Nerdchick All American 37009 Posts user info edit post |
This summer I've been doing 2 miles 2-4 times a week. I don't run the whole way, I run as far as I can then run/walk the rest. I haven't timed myself yet, but I can now run 1.25 miles without walking.
How can I get better? My goal is 1.5 miles in 14 minutes. I took run conditioning last spring and got my mile time to 10 min. but could only hold that pace for one mile. (don't laugh! )
Are there any exercises that could help my endurance? I can't go to a gym. I could also use some tips on technique, because I'm sure my stride is not what it should be. And if anybody suggests swimming I'll kick them in the butt. 7/21/2006 4:49:32 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
sounds like you're doing it. the more ya run, the more you're able to run. 7/21/2006 4:51:36 PM |
PackMan92 All American 8284 Posts user info edit post |
switch it up a little. do some sprints too. 7/21/2006 4:52:05 PM |
Nerdchick All American 37009 Posts user info edit post |
Oh and I forgot to mention that some days I feel tired and can't even run a whole mile. I don't know if it's just me being lazy, or maybe getting used to the heat, or what! 7/21/2006 4:56:37 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
^ take the car on days like that 7/21/2006 5:08:55 PM |
imhill All American 2290 Posts user info edit post |
Have you looked at this website?
http://coolrunning.com/
[Edited on July 21, 2006 at 5:19 PM. Reason : ] 7/21/2006 5:19:08 PM |
rudeboy All American 3049 Posts user info edit post |
run against time rather than distance. don't worry about running fast, just run continously and dont stop to walk 7/21/2006 5:20:42 PM |
nastoute All American 31058 Posts user info edit post |
i'll give you the heads up
A) it's sucks right now because it's so hot, huh?
B) buy a watch, you're an engineer, take that fucking data
C) pick a distance you can run and time it everytime... it's awesome to see how quickly you'll improve in the beginning
D) i would suggest slowing working up to the point where you can run the entire distance around the eastern loop of lake johnson, 2.82 miles (when they fix that fucker, of course)... for right now you can work up to running 2.64miles, which is the distance from the tucked away parking lot (the .75 miles marker) to the 2.25 mile marker (you're running backwards here) and back. That will be good until they fix the dam
you do this, and you'll be golden 7/21/2006 5:49:49 PM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
make sure your nutrition compliments your workout schedule. 7/21/2006 5:50:14 PM |
nastoute All American 31058 Posts user info edit post |
don't listen to these assholes
you follow my MASTER PLAN, and you'll be the total hottie you deserve to be 7/21/2006 5:51:01 PM |
nastoute All American 31058 Posts user info edit post |
oh and do work out stuff at home on off days
3 days running 3 day push ups and crunchs (you can't go to the gym) interwoven tightly
rest on sunday like god does
[Edited on July 21, 2006 at 5:53 PM. Reason : .] 7/21/2006 5:51:41 PM |
nastoute All American 31058 Posts user info edit post |
oh and eat alot less
skip like 1 meal every 3 days or so
and for christ's sake... no breakfast
you want to eat breakfast, go get a decafe coffee
[Edited on July 21, 2006 at 6:01 PM. Reason : .] 7/21/2006 5:55:54 PM |
Easy Veteran 333 Posts user info edit post |
The suggestion about running for time not for distance is the best. Go out to Centenial Campus behind the middle school and run on the trails. Wear a watch. Run 20 minutes. You will not be able to run it all the first time. Start your watch...run...when you have to walk, stop your watch and walk. Then when you have caught your breath, start your watch and start running again. If you have to walk again, stop the watch...then catch your breath and run again until you have done 20 minutes of running (remember to stop your watch when you walk). Do 20 minutes for 3 weeks, then try for 25 minutes. There is a track out at the middle school too, so you can mix it up sometimes. Run trail sometimes...run track & do conditioning sometimes... 7/21/2006 6:01:28 PM |
Kelly4NCSt8 All American 1115 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "run against time rather than distance. don't worry about running fast, just run continously and dont stop to walk" |
that's the best advice for learning to increase your endurance
focus on continuing a running pace for as long of a time as you can rather than trying to reach a particular distance.
tell yourself you'll run for 30 minutes rather than 2 miles for example (or whatever) build up the minutes rather than the distance as the days progress
eventually you'll be running a good distance a lot easier7/21/2006 6:04:56 PM |
coolbeans All American 2173 Posts user info edit post |
breathing technique matters a lot. cadence breathing will help you. ask google 7/21/2006 6:24:42 PM |
Restricted All American 15537 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "
oh and eat alot less
skip like 1 meal every 3 days or so
and for christ's sake... no breakfast
you want to eat breakfast, go get a decafe coffee " |
I hope that is a joke7/21/2006 6:27:05 PM |
Lokken All American 13361 Posts user info edit post |
gonna need to do it more than twice a week. 4 minimum i would suggest.
and yes, go for time and endurance. distance will come. 7/21/2006 6:55:19 PM |
winn123 All American 1160 Posts user info edit post |
i like to build my endurance by doing some interval running....i jog for 2 minutes (or however long you'd like) then run at a much faster (near sprint) pace for 30 seconds or a minute then jog 2 minutes and so on, alternating between sprints and jog. seems to work for me...good luck 7/21/2006 7:02:09 PM |
PackMan92 All American 8284 Posts user info edit post |
^^^as do I... 7/21/2006 7:52:19 PM |
sylvershadow All American 7049 Posts user info edit post |
Don't do too much too often. If I were you, I'd try to do some other exercises, like yoga, aerobics, tennis/raquetball, swimming or something just to use different muscles. I've known several people who start running and havent ever really run much and they get knee problems. Running is really high impact, and in my opinion, you need to take it easy on the joints...
But, good luck! 7/21/2006 8:19:00 PM |
zxappeal All American 26824 Posts user info edit post |
Doc says I need to start exercising BADLY.
I don't think I could run a 1/4 mile. 7/21/2006 9:01:48 PM |
civilengrjen All American 4295 Posts user info edit post |
I used a beginners guide for a 5k... basically you warmup 5 mins walking, run 1 min, walk 1 min for a week. Each week you'll increase your run time mins (2, 3, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 15, 18, 20) until you get to 20 mins. You could start where ever in that plan until you build up to whatever time you want.
I started out not being able to run 2 mins without thinking I was going to die, and I ran a 5k last weekend in 34 mins. 7/21/2006 9:09:28 PM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
exactly....just run as far as you can, then, the next time, add .2 miles.....or add 2 mins
its a simple formula, you must simlpy stick to your goals, even if you feel as though your body is going to die 7/21/2006 9:18:35 PM |
Amsterdam718 All American 15134 Posts user info edit post |
just run, G. running & conditioning was an awesome class. THEY KEY IS CONSISTENCY. everyone will suggest something different. i say just be CONSISTENT with whatever you do and you'll be fine.
a little ab work would help and so would getting some free weights. 7/21/2006 10:59:14 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
just hang out with black people 7/21/2006 11:22:29 PM |
CharlesHF All American 5543 Posts user info edit post |
A 5k in 34 minutes? Damn I hope that's a joke. My fastest 5k time was 21:30 and I was pretty slow...
Nerdchick, you need to learn to just push yourself out of your comfort zone. That's the only way you'll improve. In high school my cross country coach told us about this one girl he saw at a meet. He talked to her coach about her--apparently her dad made her run during the summer--she would run 10 miles per day. But she never did it quickly, so when XC season came around, even though she ran 10 miles/day she was the slowest person on the team. So, like I said, get out of your comfort zone.
No whining about how tired you get or how hot it is. When I ran XC in high school, we'd do 200m sprints for 2 hours in the 105ยบ heat and 95%+ humidity with the sun blazing, on the hot track. Or we'd run up and down the football bleachers for 2 hours. Or we'd just go run for an hour...through the woods and through some subdivision. On those days I'd occasionally get runner's high...and damn that's a good feeling. No whining from you, come back one year.
If you actually want to get serious about it, stop drinking sodas if you currently drink them. Drink LOTS of water, all day long--not just before you run. I'm talking several bottles worth...at least 4 or 5. Preferably, drink only water and nothing else--no sodas or alcohol--just water.
[Edited on July 21, 2006 at 11:41 PM. Reason : ] 7/21/2006 11:39:26 PM |
firmbuttgntl Suspended 11931 Posts user info edit post |
The more you workout Nerdchick the stronger you get in theory, try running farther longer next time, if you have to walk at times do it, tho. And don't forget water, the weather will kill you 7/21/2006 11:47:19 PM |
CharlesHF All American 5543 Posts user info edit post |
^ another example of not reading the thread. 7/21/2006 11:50:11 PM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
dont run outside if the heat is killing you 7/21/2006 11:53:49 PM |
Amsterdam718 All American 15134 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "just run, G. running & conditioning was an awesome class. THEY KEY IS CONSISTENCY. everyone will suggest something different. i say just be CONSISTENT with whatever you do and you'll be fine." |
7/22/2006 3:16:32 AM |
CharlesHF All American 5543 Posts user info edit post |
Consistency is why she's still a slowpoke. Spice it up a bit! Do sprints on alternate days or something... 7/22/2006 8:23:15 AM |
schmitter5 All American 2169 Posts user info edit post |
just broke 19min today for the 5k, ha still slow though compared to competitive runners, oh well 7/22/2006 1:14:34 PM |
nastoute All American 31058 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I hope that is a joke" |
NO, it's not a joke
sometimes, you need to not focus on what other people think is right
and just try to fucking do it7/22/2006 1:31:28 PM |
stantheman All American 1591 Posts user info edit post |
^Skipping breakfast everyday is the stupidest piece of advice in this thread. If you do that, you're just going to feel sluggish throughout the morning and you'll likely overeat when lunchtime rolls around. Why do you think doctors advise seriously obese patients to eat 4-5 smaller meals a day rather than 2-3 large ones? I could explain why skipping meals or fasting will result in weight gain in most people, but I don't feel like writing an essay.
If you're on a serious workout schedule, the last thing you should do is start skipping meals. Just eat some fresh fruit in the mornings (you'll burn it off in a couple of hours) and ignore anyone who tells you to eat fewer meals. Cutting out fast food and eating more ruffage isn't a bad idea. 7/22/2006 2:21:53 PM |
seapunky All American 10015 Posts user info edit post |
when you get too tired to run anymore, tell yourself that failure is not an option... works for me every time. when i first started exercising, i could do 5 minutes of cardio, now i can go for an hour and a half to an hour and 45 minutes at a time and still have energy to spare. it's all in your head. don't let a few pounds of skin and bone and muscle tell you what to do... put mind over matter.
[Edited on July 23, 2006 at 12:15 AM. Reason : and also some really good music might help? ] 7/23/2006 12:13:46 AM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
in my case, i think i just smoke too many cigarettes 7/23/2006 12:29:58 AM |
seapunky All American 10015 Posts user info edit post |
i smoke almost a pack a day too 7/23/2006 12:37:47 AM |
stategrad100 All American 6606 Posts user info edit post |
Since nobody mentioned it - lifting weights isn't bad either. It seems like girls are always afraid of lifting weights because they think they'll get bulky; that's not true! It only makes girls more tone unless they do something abnormal. Lifting weights builds lean muscle mass and increases metabolic rate. 7/23/2006 1:32:01 AM |
stategrad100 All American 6606 Posts user info edit post |
Oops, sorry, Amsterdam718 mentioned it, but I second that notion - weights will help you in training greatly whether you're male or female. 7/23/2006 1:51:19 AM |
EhSteve All American 7240 Posts user info edit post |
ride a bike every few days instead of running. 7/23/2006 2:08:05 AM |
bassman803 All American 16965 Posts user info edit post |
cutting soft drinks out of your diet is just an all-around smart move to make 7/23/2006 5:56:25 AM |
RhoIsWar1096 All American 3857 Posts user info edit post |
and caffeine too, because it makes your body hold onto water 7/23/2006 7:23:12 AM |
Maverick All American 11175 Posts user info edit post |
I worked up from never running in High School to running marathons in college. In your initial phases, you will need a run buddy. Someone who won't let you quit. Secondly, find a nice trail that has no option of turning back--Lake Johnson has plenty of great places to run. Watch your diet also--as mentioned earlier, cut out the soft drinks and whatnot. You'll find that once you start losing a lot of that extra weight, it's a lot easier to run. Also, a lot of people find ways to distract themselves while running--MP3 players or simply thinking about everything you need to accomplish. You'll be surprised at how well you think while you run.
As also mentioned, in the summer you will need to run in the early morning. You run best at around 50-60 degrees. Outside that range on either end, you start to slow down and lose endurance AND speed. Try also taking a Camelback or something like that with you to get water while you run.
[Edited on July 23, 2006 at 11:16 AM. Reason : .] 7/23/2006 11:14:49 AM |
Lewizzle All American 14393 Posts user info edit post |
Get an I-Pod. 7/23/2006 11:16:57 AM |
roddy All American 25834 Posts user info edit post |
run around 11pm or midnight, when it is cool When i was in Texas for 5 months it was hot as hell during the day, but around 11 or 12 at night it felt good. 7/23/2006 1:24:58 PM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
I don't mean to be a dick at all here but i got an award in kindergarten for breaking a ten minute mile...
it sounds like you are either way too out of shape or too heavy to be running.
Running is bad for your joints and potentially you could damage your health about as much as you can help it.
You'd be much better up pursuing walking or swimming for your cardio health and avoid all the shin splints, ankle wear, etc that running will give you...
it's also much easier to improve and stay committed to those two activities...
[Edited on July 23, 2006 at 1:36 PM. Reason : a] 7/23/2006 1:27:30 PM |
nastoute All American 31058 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, you are being a dick 7/23/2006 1:41:35 PM |
Nerdchick All American 37009 Posts user info edit post |
Thanks for the advice everybody! Guess I'll have to give in and buy a digital watch.
Just to answer some of the things that have been mentioned . . .
I'm living in Virginia right now. So far I have been running on a dirt trail around a lake similar to Lake Johnson. I run from the start marker to the 1 mile marker and back. I've gotten a lot better at hills, the hills aren't big but previously I couldn't make it up one.
My diet is very healthy. I switched my bread & pasta to whole wheat. The only fluids I drink are water, skim milk, and coffee (1 cup a day). Also I eat lots of raw fruit & vegetables. Once a week I'll eat a pint of ice cream, but that is my only dessert. This is the healthiest I have ever eaten in my entire life. I'm gaining weight though WTF is wrong with me?
For run conditioning, we had to do a 10k. I ended up doing 2 of them, because my mom signed me up for another one. In both of them my time was 1:15 I didn't run the whole way though.
And as for swimming, I happen to know that it's not going to help. I've been doing that my entire life! I was always best at distance/endurace events in swimming, for example I did a 5 mile swim last year. Does that mean that I'll be able to do distance running? ] 7/23/2006 2:58:26 PM |
stategrad100 All American 6606 Posts user info edit post |
You're probably gaining poundage because your increased activity is increasing your muscle mass. Don't forget that muscle weighs more than fat. Consider not eating at night and drinking more water in case you get hungry while you're trying to sleep. 7/23/2006 3:06:37 PM |
miska All American 22242 Posts user info edit post |
set em up!
try using an elliptical machine instead of running, it's better on joints and stuff (so a doc told my mom after her knee surgery)] 7/23/2006 3:20:57 PM |