Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
is it just me or is this a ridiculous idea
seems like everyone is going crazy just because he's had a rough few weeks
this happening at the trading deadline has only increased the media fury 7/23/2006 11:21:48 PM |
BoobsR_gr8 All American 30000 Posts user info edit post |
we (tigers) will take him 7/23/2006 11:24:52 PM |
REDWOLF All American 790 Posts user info edit post |
This is going on because the NY fans are a bunch of shi$\ heads. The guy is last years MVP and a very good hitter. If the NY fans want to get bent out of shape why not put that "GOD" Jeter over at 3rd. Talk about over rated. This guys is no where near the numbers that Alex has put up but gets a pass.
[Edited on July 23, 2006 at 11:27 PM. Reason : .] 7/23/2006 11:26:43 PM |
BoobsR_gr8 All American 30000 Posts user info edit post |
wtf are you talking about
jeter is the best all around baseball player in the last decade 7/23/2006 11:29:44 PM |
The Dude All American 6502 Posts user info edit post |
only the yankees would pay that kind of money for Arod right now and the yankees asking price for him would be rediculous
the tigers have some money to spend but they would have to give up one of their good young pitchers
[Edited on July 23, 2006 at 11:31 PM. Reason : ^i call bullshit] 7/23/2006 11:30:33 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on July 23, 2006 at 11:31 PM. Reason : ]
7/23/2006 11:30:56 PM |
BoobsR_gr8 All American 30000 Posts user info edit post |
id rather have jeter on my team above every player except for pujols
^^ dont fuck with me on baseball
[Edited on July 23, 2006 at 11:32 PM. Reason : ,] 7/23/2006 11:32:06 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
ngaplz
i'd take the real a rod over jeter any day of the week
and i'd start my team with johan santana 7/23/2006 11:33:50 PM |
The Dude All American 6502 Posts user info edit post |
i'd say pujols has been better since 2000 then i'd say jeter as far as all around player
[Edited on July 23, 2006 at 11:35 PM. Reason : i'd start my team with liriano or pujols] 7/23/2006 11:34:53 PM |
BoobsR_gr8 All American 30000 Posts user info edit post |
no better clubhouse guy or all around player than jeter
santana is going to not make it into his 30s with the torque he puts on his shoulder 7/23/2006 11:35:01 PM |
BoobsR_gr8 All American 30000 Posts user info edit post |
pujols is by far the better hitter, but pujols is not a leader nor a great baserunner or fielder 7/23/2006 11:35:42 PM |
The Dude All American 6502 Posts user info edit post |
jeter has way better defense jeter only a little better clubhouse guy
but pujols is a better hitter than anyone by far
[Edited on July 23, 2006 at 11:38 PM. Reason : ^he does lack speed but the bat makes up for everything] 7/23/2006 11:38:01 PM |
BoobsR_gr8 All American 30000 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "jeter only a little better clubhouse guy" |
are you fucking kidding me?
btw jeter is also one of the most clutch players ever
[Edited on July 23, 2006 at 11:39 PM. Reason : ,]7/23/2006 11:39:09 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
jeter vs. a rod, WARP since 2000
YEAR Jeter Rodriguez 2000 5.8 12.1 2001 5.5 11.7 2002 5.5 11.5 2003 3.5 10.8 2004 6.3 8.0 2005 9.4 10.6 2006 4.5 3.2 CAREER 64.2 101.3
you can't argue with that
give me a rod7/23/2006 11:39:16 PM |
BoobsR_gr8 All American 30000 Posts user info edit post |
omg the best hitters are the best players omg 7/23/2006 11:40:31 PM |
The Dude All American 6502 Posts user info edit post |
pujols and jeter are both good leader and model citizens/baseball players
the difference is not too great 7/23/2006 11:40:59 PM |
BoobsR_gr8 All American 30000 Posts user info edit post |
dude pujols is not a clubhouse leader, the biggest knock on him is he is not outspoken and isolates himself 7/23/2006 11:42:06 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "omg the best hitters are the best players omg" |
you obviously aren't very familiar with WARP stats7/23/2006 11:43:14 PM |
BoobsR_gr8 All American 30000 Posts user info edit post |
i was responding to Quote : | "but pujols is a better hitter than anyone by far " |
7/23/2006 11:43:57 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
ps
Quote : | "btw jeter is also one of the most clutch players ever" |
how do you define clutch?
there's no such thing7/23/2006 11:46:09 PM |
BoobsR_gr8 All American 30000 Posts user info edit post |
the WARP stat is ignorant to the changes in lineup structure and many other intricacies 7/23/2006 11:46:36 PM |
BoobsR_gr8 All American 30000 Posts user info edit post |
how about playoff ARSP, playoff BA, GW RBI 7/23/2006 11:47:27 PM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
Im sorry dude but taking Jeter over Arod is pretty silly.
Jeter is a singles hitter.
Arod is a power hitter who normally hits for high average and he's the superior defensive SS as well.
ARod at like $16 million a season is a good deal for the Yankees. Jeter at $20 million is a complete ripoff.
I know that you know a lot about baseball boobs, but you're out of your mind on this one... 7/23/2006 11:51:11 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
not to mention the rangers are still eating the majority of his salary 7/23/2006 11:52:17 PM |
BoobsR_gr8 All American 30000 Posts user info edit post |
idk mebbe it is my experience from playing so long to have more respect for what jeter does on a day to day basis, while balancing the team 7/23/2006 11:55:11 PM |
BoobsR_gr8 All American 30000 Posts user info edit post |
not to mention, A-rod the 3B is not as spectacular compared to his positional peers
[Edited on July 23, 2006 at 11:57 PM. Reason : sleepy time ] 7/23/2006 11:56:08 PM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
Jeter is a solid player and there's no doubt he's a proven playoff performer.
But jeter's name will never enter an MVP discussion, his gold gloves are laughable because he consistently finishes near the bottom in range, and honestly his OPS and SLG numbers just get dwarved by ARod's...
Add that to the fact the Yankees are actually paying more for Jeter's services than they are ARod's...
[Edited on July 23, 2006 at 11:59 PM. Reason : a] 7/23/2006 11:59:13 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
yeah i'd have to go with a-rod on this 7/24/2006 12:06:49 AM |
nrmiller All American 5314 Posts user info edit post |
Jeter has been one of the few constants for the Yankees over the years and that has been invaluable to them. They are paying out the ass for him now to make up for underpaying him in his prime.
I just made that up. 7/24/2006 12:12:17 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
obviously
jeter has been making $5m since 99 $10m since 2000 and $15m since 2003 7/24/2006 12:30:04 AM |
erice85 All American 4549 Posts user info edit post |
i'd have to go with A-Rod and if he were on my team, i'd put his ass back at SS since he obviously boots the ball around at 3rd 7/24/2006 12:37:50 AM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "but pujols is not a leader nor a great baserunner or fielder" |
What kind of jibberish is this?
He has led MLB in runs the past 2 years. He is a SMART and solid baserunner. He stole like 15 bases last year which is good for a power-hitting 1st basemen.
Pujols is a clutch player and SHOULD win the NL Gold Glove at first this year, his fielding is as good as any 1st basemen now.7/24/2006 1:13:21 AM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
not a good fielder?!?!?!? 7/24/2006 1:16:53 AM |
Fermata All American 3771 Posts user info edit post |
Considering that first base is where power hitters go to die..... 7/24/2006 2:56:40 AM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
A-Rod to Gloucestershire Cricket Club for Cristiano Ronaldo to New York Red Bulls. 7/24/2006 3:09:57 AM |
Fermata All American 3771 Posts user info edit post |
Cap relief, obviously. 7/24/2006 3:15:37 AM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
I like arod just where he is.. It's fun to watch him implode and take the yanquis with him! 7/24/2006 5:35:52 AM |
Konami All American 10855 Posts user info edit post |
^I like your thinking. 7/24/2006 5:47:00 AM |
msb2ncsu All American 14033 Posts user info edit post |
ARod isn't going anywhere. (and I'd take him over Jeter too) 7/24/2006 9:47:44 AM |
phishnlou All American 13446 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Pujols is a clutch player and SHOULD win the NL Gold Glove at first this year, his fielding is as good as any 1st basemen now." |
because Lee didn't play enough games7/24/2006 9:56:43 AM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
rallydurham wins this argument. Jeter's defense is super over-rated and he'll never put up the OPS that A-Rod does. I'd take A-Rod over Jeter every day of the week unless you needed someone for a team like the Phillies that needs a leader and already has hitting. In a situation like that I'd consider Jeter. 7/24/2006 10:06:03 AM |
BoobsR_gr8 All American 30000 Posts user info edit post |
A-Rod the SS is a different story than A-Rod the 3B
I still take jeter the SS over A-Rod the 3B 7/24/2006 11:46:23 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
this thread is not about a rod vs jeter 7/24/2006 1:02:59 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "no better clubhouse guy or all around player than jeter" |
I hate this shit. How do you really know this? Because of what you read in the newspapers and see on tv? Who the hell knows who the best "clubhouse guy" is in the MLB (whatever the fuck that means)
And while having a guy that gets along with teammates, leads by example, etc... certainly isn't a bad thing... it doesn't exactly win games.7/24/2006 5:40:29 PM |
BoobsR_gr8 All American 30000 Posts user info edit post |
because former cardinals have said that pujols is basically passive in the clubhouse 7/24/2006 7:25:41 PM |