Rottweiler to a good home:

Not sure if i should post this here or in the classifieds but i figured more peole would see it here
(sorry so long)

Yesterday I went to wake county Animal Control to look for a cat, after looking around a bit my boyfriend and I walked through the dog kennels. We found the most beautiful 2 year old female Rottie named Roxy. We asked the volunteers there if we could play with her a bit…. With in minutes we feel in love with her. She is such a sweet heart… we played fetch and gave her some much needed love. We talked to the people there and she had been dropped off by her previous owners because they were “moving and couldn’t take her”. She obviously has not been taken care of as she is about 20 pounds underweight. The people there said her days are very limited and I had to beg the manager today to promise she would be there tomorrow.
I have not been able to get her off my mind and told some co-workers about her today. Well… with the help of some great people I have raised all the money to adopt her tomorrow. I can fill the paper work out tomorrow, she will be spayed on Thursday, and I can pick her up Friday.

Ok so this is where I need help! I need to find a good home for this sweet girl. I would love to take her but I already have a 100 pound Doberman in a apartment and don’t have room for another big dog. If anyone can give her a good FOREVER home please let me know. I just cant let her be killed with out at least trying to give her a second chance. She is a great dog and I know will make someone very happy!

She is free! I will provide the money for the adoption a collar and maybe a food bowl. Just remember a big dog like this is not cheap and needs lots of attention!

Please help Roxy!

[Edited on October 2, 2006 at 9:45 PM. Reason : can't type]

10/2/2006 9:45:02 PM

Those dogs are incredibly powerful and brutal. That breed is very agressive, im not so sure about this one. Im sorry, but my expectations cannot override that reputation.

10/2/2006 9:52:41 PM

People that have been around this "aggressive breed" know better.

Any dog can be mean but yes Rottie have the strength that IF they are mean they can be dangerous. They can also be fantastic dogs. I deal with people thinking my Doberman is vicious every day..... If they only knew what a huge wuss he is!

10/2/2006 9:57:37 PM

I grew up with a pure bred show quality Rottweiler as a family pet and out of all of the dogs that my family owned (including the dogs that we bred and raised), the Rottweiler is my absolute favorite.

They are extremely powerful dogs that require a confident dog savvy owner and proper training, but they are extremely loyal family oriented dogs that make great companions. Because Rottweilers are such powerful dogs that are distrustful of strangers and protective of their family (especially children), this training is a must, but that does not make the breed inherantly brutal or agressive.

Their bad reputation can be blamed primarily on movies and television shows that have shown these dogs as being big and bad. Not to mention there are a handful of backyard breeders who breed their dogs for a certain temperment to cater to a specific kind of owner that trains these dogs to be aggressive and brutal fighting dogs or guard dogs.

The Rottweilers that I have been around really live up to the breed standard:

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"The Rottweiler is basically a calm, confident and courageous dog with a self-assured aloofness that does not lend itself to immediate and indiscriminate friendships. A Rottweiler is self-confident and responds quietly and with a wait-and-see attitude to influences in his environment. He has an inherent desire to protect home and family, and is an intelligent dog of extreme hardness and adaptability with a strong willingness to work, making him especially suited as a companion, guardian and general all-purpose dog. "

10/2/2006 10:11:14 PM

Contact http://www.ncrottierescue.net/html/contact_us.html

They are in serious need of foster homes. At the least, I am sure they can post this dog as a referal on their website. Good luck and Congrats on saving this baby! That is awesome!

10/2/2006 10:35:41 PM

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" Their bad reputation can be blamed primarily on movies and television shows that have shown these dogs as being big and bad. "

I took the time to post a couple of links to show how sweet these dogs are.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/09/24/uk.rottweilers.reut/index.html?section=cnn_topstories

Thats a sweet little doggy. How bout this one

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_go1993/is_200312/ai_n6640454

Killed a couple of llamas. Still a good pet? meh do you know that many top insurance agencie will reject your request if you own one? These dogs are banned in many neighborhoods.

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10/2/2006 10:36:12 PM

Do you know if they can check her hips for you? Something like that could be an underlying reason for dumping her (that stuff gets expensive to care for) and this breed is notorious for such problems.

10/2/2006 10:45:29 PM

Having had a great deal of experience with Rottweilers, I personally believe that Rottweilers are only bad dog when they are in the possession of irresponsible and ill-prepared people just like any other dog. The real difference just comes down to the strength and size of the Rottie. Rottweilers are extremely strong and powerful dogs that are often 100 pounds of muscle. Any dog that is untrained or improperly trained can become difficult to control. Unfortunately, a 100 pound Rottweiler just is not the same thing as a 30 pound yipping mutt or a snarling 5 pound Yorkie. Any dog can become a bad dog when in the possession of the wrong owner.

Also, small children who are attacked by large dogs are usually not use to being around large dogs and somehow provoke the attack. Lots of small children are bitten by smaller dogs because they either stepped on the dogs foot or pulled on the dogs ears and tail. However, a small dog that turns and snaps isn't going to cause the same kind of injury that a large dog will.

And to speak to the issue of aggression:

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"Rottweilers are not naturally aggressive. Rottweilers are protective and easily trainable and their natural guarding instincts can be misinterpreted as aggression by those who do not understand the breed itself. Some people find it exciting to have an aggressive or vicious dog that will bite anyone who doesn't belong on their property. This is where the Rottweiler obtains it's bad image. Aggression is a learned trait, not an inherited one. Many people over stimulate the breed's protective instincts by training them to guard or even by encouraging them to bark or bite strangers. This can produce a dog too tough for the average person to handle. The Rottweiler as a family companion does not need to be taught to protect. If there ever came a time when the family was truly threatened, the Rottweiler would not need encouragement to keep it's family safe. "

Lake Norman Rottie Rescue

10/2/2006 11:07:11 PM

Oh great, now Earl's stupidity is spilling out of sports talk.

how the fuck did this kid get into college?

10/2/2006 11:16:11 PM

PM sent!!!

10/2/2006 11:23:40 PM

That breed is just so muscular and powerful and agile. I just couldnt trust it around something so tender as a toddler. Maybe thats just me.

10/2/2006 11:36:22 PM

My parents used to raise rottweilers. Our female was 155lbs and the male (her son) was 165lbs. The only time they showed any hint of aggression towards people were if a stranger came near the fence. If you take the time to properly socialize the dog, you won't have any problems with it.

10/2/2006 11:40:31 PM

Even if the animal isnt agressive, its natural size and bulk could harm a kid. Even a simple graze while running or playing could injure a child. 155lbs is pretty huge for a house dog around a 30 lb kid.

I would consider the toy breed around children. Rottweilers are just to muscular and unpredictable. If that thing every got provoked, you had better batten down your hatches,lol. I just couldnt deal with that around a kid,man.

[Edited on October 3, 2006 at 12:05 AM. Reason : .]

10/2/2006 11:53:05 PM

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"You will never find a better family companion than a Rottweiler. They are not only great with children of all ages, but their "herding" nature will keep a small child from wandering off, if left unsupervised. --Lake Norman Rottweiler Rescue"

They go on to state that the key is teaching young children how to play with and interact with a large breed dog.

My brother and I grew up with our Rottweiler. We were let out into the backyard to play with her as very small children completely unsupervised. She never threatened us and was extremely protective of us. The most harm that we ever came to was occationally being pushed off of our feet from her nudging us in the direction she wanted us to go.

I would trust my child with a properly trained Rottweiler before I would trust my child with any small breed dog. Small breed dogs are not recommended for children and the SPCA and other rescue groups DISCOURAGE people from getting small dogs for their children. Children are usually too loud, rambunctious, and rough for a small dog. And small dogs are prone to nipping, biting, and attacking because their teeth is their only protection because of their stature.

[Edited on October 3, 2006 at 12:13 AM. Reason : .]

10/3/2006 12:10:15 AM

True, but this is a dog from a homless shelter. There is no telling what this dog has been programed to do. He could virtually snap a child into at any given moment. The animal could have phobias, you never know.

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"but their "herding" nature will keep a small child from wandering off, if left unsupervised"

How a rottweiler heards a child, I don't wish to know. I don't think anyone does.

10/3/2006 12:13:28 AM

They use their body and their head to crowd and nudge.

10/3/2006 12:14:52 AM

Well, I personally wouldn't leave a small child around any dog unsupervised. I still have a scar over my eye from when I was small. I tried to ride our doberman like a horse and she happened to be in heat. Bad day. It frustrates me to see good animals having to be put down because jackasses buy them and neglect them.

10/3/2006 12:17:36 AM

The pussification of America continues....

10/3/2006 12:18:43 AM

Rotties one of my favorite dogs. My other big favorite is the Pit Bull Terrier.

10/3/2006 12:18:53 AM

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"Those dogs are incredibly powerful and brutal. That breed is very agressive, im not so sure about this one. Im sorry, but my expectations cannot override that reputation. "

if you have ever been around rottweilers (i grew up with two different ones) then you would know that they aren't particularly agressive... trained right, they are some of the most loyal and chill dogs you can find...

when I get a big enough place (graduate, get a house, etc)... rest assured that I will own a rotty and a brindle pit bull... both from responsible and well known breeders, both of which will be trained properly... for those of you against pits... everything you hear and read isn't true... trained right, they are also amazing dogs...


[Edited on October 3, 2006 at 2:08 AM. Reason : .]

10/3/2006 2:05:39 AM

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"Because Rottweilers are such powerful dogs that are distrustful of strangers and protective of their family (especially children)"

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"He has an inherent desire to protect home and family"

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"Rottweilers are protective and easily trainable and their natural guarding instincts can be misinterpreted as aggression by those who do not understand the breed itself."

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"She never threatened us and was extremely protective of us."

You do realize that your dog is the real threat every time it "protects" you from someone who isn't actually threatening you, right? I'm a hiker, jogger, and a mountain biker and I've been threatened by several dogs in the past year. I've gotten quite sick of dogs "protecting" their owners from me at Lake Johnson, Falls Lake, public sidewalks, etc.

I've met a few Rotts that were total sweethearts...Same with Pitts. But, you can't convince me that aggressive breeds aren't a liability. They didn't get their reputation by being sweet and cuddly.

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10/3/2006 2:10:07 AM

this broke my heart

10/3/2006 2:13:36 AM

^^ by your definition, every breed you run into at the lake is agressive...



[Edited on October 3, 2006 at 2:18 AM. Reason : .]

10/3/2006 2:13:48 AM

I'm just pointing out that being "protective" to you often means being a menace to others such as myself. The rottweiler lovers are the ones who are claiming they are protective...Not me.

I don't need a dog to protect me. I love dogs, but if I ever own one I'll look out for it; not the other way around.

10/3/2006 2:32:05 AM

Well, I grew up ten miles outside of the city limits in an extremely rural area where we owned a majority of the land and our closest neighbor was close to a mile away. Our house had been broken into several times in broad daylight while we were in town because there is no one close by to even report suspicious activity.

Our Rottie was confined to fenced in area that she would not leave even if the gate was left open. She never threatened a pedestrian or biker who happened to come by our house. She only gave an alert bark when they entered the yard and did not become a threat until they entered the fenced in area without one of us being present. No one broke in to our house after she became a part of our family and she never harmed a single person.

10/3/2006 2:33:37 AM

Good for you.

My mom had a friend who had a rott that was a total puss except that it would flip out at the sight of someone on a bicycle. He tried everything he could think of including spending a lot of time riding a bike around his yard trying to break the dog of it's habit. One day it got out, mauled a kid, and was put to sleep.

I have other friends who took in a rott in a very similar situation to this one. It has been a total sweetheart every time I've been around it and it is unbelievably docile. It also killed one of their cats while they were on vacation and bit my girlfriend's dog while playing unsupervised, leaving a pencil sized hole in her neck.

As I said, I've met some that were total sweethearts, but I still consider them to be a liability that I wouldn't touch. There are plenty of news stories and videos to back up my sentiment.

Bah...This is way off topic. I don't have any beef with this particular dog. I just hope whomever adopts it is realistic about what the potential pitfalls.

[Edited on October 3, 2006 at 2:57 AM. Reason : .]

10/3/2006 2:50:10 AM

That's the problem that I have with the detractors from this thread. I think that anyone who is going to take in a Rottie needs to know that they are not for inexperienced dog owners. They need to know that they are extremely large and powerful dogs, who need an owner who is absolutely confident in their abiliy to handle them. Training is also imperative because of the power that is behind the dog, but I don't want to turn someone away who is able to handle the dog because they have the misconception that Rottweilers are inherantly vicious dogs.

10/3/2006 3:02:56 AM

Thank you for saving her life.
I've done quite a bit of independent dog rescue and also worked with a rescue based out of Cary.

i know you want to give her away for free but you might want to consider charging a small adoption fee (if only $25). it helps to make sure people are serious about the costs of a dog.

you're going to want to screen potential adopters. i'd recommend having them fill out some sort of adoption form. maybe adding a clause that in case of it not working out she be returned to you rather than shuffled to another house and the chance of going back to a shelter.

i know you want her to go to a good home but be careful when giving her away. whoever comes to see her - dont let them have her right there and then. have them go home and think about it then gather supplies - food, leash, etc... and then bring the dog to them so you can conduct a home visit. (make sure you're comfortable with the environment she'll be living in).
especially with a breed such as a rottweiler. make sure they're not getting her for her status.. i'd personally only give a rotti to someone who is knowledgable of the breed and has experience raising dogs. these aren't good first dogs. especially an adult with an unknown past.

do a temperment test with her. talk her on walks and into new situations to see how she reacts. take her food away. the better you know this dogs personality and how she reacts in situations the better home you can place her in.

if you make a flyer i'll be happy to post it at my school. i've had great luck placing dogs with teachers.

if you have an questions or need advice pm me.


rottweilers are a wonderful breed. they're stereotyped just like any other big breed or like a bully breed. everyone can tell you about a bad experience with a dog. i've been bitten by more toy breeds and cocker spaniels then by rottis and pits and other "dangerous" dogs.
each dog is different and its not fair to stereotype her.

10/3/2006 6:20:38 AM

Good luck for Roxy. Earl you obviously do not know how to handle this breed of dog and need not inquire.

10/3/2006 7:40:53 AM

XCchik that is a really good idea, thank you so much!

Earl i dont remember ever asking you to take the dog. If you have such a problem with Rotties or anyother bully breed dont be around them. I am just trying to save this dog, she deserves more from life then she has been given. You have probably never even been around a Rottie before but please dont hurt her chances of finding her a home.

10/3/2006 8:08:19 AM

is the mobile home included?

10/3/2006 9:21:49 AM

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"Earl you obviously do not know how to handle this breed of dog and need not inquire."

I don't know how to handle a breed of canine that (in this situation) someone would let use to herd children?!?! Then I sure don't know how to handle them.

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"please dont hurt her chances of finding her a home."

Im not trying to hurt her chances or deter anyone from adopting her. But people do need to know the truth about them, so they can know what they are getting into. I have told no lies on this board! Top insurance agencies will reject you if you own one (thats my neighbors testimony) they are agressive, muscular dogs who do protect owners'. But, their idea of "protection" usually means No you cannot deliver the mail today mailman!, No you cannot shake my owner(s) hand in front of me!.

They, sometimes are overly agressive beast. You do not want this beast around a tender undeveloped child. Theres no way in the dad-gom heck I would allow it! If I were a single female, then yeah. But around children, my vote goes to no.

And I don't mean to be rude or anything, but why did you adopt her in the first place if you were not going to keep her? Your selfishness possibly prevented someone else, who is able to keep her, from adopting her now.

[Edited on October 3, 2006 at 10:56 AM. Reason : .]

10/3/2006 10:34:57 AM

Um... actually i am going right now to adopt her because she will be put down tonight if she doesnt find a home today. I would love to walk in and her not be there because someone adopted her. I said before i would keep her if i didnt already have a big dog in an apartment.

10/3/2006 11:16:37 AM

Thats plausible, if you're saving him from being murdered. But please take my advice listed above about home options and tender children. Good luck with that !!!

10/3/2006 11:27:03 AM

Hey Goober, see if that dog will eat Earl's sister.

10/3/2006 11:32:10 AM

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"dad-gom heck"

I'd love to, but my roomates have already told me "no dogs."


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10/3/2006 11:38:26 AM

It would probably kill my cat.

I always thought a rott/lab mix would be a good dog.

10/3/2006 1:39:29 PM

Hey Goober47,

I been a foster home for about 7 Rottwilers in the past 2 or so years. I adopted one about 2.5 years ago from VA. I did alot of work with NCRR in the past. I just moved back to the raleigh area. Let me tell you that adopting my rottie was one of the best things I ever did. Here is a few tidbits of info that you might like to know.

Dalmations and Chows are about 100% more likely to attack than a rottie. USAA insurance along with countless others have recently removed rotties from their list of "agressive" dogs from their homeowners policies because they had more Labs attacking strangers than Rotties.

In my eyes, a dog is like a car. If the owner is not responsible, than the dog may be dangerous. Every dog can be dangerous, it just depends on the owner. I don't care if you drive a small car or a mac truck, if you don't know how to control the damn thing you are gonna cause some damage. If the owner can't control/train the dog, they don't need to have it. Even a small dog can cause serious damage.

Please screen your adopters! This is a must!

If you need help with anything, PM me.

10/3/2006 3:09:24 PM

Update!
I think i have found her a home well homes!

I talked with a guy today and he is looking for a dog for his family. His dad wants a buddy to ride in the car and hang out with. It seems like she would be a very beloved family pet. I am meeting him on friday after i pick her up so that i can check him out and see if she will be a good fit there.

If that doesnt work out (i hope it does though!) miss roxy will be going to a co-workers 13 ac horse farm. Where she will spend her days sun bathing and chasing the cats and chickens. They have 3 dogs already that live the dog dream life so i know she will be happy.

Earl i want you to know i am not an idiot. I am not going to place some dog that i know basically no background on in a home with babies.I had a lady today want to take her. This lady has a 1 yr old and a 5 yr old. I told her i didnt want to place her there since i didnt know her past i wouldnt feel comfortable placing her in a home with such small children. I dont think it is smart (no matter what breed) to place a large dog that has been mistreated in a home with small children.

[Edited on October 3, 2006 at 6:10 PM. Reason : .]

10/3/2006 6:09:15 PM

10/3/2006 6:35:35 PM

rottweilers are fine

owners are idiots



i've been around rotts, amstaffs, dobermans, boxers, and a number of great danes (seen a great dane make a rottie tuck tail and run...rottweiler had gotten out from it's owner's place and came to our yard)

10/3/2006 6:58:53 PM