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fatcatt316
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Maybe you’ve watched that amazing 15 minute demo video on the official RoR site or maybe you’ve already installed Ruby and Rails and setup a web app in under an hour. Either way you are frustrated with repetitive tasks Java/JSP, PHP and the like force you to endure and you want some RoR. Raleigh on Rails is now taking registration for an 'Introduction to Ruby on Rails' training course October 2nd to October 5th, 2006 in Raleigh, NC. The course will be led by acclaimed author and trainer Dr. David A. Black whose recently published book 'Ruby for Rails' has been rated 10 out of 10 by Slashdot. " A stunningly well written explanation of real-world Ruby skills for Rails development."

http://www.raleighonrails.com

Feel free to contact us if you or a friend is interested and we’ll be happy to chat with you about it.

9/1/2006 10:15:24 AM

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good lord thats alot of money

9/1/2006 10:18:30 AM

fatcatt316
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Yeah, it's not cheap. But you get what you pay for, and this guy is very good at teaching these courses.

9/1/2006 10:34:46 AM

robster
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wow

Or just go to bitme.org and download the vids for free.

9/1/2006 10:35:18 AM

fatcatt316
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But then you wouldn't get a free t-shirt!!!!

The main reason to go would be to learn a lot about RoR in a short time and be taught by one of the experts in person.

9/1/2006 10:42:00 AM

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n/m

[Edited on September 1, 2006 at 12:45 PM. Reason : .]

9/1/2006 12:43:35 PM

Perlith
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"October 2-5, 2006

$1200 Early Registration (up to 2 wks before class)
$1000 Team Registration (teams of 5+)
$1400 Regular Registration"


4 days for $1200 ... I've seen worse. What type of training materials will be available? Snacks/Lunches? Etc.

9/1/2006 1:10:12 PM

fatcatt316
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It's probably going to be continental breakfasts and also lunches.

9/1/2006 1:44:30 PM

Noen
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geeeeze thats a big chunk of change.

For a technology that's supposed to be "so easy to learn", doesn't is seem a little counterintuitive to even have such a massive (and expensive) training seminar to learn it?

9/1/2006 3:45:50 PM

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^ heh, there are seminars for everything that people can learn themselves but are too lazy to do. for some reason people LIKE paying lots of money to be trained, i think it makes them feel important to be able to say how much they spent on "training".

of course, there -are- some great places to learn that are expensive as well, but i'm only speaking as far as things such as Ruby, and PHP ... there's just no good substitute for sitting down and learning it yourself. and then practicing, a lot. far cheaper that way too

9/1/2006 3:54:43 PM

CaelNCSU
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^^

The JBoss seminars are like 2500 for 4 days.

9/1/2006 5:55:21 PM

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Depending on how you learn, sometimes it helps to be in an environment where you can be interactive with an instructor. I took some Novell training 2 years ago, and I benefited from being able to ask and get direct feedback on a variety of questions. If you're learning that on your own, sometimes it's harder to get quick answers to things you don't understand fully.

9/1/2006 6:25:44 PM

skokiaan
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my company is rich. they don't give a shit about paying for classes like this.

9/1/2006 6:26:18 PM

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Yeah, this is clearly not a course geared towards students.

Corporations regularly shell out megabux to get their engineers up to speed for high-priority tasks.

Consider: An engineer earning $60,000 per year is earning $1200 a week ANYWAY. This doesn't include overhead costs!

If a single week of class is going to drastically increase his/her productivity on a 12-month project, that is money well spent.

9/3/2006 10:15:23 AM

benz240
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ror, internet!

9/3/2006 3:25:47 PM

fatcatt316
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Yeah, I personally wouldn't pay it, but the company I'm it is paying for me.

And yeah, you could learn it on your own, but I'm sure it's a ton faster this way.

9/7/2006 12:34:24 PM

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^x8. I agree. Learning to use RoR for simple webapps is easy, however trying to use it for more robust apps is not easy from my experience. I could see a class helping in this case - dont mean to cockblock, but if he is just gonna run through some basic labs to learn the technology there are plenty of free tutorials out there that will force you to acutally learn the shit. if ur company is paying for it tho - no brainer.

9/7/2006 6:01:02 PM

Noen
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The site doesn't give times, lesson plans or anything other than an extremely vague synopsis of activities. And judging by that, it looks like a course for someone who's never touched RoR or anything similar before. The fact there is now an "Advanced" training course coming soon reinforces my stance that it's a lot of money to hear a famous guy teach you the basics.

And just because a company is willing to foot the bill for training doesn't make it worthwhile or necessary. That 1000 bucks is coming from somewhere, I'd rather it go into my wallet as a year end bonus.

9/7/2006 7:12:49 PM

CaelNCSU
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^^
I don't really see how developing a robust web app in it will be "hard". I am still in the fairly early stages but I setup some pretty complex things in like 3 lines of code. I can input things into like 4 tables at once in like 2 lines. I am floored how you can traverse my whole database complete with boat loads of many to many relationships in like 1 line of code. I demoed my first version to the group I'm working for today and they were impressed.

I recommend the Ruby Cookbook coupled with Ruby on Rails O'reilly books. The PDFs make good references.


[Edited on September 8, 2006 at 7:41 PM. Reason : a]

9/8/2006 7:26:14 PM

fatcatt316
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Yeah, I think there's actually been at least 10 people interested in the advanced training so far.

9/10/2006 2:29:18 PM

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