only elect to keep the guys like Gavin Grant who sold Herb out.

If you arent willing to spit on his name then we dont want you.

6/15/2006 2:17:55 PM

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"I only elect to keep the guys like Gavin Grant who sold Herb out. If you arent willing to spit on his name then we dont want you."

Best post in this thread.

6/15/2006 2:21:38 PM

wow

6/15/2006 2:39:09 PM

So if this guy was coming here for Herb does that mean he is now going to Arizona?

6/15/2006 2:52:53 PM

Good lord we have some idiots on this thread.

6/15/2006 2:55:20 PM

curious how these views are gonna change when we go from making the NCAA to an NIT bid

6/15/2006 3:10:48 PM

http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/5694830

6/15/2006 3:21:06 PM

I guess we'll have to wait about 3 or 4 years before that happens.

And the "view" that Werner was the highest rated recruit we had coming in won't change. If he goes on to suck wherever he ends up...then so be it. But he wasn't a system player like so many on here mentioned. He was being heavily recruited by Florida and Kentucky, who don't run anything like Herb ran here.

We could have used him. We won't get him now. Lets move on....but don't make dumb statements like it isn't a big deal.

6/15/2006 3:22:21 PM

http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=178&p=8&c=1&nid=1153549

we got this guy now


[Edited on June 15, 2006 at 3:30 PM. Reason : interesting we weren't even on his list b4]

6/15/2006 3:25:29 PM

florida and kentucky didn't even start recruiting him until the sendek saga opened up werner's recruitment, i think he chose State over st. joes at the time. he was a "diamond in the rough" until his senior school season.

[Edited on June 15, 2006 at 3:37 PM. Reason : e]

6/15/2006 3:32:48 PM

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"curious how these views are gonna change when we go from making the NCAA to an NIT bid"

Im trying to be optimistic, but I don't even see us being in the NIT.

I mean really, do you all think we can beat the Virginia Tech's and Clemson's? We barely could this year because all ACC teams are talented.

6/15/2006 4:06:20 PM

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"jprince11 All American 9533 Posts user info edit post curious how these views are gonna change when we go from making the NCAA to an NIT bid"

My view isn't going to change one bit. If it means going 5 years of mediocrity for us to get past the sweet 16, or beat our rivals, or make NCSU bball a product I get exicted about, then it needs to be done.

I would have been perfectly happy to keep Herb assuming 1 of 2 things changed in his program

1) We compete with our rivals consistently, and at the very least compete with them while losing
2) Have an offense that is more entertaining.

Why do you think Chuck's head hasn't been on more of a pole than it should be based on records? Because he manages to pull out wins over FSU, takes VT and OSU to the wire, and is known to run an exciting offense. Yes, in time if he doesn't produce better records then we will tire of this too (especially if we keep losing to UNC). But with Herb, it became pretty apparent that we weren't going past the 16, or going to compete with our rivals consistently, or not run dumbass plays at the end of regulation, or several other things that were endemic in his program.

6/15/2006 4:17:36 PM

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"and is known to run an exciting offense."

Have you been to a football game in 3 years?

The Stone running QB draws and Jay Davis 3rd and 10 screen passes offenses were NOT entertaining.

I love how entertainment means more than wins.

[Edited on June 15, 2006 at 4:20 PM. Reason : .]

6/15/2006 4:20:17 PM

wow ... so the "we can lose everything as long as we beat carolina" mantra is true fore more people than I tohught

6/15/2006 4:20:36 PM

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"So if this guy was coming here for Herb does that mean he is now going to Arizona?"

WE ALL GO TO NORTH CAROLINA!!!1

6/15/2006 4:58:17 PM

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"ssclark All American 1842 Posts user info edit post wow ... so the "we can lose everything as long as we beat carolina" mantra is true fore more people than I tohught "

Thats fine with me if you want to completely misrepresent what I said, I can't help you're retarded.

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"Have you been to a football game in 3 years? The Stone running QB draws and Jay Davis 3rd and 10 screen passes offenses were NOT entertaining."

You mean

You mean when we beat FSU that wasn't entertaining? You mean....when we beat VT with Stone, that wasn't entertaining? God damn you people are about as dumb as it gets.

6/15/2006 5:13:59 PM

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"God damn you people are about as dumb as it gets."

couldn't of said it better myself


GO PACK

6/15/2006 5:49:15 PM

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"as dumb as it gets."

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"couldn't of said it better myself"

6/15/2006 5:58:50 PM

"couldn't of"


haha. i hope you were kidding

if so, gg
if not, ouch

6/15/2006 6:08:46 PM

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"You mean when we beat FSU that wasn't entertaining? You mean....when we beat VT with Stone, that wasn't entertaining? God damn you people are about as dumb as it gets."

That game was won by the defense dumbshit. We scored 17 Fucking points.

We had 10 Sacks. My God the offense in either of those games did NOTHING!

And the only reason Stone came in was so we can run the fucking ball and run the clock out.

6/15/2006 6:46:37 PM

oh well

6/15/2006 7:09:48 PM

Can you at least wait until we get a capable quarterback before you shoot down the football team?


There's not many coaches that could have won with our QB situation. We had the worst 2 QB's in the ACC on our team...literally

6/15/2006 7:09:55 PM

Who recruits the QBs???

6/15/2006 7:14:34 PM

...and Noel Mazzone coached them

6/15/2006 7:19:46 PM

And before you say it because I know you will.

Chuck hired Mazzone.... off of the advice of Norm Chow


I think Trestman was a good hire. We'll see

6/15/2006 7:22:27 PM

I hope Trestman was a good hire. I thought it was at the time, but I have to say I was a little disappointed in the QB play last year. I knew they weren't going to be great, but I expected a little more.

We'll see how Stone and/or Burke looks this year.

6/15/2006 7:33:24 PM

^yeah but it was only Trestman's first year. not many people can come in and get a complete turnaround, especially with our QB's in their first year. hopefully Stone will have improved, as well as the offensive line.

now Reggie Herring, what he did was simply amazing.

6/15/2006 9:53:08 PM

i had dinner with wendell murphy tonight and he was talking about losing werner and cedric simmons (although he justified that one by talking about ced's family situation)...

kind of sucks, but he even said to me that it's always gonna be hard trying to top duke and unc...so i think he has realistic expectations even though he flies coaches in on his jet

6/15/2006 9:55:12 PM

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"now Reggie Herring, what he did was simply amazing."

I think the 3 first round picks we just had were a bigger part of that than Reggie Herring. He really tore it up at Arkansas.

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"I hope Trestman was a good hire. I thought it was at the time, but I have to say I was a little disappointed in the QB play last year"

The only reason I hold out hope is becuase when he was at U of Miami his 2 quarterbacks were Bernie Kosar and Vinny Testaverde. I believe he also recruited Steve Walsh.

Maybe Stone just isn't the type of QB Trestman would like for his system. I'll wait until he gets his guys in here (Burke) for a few years and see what happens.

I think Chuck's done a decent job and underachieved... but he's underachieved becuase of only having 1 side of the ball. Rivers' offenses were great and post-Rivers defenses were great.

I have no problem giving him a little more time to put it all together. He's proven he has a great eye for talent, can develop players, and he can at least put together a solid O and D (just not at the same time)

That said, there's still a lot of questions with him

[Edited on June 15, 2006 at 10:04 PM. Reason : so much for the Werner thread... ]

6/15/2006 10:02:59 PM

from a press conference today

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"As for Davis’ fellow recruit/commitment Dan Werner, Lowe said the 6-7 forward still could play for State next season. “He wants to relax and get away from it and think about things for a little bit,” Lowe said. “Then we’ll discuss it and hopefully come up with an agreement that everyone is comfortable with.”"

http://blogs.newsobserver.com/accnow/

6/15/2006 10:03:57 PM

^^ and he could put together assistants who can put together a solid O and D.

6/15/2006 10:14:28 PM

whoopdy fucking do

6/15/2006 10:14:48 PM

packboozie said:

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"That game was won by the defense dumbshit. We scored 17 Fucking points. We had 10 Sacks. My God the offense in either of those games did NOTHING! And the only reason Stone came in was so we can run the fucking ball and run the clock out."

Here, I'll say it again:

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"God damn you people are about as dumb as it gets."

I said this about the basketball program

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"Have an offense that is more entertaining."

Then said this about the football program

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"Why do you think Chuck's head hasn't been on more of a pole than it should be based on records? Because he manages to pull out wins over FSU, takes VT and OSU to the wire, and is known to run an exciting offense."

Now tell me where in your mind how you managed to connect that I said anything about the offense being exciting to watch last year? Does reading trip you up? Does it fail you? When you see these letters on the screen, once they hit your retina, does your brain say "hell no, I'm not processing any thoughts today, go directly to the colon?" Fucking hell, I don't know why I bother to respond.

[Edited on June 15, 2006 at 11:44 PM. Reason : x]

6/15/2006 11:43:48 PM