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6/27/2006 8:54:07 AM

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6/27/2006 9:23:13 AM

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what, like at a party?

6/27/2006 9:29:30 AM

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"Palestinian factions agree to recognize Israel

But soldier's kidnapping, internal bickering foster doubts

Tuesday, June 27, 2006; Posted: 9:02 a.m. EDT (13:02 GMT)

GAZA CITY (AP) -- The rival Hamas and Fatah movements on Tuesday completed an agreement over a plan that implicitly recognizes Israel, ending weeks of acrimonious negotiations, a top official said.

"We have an agreement over the document," said Ibrahim Abu Najah, coordination of the "national dialogue" over the proposal.

Salah Zeidan, another negotiator, said preparations were being made for a formal signing ceremony. "All political groups are prepared for a mutual cease-fire with Israel," he said.

President Mahmoud Abbas of Fatah has been trying to coax his Hamas rivals into endorsing the document, which was formulated by senior Palestinian prisoners held by Israel.

He has endorsed the plan as a way to end crippling economic sanctions against the Hamas-led Palestinian government and pave the way to reopening peace talks.

However, the deal was overshadowed by a crisis over the kidnapping of an Israeli soldier and opposition to the deal voiced by Islamic Jihad, a small militant group that has carried out numerous attacks against Israel.

"In today's meeting, we announced we reject some of the articles of this document and we have reservations about other articles," said Khaled al-Batch, spokesman for Islamic Jihad.

The plan calls for a Palestinian state alongside Israel, in effect recognizing Israel. It also calls on militants to limit attacks to areas captured by Israel in the 1967 Mideast War and calls for formation of a coalition Palestinian government.

Hamas and Fatah have been locked in a bloody power struggle since Hamas won legislative elections in January. Hamas controls the parliament and Cabinet. Abbas, a political moderate, was elected separately last year.

Israel has said the document is an internal Palestinian matter, but said it falls short of international demands that Hamas renounce violence and formally recognize the Jewish state.

With Hamas-linked militants holding a captured Israeli soldier, the Palestinian agreement is even less likely to reduce tensions. Israel has massed troops along its border with Gaza, promising a broad offensive into the area."

6/27/2006 9:46:08 AM

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Between having Palestine being strangled to death by the international community and Israel lining up its military on the border, ready to flatten the Gaza Strip to find that soldier, I imagine that Hamas is probably a little bit more open to compromise at this point...

6/27/2006 11:38:41 AM

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yeah i think there's a stick of dynamite instead of a carrot dangling from the end of the stick at this point

6/27/2006 11:54:38 AM

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this happening is a good thing

6/27/2006 12:49:13 PM

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GAZA ACTION

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/06/27/israel.soldier/index.html

6/27/2006 3:53:01 PM

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IDF: Troops entering Gaza

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/06/27/israel.soldier/index.html

6/27/2006 8:00:59 PM

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Hamas today said that they do not recognize Israel's right to exist and never made those claims.

6/27/2006 8:52:04 PM

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6/28/2006 7:35:24 AM

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Once they recognize israel, they can have a formally outlined War, instead of just being considered a bunch of terrorists by the rest of the world..

[Edited on June 28, 2006 at 11:55 AM. Reason : .]

6/28/2006 11:54:57 AM

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Haha conventional warfare with Israel?

If any arab nation could do this, would they resort to terrorism?

They'd get their dicks dragged through the dirt.

6/28/2006 11:56:51 AM

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once they have a formally outlined war, they will be embarrassed by Israel, instead of being empathized with the rest of the world.

6/28/2006 11:57:57 AM

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i dont get why we took over israel when we coulda took over somewhere like iran and had cheap ass gas our whole life

6/28/2006 12:03:26 PM

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Iran is anti-anything foreign. The only thing that unites them (besides religion, and that is even split down the sides) is an invasion from a foreign force.

See Afghanistan as an historical example. Many tribes and rough terrain. Sedendary people always get invaded in that country. The real population stays on the move and fight each other until they come together to expel a common enemy

6/28/2006 12:18:03 PM

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The Associated Press reports Palestinian security personnel and Egyptians are trying to prevent people from pushing through a hole in a fence blown open when militants detonated a land mine along the Egypt-Gaza border.

6/29/2006 8:01:03 AM

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aha

the israeli's flew several jets over al-assad's summer palace in syria and there wasn't shit the syrians could do about it

AHA

6/29/2006 8:59:17 AM

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^ In fact, that's so damn funny it inspired me to make a comic about it




6/29/2006 9:49:17 AM

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ROBOT HOOOOUSSSSEEEEEEE!!!

6/29/2006 9:52:58 AM

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^^that would be even better if you had used syrian people instead of lebanese

6/29/2006 11:11:30 AM

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i realize they're lebanese, but i'm too lazy to look past page one on a google image search

if we're going to get pedantic and unfunny, we can also point out that they didn't fly over a rally either

6/29/2006 11:15:14 AM

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well no that your cartoon which is fine

but it is kinda stupid to claim syria when everyone is waving lebanese flags


i like your general idea and marko's response makes it even better, but the flags thing is just lazy


lazy i tells ya

6/29/2006 11:18:41 AM

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I still hold out some hope that Fatah and Hamas will merge and become Fatas, and then never understand why English speakers laugh at them.

6/29/2006 11:20:04 AM

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"but it is kinda stupid to claim syria when everyone is waving lebanese flags"


it's a pro-syrian rally

BETCHA DIDNT KNOW THAT

6/29/2006 11:21:02 AM

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i hate you with the fury of a thousand living chainsaws




6/29/2006 11:27:14 AM

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"it's a pro-syrian rally

BETCHA DIDNT KNOW THAT"


actually it's an anti-syrian rally

but thanks for coming out

[Edited on June 29, 2006 at 11:38 AM. Reason : and thanks for changing the pic for me]

6/29/2006 11:37:39 AM

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gdi edomite lies

6/29/2006 11:39:30 AM

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trumped

6/29/2006 11:40:57 AM

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but i looked up pro-syrian on GIS

6/29/2006 11:44:59 AM

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sorry gis lied to you

you should sue


for $texas

6/29/2006 11:55:07 AM

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"i dont get why we took over israel when we coulda took over somewhere like iran and had cheap ass gas our whole life"


The Book of Revelations

6/29/2006 11:55:25 AM

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s

6/29/2006 12:16:29 PM

marko
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ROBOT HOOOOOOUSSSSSEEEEEEEEE

6/29/2006 12:39:48 PM

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"the israeli's flew several jets over al-assad's summer palace in syria and there wasn't shit the syrians could do about it"


of course it is because of this that the majority of muslims and arabs hate israel and america.

the idiot ahmedinejad talks some shit, and bush and sharon come out and threaten airstrikes and war.

but, israel has a free hand to violate a sovereign nation's airspace for no reason at all, and that's ok. imagine if an arab country did that. or imagine the fury if it happened to the US.

but israel, they can do whatever they want.

they have destroyed the central power station in gaza, and fuel supply lines. the city is in darkness, and water and sewage will be cut in a couple of days because of power and fuel stations having been destroyed. that's specifically against the geneva conventions. oh, but it is israel, so that is ok.

of course, in response, some idiots are going to say, but look at the palestinian militants, they don't care about the conventions, so why should the israelis/americans?

but that's the whole essence of the thing. the terrorists, whether they are palestinian, taliban, al-qaeda, or whatever, are seen as terrorists. but america and israel, they have to decide, whether they are sovereign democratic countries, or terrorist combatants.

of course, all their retaliatory actions point to them being just the same as the terrorists.

6/29/2006 6:53:14 PM

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well it's probably cause they didn't recognize



sucks to be over there and not a jew

6/29/2006 7:26:33 PM

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GOD DAMN YOU ISRAEL FOR YOUR UNPROVOCED ACTIONS

6/29/2006 7:28:14 PM

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^^^ sure we cut off the heads of our enemies and parade their naked carcasses through the streets all the time. It's always out goal to inflict maximal civilian casualities, that's the goal of all our military operations.

[Edited on June 29, 2006 at 7:29 PM. Reason : slow typing I do.]

6/29/2006 7:28:49 PM

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WAR....HUH...GOOD GOD YALL.........WHAT IS IT GOOD FOR

6/29/2006 9:11:59 PM

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http://www.localnewswatch.com/skyvalley/stories/index.php?action=fullnews&id=198910

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"but, israel has a free hand to violate a sovereign nation's airspace for no reason at all, and that's ok."


From the article:

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"Israeli warplanes also buzzed the summer home of Syria ‘s president, Bashar Assad, who harbors the hard-line Hamas leaders who Israel says ordered the kidnapping."


That's probably their reasoning.

6/29/2006 9:16:11 PM

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i dont see how this conflict can be perpetrated by guys with hilarious beards like this one

6/30/2006 7:02:16 AM

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Israel last night threatened to assassinate Palestinian Prime Minister Ismael Haniyeh if Hamas militants did not release a captured Israeli soldier unharmed.

7/1/2006 10:37:20 AM

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Israel is a great example of how to deal with insurgencies. They've been doing so well for the past 50 years.

7/1/2006 2:34:36 PM

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^ well said.

7/2/2006 1:24:54 AM

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Palestinian militants holding an Israeli soldier captive have set a deadline for Israel to begin releasing Palestinian prisoners. A statement from the groups said: "We are giving the Zionist enemy until tomorrow, July 4th, at 6:00 a.m. (11 p.m. EDT Monday.) If they do not answer our humanitarian demands, the enemy will be responsible for all future consequences."

7/3/2006 7:24:27 AM

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those people must be insane....if they kill that soldier...soooo maybe palestinians will die...this whole situation is lame

7/3/2006 8:31:33 AM

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^ Very true! As soon as that guy is killed, the bulldozers are going to fucking erase any sign of rebuilding that was happening in Gaza, to say nothing of what they'll do with their tanks and artillery units. Many people will die as a result, probably including many people behind the Hamas leadership (including the prime minister who they threatened to assassinate once).

On both sides, there are people who don't give any sort of damn about the people who will die. Just as long as they make it look like they could justify it to their followers and maybe make everyone who died look like martyrs in the meantime, they'll perceive it as a "win" for their side.

7/3/2006 10:34:01 AM

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GAZA (Reuters) - Israel warned the governing Palestinian faction Hamas that the "sky will fall on them" if they harm a captured soldier after a deadline passed on Tuesday for the Jewish state to accept a prisoner exchange.

7/4/2006 4:56:06 PM

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And nothing happens?

7/5/2006 7:46:53 PM

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the calm before the storm

7/5/2006 9:22:04 PM

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