Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0468094/ http://www.roadtoguantanamomovie.com/
Quote : | "Part drama, part documentary, The Road to Guantánamo focuses on the Tipton Three, a trio of British Muslims who were held in Guantanamo Bay for two years until they were released without charge" |
http://www.mininova.org/tor/268690 (DVDrip, screener)
A movie about innocent people in Gitmo, pure fiction of course.6/28/2006 4:11:07 PM |
boonedocks All American 5550 Posts user info edit post |
Why don't you go burn a flag, Jesus-hater. 6/28/2006 4:12:12 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Unless it has Vin Diesel I don't want to see it. 6/28/2006 4:13:35 PM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
Youre an al-quada. 6/28/2006 4:13:36 PM |
boonedocks All American 5550 Posts user info edit post |
It'll rock if it has Vin Diesel. He'll be headbutting the shit out of all the real terrorists. 6/28/2006 4:20:34 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
needs schwarzennegar 6/28/2006 4:21:13 PM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
needs fewer innocent people being tortured.
[Edited on June 28, 2006 at 4:24 PM. Reason : wait no, thats reality, not the movie ] 6/28/2006 4:24:24 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
how do you know if they're innocent or guilty 6/28/2006 4:28:39 PM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
you would suggest that we released guilty terrorist from gitmo? 6/28/2006 4:29:06 PM |
boonedocks All American 5550 Posts user info edit post |
^^ That's the point. 6/28/2006 4:30:55 PM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
innocent till proven guilty. unless you live in the middle east. 6/28/2006 4:42:36 PM |
ScubaSteve All American 5523 Posts user info edit post |
so they live in the US? 6/28/2006 4:43:43 PM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
one was brittish
[Edited on June 28, 2006 at 4:59 PM. Reason : three] 6/28/2006 4:45:41 PM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
another politically charged dramatization posing as a documentary 6/28/2006 5:49:04 PM |
spöokyjon ℵ 18617 Posts user info edit post |
I'm always a little weirded out by movies that mix documentary and fiction.
And it's not really a good idea to post a link to illegally download an as-yet unreleased film in a thread. 6/28/2006 6:41:18 PM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
linking to other sites that post torrents is 100% legal.
Quote : | "another politically charged dramatization posing as a documentary" |
the tipton three exist. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3509750.stm
most things that happen in the movie (stress positions, ect) are things our government admits to doing.6/29/2006 3:30:50 AM |
spöokyjon ℵ 18617 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "linking to other sites that post torrents is 100% legal. " |
I didn't say linking the torrent was illegal. I said it wasn't a good idea.6/29/2006 11:26:50 AM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Linking the torrent is the first step on the road to Guantanamo. 6/29/2006 11:29:39 AM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
^^ why is it not a good idea? 6/29/2006 12:49:54 PM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
and we won. suck it, gitmo. 6/29/2006 2:28:38 PM |
mathman All American 1631 Posts user info edit post |
^praise Allah, let the Jihad begin. 6/29/2006 7:34:19 PM |
HockeyRoman All American 11811 Posts user info edit post |
Are you woman's coverd and properly subjugated yet? 6/30/2006 1:19:30 AM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
spoken like a true idiot. 6/30/2006 1:32:19 AM |
BoBo All American 3093 Posts user info edit post |
Gitmo is a stain on us all ....
(And let's all hope it doesn't come back to haunt us) ... 6/30/2006 1:45:42 AM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "praise Allah, let the Jihad begin." |
bigot6/30/2006 4:53:58 AM |
Nerdchick All American 37009 Posts user info edit post |
this is a great thread 7/1/2006 10:25:15 AM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
true story 7/1/2006 10:32:35 AM |
Nerdchick All American 37009 Posts user info edit post |
so is it true as in true, or true as in "inspired by true events" 7/1/2006 10:52:08 AM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
true as your blue eyes 7/1/2006 11:31:39 AM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
inspired by true events
aka one-sided, mostly ubsubstantiated claims of torture and abuse 7/1/2006 6:29:36 PM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
yea our government that fights like hell to keep legislation from banning torture passed, isnt torturing people? thats good koolaid.
[Edited on July 1, 2006 at 7:43 PM. Reason : 243] 7/1/2006 7:43:00 PM |
trikk311 All American 2793 Posts user info edit post |
now theres some good proof for ya...way to go "salisburyboy" 7/2/2006 12:24:19 AM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
7/2/2006 8:32:36 AM |
trikk311 All American 2793 Posts user info edit post |
again...we have more rock solid proof that our government has system of torture set up...good job salis 7/2/2006 11:03:43 AM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
you havent proved we dont torture people, salsburyboy.
OH SNAP I TOTALLY NAME-CALLED YOU 7/2/2006 12:07:45 PM |
trikk311 All American 2793 Posts user info edit post |
haha...indeed you did....believe what you want to there homie...but the burden of proof is on you....
a few bad eggs does not equal proof that the evil government has a policy of torturing people
[Edited on July 2, 2006 at 4:19 PM. Reason : asdf] 7/2/2006 4:18:11 PM |
BoBo All American 3093 Posts user info edit post |
trikk311:
Quote : | "a few bad eggs does not equal proof that the evil government has a policy of torturing people" |
Trees <-------> Forest
Of course the movie is biased and one sided, but it is indeed government policy to hold people indefinatly, with no rights, and no access to legal counsel, and no appeal.
This infinate incarceration is unheard of in modern times, and against all international norms.
Of course some will say the system worked. These British citizens, with no ties to Al Qaeda, only spent 2+ years in prison.
It doesn't change the dangerous precedent.7/2/2006 5:26:05 PM |
trikk311 All American 2793 Posts user info edit post |
thanks for that...
holding people indefinately is not torture...all the rights you just mentioned are american rights...(dont flip out about human rights on me)...those are american rights that are afforded to americans under the american constitution...if you can show me that people at guantanimo are americans then we can talk about those rights...
so what if this infinite incarceration is unheard of...better to hold them than to have them running around cutting peoples heads on and blowing themselves up...and lets talk about the dangerous precedent of letting people go who then might turn around and kill 3000 people...now THAT would be a dangerous precedent 7/2/2006 5:47:20 PM |
BoBo All American 3093 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "dont flip out about human rights on me" |
That is exactly what Americans will be talking about, when another country does to us exactly what we are doing.7/2/2006 5:57:10 PM |
roddy All American 25834 Posts user info edit post |
Iraq is already doing it.....cutting the heads off our soldiers, they have there day in court(just like the military trials would of been). They were convicted on the spot, and executed..... 7/2/2006 6:10:23 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " all the rights you just mentioned are american rights...(dont flip out about human rights on me)...those are american rights that are afforded to americans under the american constitution...if you can show me that people at guantanimo are americans then we can talk about those rights... " |
That's a very jihad thing to say.7/2/2006 7:21:38 PM |
BoBo All American 3093 Posts user info edit post |
"They're not Islamic, they're infidels. If you can show me they're islamic, well then we can talk about ...." 7/2/2006 7:35:09 PM |
trikk311 All American 2793 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "That is exactly what Americans will be talking about, when another country does to us exactly what we are doing." |
well hey buddy...when americans start cutting peoples heads off and posting the videos on the internet ...or walking into markets and blowing up 60 women and children....then you might have a point...until then...
and i can just see it now...dont go posting a picture of some muslim being forced to stand up and wear a hood....because that is NOTHING like cutting someones head off...
[Edited on July 2, 2006 at 8:07 PM. Reason : asdf]7/2/2006 8:06:00 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
The Iraq civilian death toll is somewhere around 40,000, at the least.
I don't think the anti-Americans really draw a distinction between the terrorist cutting peoples heads off, and our guys dropping bombs from on high. 7/2/2006 8:14:13 PM |
trikk311 All American 2793 Posts user info edit post |
i do 7/2/2006 8:15:33 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
You do what? Draw a distinction, or think that THEY would draw a distinction? 7/2/2006 8:17:15 PM |
trikk311 All American 2793 Posts user info edit post |
I draw a distinction...
and if you want me to believe that 40,000 Iraqis have been killed by americans ... dream on... you make it sound like americans have killed 40,000 people by dropping bombs on them....most of the dead iraqis are dead because of idiot, barbaric other iraqis who see fit to kill thier own people in some desperate last ditch effort at a power grab...thats not our fault
back to the topic....its better to keep these idiot barbarians somewhere indefinitly ... even if it pisses the people who sympathize with them off... 7/2/2006 9:04:55 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " and if you want me to believe that 40,000 Iraqis have been killed by americans ... dream on... you make it sound like americans have killed 40,000 people by dropping bombs on them....most of the dead iraqis are dead because of idiot, barbaric other iraqis who see fit to kill thier own people in some desperate last ditch effort at a power grab...thats not our fault " |
Even if only 1/3 of the dead Iraqis were caused by us, that's still plenty of reason for them to hate us, and that's probably how they see it too. I doubt they sit around looking for excuses to LIKE us.
Quote : | " its better to keep these idiot barbarians somewhere indefinitly ... even if it pisses the people who sympathize with them off..." |
That line of thinking would be perfectly acceptable to me if they could somehow prove who is the idiot barbarians and who isn't, but that's the problem, they can't. And they don't even seem to be trying either.
When you turn a blind eye to this fact, you become one of those "idiot barbarians".7/2/2006 9:10:31 PM |
BoBo All American 3093 Posts user info edit post |
^ Exactly. That was the real point of the movie. Those Brits were there for a wedding when they were held incognito. If America can prove something, then do it. It's easy to label them all as terrorist extremists, but that has been proven not to be the case. 7/2/2006 9:34:36 PM |
trikk311 All American 2793 Posts user info edit post |
I dont care if they have a reason to hate us or not...the point is that they do hate us and they are trying to kill us...so screw them....america would be remiss if they did anything short of arrest and try anyone who has any terrorist ties to anyone...
i dont know what happened with these Brits....but thats one case...and there might be others...but i am willing to take the chance of incarcerating innocent people if we can arrest and hold anyone remotely tied to a terrorist....
that line of thinking is nothing new...our justice system gets it wrong sometimes too...sometimes innocent people are put in jail...thats a chance that we are all willing to take.. 7/2/2006 10:18:16 PM |