TKE-Teg All American 43410 Posts user info edit post |
Shows a guy driving a GT500 in Germany...and he blew by a Carrera GT on the Autobahn.
WHAT KIND OF BULLSHIT IS THAT?! What a joke. 10/6/2006 10:19:45 PM |
Igor All American 6672 Posts user info edit post |
man, are you telling me the Geico lizard is not real? 10/6/2006 10:21:21 PM |
TKE-Teg All American 43410 Posts user info edit post |
lol
its just that its insulting to ANYONE that knows ANYTHING about cars to think that that overweight POS is faster than a Carrera GT. 10/6/2006 10:24:52 PM |
Igor All American 6672 Posts user info edit post |
i'd still pick a GT outta those two.
taht way i can take it to Firestone for a 19.95 oil change. 10/6/2006 10:27:25 PM |
TKE-Teg All American 43410 Posts user info edit post |
So you'd take the Porsche, huh?
A real man would just change it himself. 10/6/2006 10:37:18 PM |
BigBlueRam All American 16852 Posts user info edit post |
a smart man would let the monkeys at the local lube shop do it for 19.95, rather than spend about that much in materials plus his time and effort. 10/6/2006 10:39:33 PM |
TKE-Teg All American 43410 Posts user info edit post |
Can't get a synthetic oil change for $19.95, and I'll be damned if I pay $50 for it.
10/6/2006 10:42:37 PM |
Igor All American 6672 Posts user info edit post |
damn i meant gt500
a real man would have driven it so hard that it would need an engine swap before the first oil change is due.
i know i would. 10/6/2006 10:42:58 PM |
BigBlueRam All American 16852 Posts user info edit post |
^haha, for real.
my ram has had 3 oil changes and 1 oil pump in ~70k miles 10/6/2006 10:50:44 PM |
SandSanta All American 22435 Posts user info edit post |
I'd rather have a GT500. 10/6/2006 11:00:54 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
Haha, aside from the fact that it is significantly slower than the Carrera GT, I don't think the Ford would even be exported to Germany.
And EVEN if it is, I doubt there will be > 0 GT500s in Germany in the next 3 years. 10/7/2006 9:03:43 AM |
baonest All American 47902 Posts user info edit post |
u niggers are dumb 10/7/2006 9:47:51 AM |
theDuke866 All American 52840 Posts user info edit post |
that commercial is funny, though
"no, I couldn't find a speed limit I liked in America"
Quote : | "Can't get a synthetic oil change for $19.95, and I'll be damned if I pay $50 for it." |
there's a place here in Pensacola that will do a Mobil 1 oil change AND wash your car (and do a good job), vacuum the interior, and clean your windows for like $40. I swore I'd never pay someone to wash my car or change my oil, but the oil and filter would be $30, maybe even $35 if I bought it myself.10/7/2006 12:25:00 PM |
BigBlueRam All American 16852 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, i haven't changed the oil myself in my personal vehicles in quite some time. especially now that i've got a diesel that holds like half the oil in texas.
hell, i even let the dude at autozone install a battery for me the other week. 10/7/2006 12:34:34 PM |
Igor All American 6672 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "u niggers are is dumb" |
10/7/2006 1:24:38 PM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
i haven't seen the commercial.. but.. were they racing?
I'd be more likely to flog the hell out of a mustang than a carrera gt on the street.
ohh... and your mom is an overweight pos.... but i still love her. 10/9/2006 8:17:39 AM |
SandSanta All American 22435 Posts user info edit post |
You know
As much as people who've been to Europe like to harp on big American cars, they actually do have a following of sorts. Especially rumbling V8's. 10/9/2006 9:54:25 AM |
baonest All American 47902 Posts user info edit post |
ill give you a rumbling V8 10/9/2006 10:23:39 AM |
slut All American 8357 Posts user info edit post |
how about a hot carl? 10/9/2006 10:31:55 AM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
hahaha 10/9/2006 2:06:28 PM |
State409c Suspended 19558 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i haven't seen the commercial.. but.. were they racing?" |
No, just shows the GT500 zooming up the bahn with the GT sliding over to the right as it passes.
I MEAN, I CAN'T IMAGINE ANY SITUATION WHERE ONE CAR MIGHT PASS ANOTHER CAR ON THE AUTOBAHN
IT'S
JUST
INCONCEIVABLE10/9/2006 2:09:24 PM |
zxappeal All American 26824 Posts user info edit post |
I don't know how many Germans I've met who moved over here and got themselves a big old American piece of shit Impala or Caprice with a 350. 10/9/2006 2:43:53 PM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Shows a guy driving a GT500 in Germany...and he blew by a Carrera GT on the Autobahn.
WHAT KIND OF BULLSHIT IS THAT?! What a joke." |
the Carrera GT was probably in the right lane taking the exit to IKEA10/9/2006 3:06:44 PM |
JIP2587 All American 596 Posts user info edit post |
GT 500 blows... Slower than a stock Vette, yet has 100 hp more. Some people at Ford/Shelby fucked up big time. Also, why go back to a solid rear axle? 10/9/2006 4:24:35 PM |
ben94gt All American 5084 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " its just that its insulting to ANYONE that knows ANYTHING about cars to think that that overweight POS is faster than a Carrera GT. " |
not in stock form, but if youve looked under the hood of a GT-500, from what you can actually see, you can tell they left a lot of power on the table; and if the way 03-04 cobras responded to mods are any indication you can bet that for less than probably 10 grand you could make it faster than a carrera gt, and you would still have less than 1/4 of the price of the carrera GT into it. You cant deny though the carerra GT is a superior product and a beautiful car, and i would blow a load in my pants if I got to even ride in one for a 1/4 mile; but for most of us the 385k USED price tag on it is just a little out of reach, while a 50k gt-500 while still pretty much out of reach, is still a little bit more obtainable.10/9/2006 5:10:18 PM |
ben94gt All American 5084 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "GT 500 blows... Slower than a stock Vette, yet has 100 hp more. Some people at Ford/Shelby fucked up big time. Also, why go back to a solid rear axle?" |
Quote : | ""compared an early build 2007 Shelby GT500 with a 2006 Z51 package Chevrolet Corvette. The Shelby obtained a 12.9 second quarter-mile while the Corvette ran a 12.8. The Shelby had a 100 hp advantage over the Corvette, but a 616 lb weight disadvantage. Similar tests by the magazine Road & Track reported a 13.1 second quarter-mile for the Shelby GT500. Some critics have pointed out that the weight of the car is causing estimated ET's less than expected. The weight of the Shelby GT500 with a driver is nearly 4,100 lb. Muscle Mustangs and Fast Fords (August 2006 issue) were able to coax low-12 second performances out of a pre-production version (best: 12.257s), with trap speeds of over 117mph."" |
Thats from wiki, so yes, with an average driver the GT-500 is a bit dissapointing, but the guys at MM&FF were able to beat a stock vette's time with it, and come close to a Z06 time; so it can be done. As for the solid rear mainly it was done for cost purposes, because ford are cheap bastards; but then again take a look at the IRS systems from the 99-04 cobras, they sucked balls and were notorious for wheel hop, honestly I would rather take the live axle
[Edited on October 9, 2006 at 5:14 PM. Reason : .]10/9/2006 5:13:58 PM |
toyotafj40s All American 8649 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "hell, i even let the dude at autozone install a battery for me the other week." |
[Edited on October 9, 2006 at 5:14 PM. Reason : asfd]10/9/2006 5:14:26 PM |
dannydigtl All American 18302 Posts user info edit post |
all the germans i know drive camrys and tauruses 10/9/2006 6:10:52 PM |
JIP2587 All American 596 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Thats from wiki, so yes, with an average driver the GT-500 is a bit dissapointing, but the guys at MM&FF were able to beat a stock vette's time with it, and come close to a Z06 time; so it can be done. As for the solid rear mainly it was done for cost purposes, because ford are cheap bastards; but then again take a look at the IRS systems from the 99-04 cobras, they sucked balls and were notorious for wheel hop, honestly I would rather take the live axle " |
Theres more to speed than straight line... With a good or great driver it comes close to a vette... On any other form of track it is way behind. I don't have the Road & Track that the comparison was in, but if I recall it was several seconds behind the stock vette (not Z06) with the same driver. So I maintain my statement, ford/shelby fucked up.
Edit: Also, who cares if they hit low twelves with a "pre-production" car? If you can't do it with one off a showroom, it doesn't count for anything.
[Edited on October 9, 2006 at 8:05 PM. Reason : Saw "pre-production"]10/9/2006 8:02:46 PM |
1in10^9 All American 7451 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I don't know how many Germans I've met who moved over here and got themselves a big old American piece of shit Impala or Caprice with a 350." |
hahahahahaha10/9/2006 9:32:49 PM |
jdbyrd All American 633 Posts user info edit post |
the ford gt500 was def pwned by a STOCK non-Z06 vette...blow me ford 10/9/2006 10:45:21 PM |
vw18t New Recruit 19 Posts user info edit post |
I've always liked z6 vettes. Despite how impressive the new 505hp one is, it still has one of the lower bhp/liter figure of many cars. Sure a 7.something liter is gonna put out 505hp. A RCR nascar engine makes 800bhp N/A. And thats on carb, stiff rules, and no computer control. The only "true" innovation in the new vette is it's ability to keep up with the Carrera in the twisties quite well.
As for the Ford, I won't even touch that, I'll get myself in trouble if I open my mouth. 10/9/2006 11:54:26 PM |
H8R wear sumthin tight 60155 Posts user info edit post |
what in the fuck is a z6 vette? 10/9/2006 11:55:39 PM |
TKE-Teg All American 43410 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Shows a guy driving a GT500 in Germany...and he blew by a Carrera GT on the Autobahn.
WHAT KIND OF BULLSHIT IS THAT?! What a joke." |
Okay, so I was kinda drunk when I saw the commercial and made the thread. Upon seeing it a few more times, its obvious that the Carrera GT is moving over to an exit to leave the highway, so I'm not even sure what the point of it is at all.
Quote : | "not in stock form, but if youve looked under the hood of a GT-500, from what you can actually see, you can tell they left a lot of power on the table; and if the way 03-04 cobras responded to mods are any indication you can bet that for less than probably 10 grand you could make it faster than a carrera gt, and you would still have less than 1/4 of the price of the carrera GT into it. You cant deny though the carerra GT is a superior product and a beautiful car, and i would blow a load in my pants if I got to even ride in one for a 1/4 mile; but for most of us the 385k USED price tag on it is just a little out of reach, while a 50k gt-500 while still pretty much out of reach, is still a little bit more obtainable." |
It seems to me that your view on speed is purely about the 1/4 mile. Yeah I bet you can make a GT-500 faster in the 1/4 mile. Can you make it faster around a race track for equal money? I highly doubt it. And what you do mean about power left under the hood? You implying that a lot of hp is available with the aid of a few bolt-ons? Or do you mean its underrated, b/c all I've heard is that its maybe overrated.10/9/2006 11:56:02 PM |
HaLo All American 14263 Posts user info edit post |
the point is obvious; to any non-car person, the commecial shows the GT500 blowing past a "slick, fast looking car". those who see a carrera GT will also see the carrera pulling off and thus Ford can't be accused of showing the GT500 "blowing past a Carrera GT at full speed" 10/10/2006 1:04:40 AM |
Rockster All American 1597 Posts user info edit post |
Maybe the guy in the Porsche has sex with real, live women and his manhood isn't threatened by someone passing on the autobahn. 10/10/2006 1:15:07 AM |
ben94gt All American 5084 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "It seems to me that your view on speed is purely about the 1/4 mile. Yeah I bet you can make a GT-500 faster in the 1/4 mile. Can you make it faster around a race track for equal money? I highly doubt it. And what you do mean about power left under the hood? You implying that a lot of hp is available with the aid of a few bolt-ons? Or do you mean its underrated, b/c all I've heard is that its maybe overrated." |
Yea, when I think of speed, ill admit, im thinking of 1/4 mile. On a road track I would say the GT500 would not come close. The power under the hood im talking about is power available by aid of a few bolt ons, i.e. the airbox and intake tube on that look like they jacked it from an F-150.
[Edited on October 10, 2006 at 3:01 PM. Reason : one of many bolt ons]10/10/2006 3:00:40 PM |
ScHpEnXeL Suspended 32613 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "my ram has had 3 oil changes and 1 oil pump in ~70k miles " |
I think I'm up to about 12K miles on this oil in the Tahoe lol... now, what should I do to make this duramax diesel dump truck be a little quicker ol blue? 10/10/2006 3:22:03 PM |
bcvaugha All American 2587 Posts user info edit post |
i like the commercial... and the car looked nice flying down the road. Nothing wrong with that mustang at all. Maybe they got their commericals mixed up and that was for the european market, plenty of them would love an american muscle car. 10/10/2006 5:56:51 PM |
Scottyc All American 1956 Posts user info edit post |
overpriced POS. anyone in there right mind would opt for the far superior vette. 10/10/2006 7:31:44 PM |
e30ncsu Suspended 1879 Posts user info edit post |
yay for plastic interiors 10/10/2006 8:50:56 PM |
ScHpEnXeL Suspended 32613 Posts user info edit post |
I've owned a vette and wasn't all that impressed with a lot of points. GM could have and should have done a hell of a lot better job with a lot of aspects of the car... the interior (terribly fitting plastic and the cheapest leather GM could find apparently) being a huge one. Sure performance wise it's great but having constant problems with a fuel gauge, leather seats ripping and being worn out at low mileages and column locks leaving people stranded and GM not doing shit to fix it and only issuing a bullshit recall that doesn't do anything to really fix the problem just doesn't cut it for me. I figured they'd get everything worked out on the C6 but the dumbasses used the same fuel gauge components and they were failing within 6 months of the C6 being released. Not to mention using the same steering wheel on the f'in SUNFIRE really annoyed me and proved how cheap GM is.
[Edited on October 10, 2006 at 8:56 PM. Reason : a] 10/10/2006 8:55:51 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "No, just shows the GT500 zooming up the bahn with the GT sliding over to the right as it passes.
I MEAN, I CAN'T IMAGINE ANY SITUATION WHERE ONE CAR MIGHT PASS ANOTHER CAR ON THE AUTOBAHN
IT'S
JUST
INCONCEIVABLE" |
[Edited on October 11, 2006 at 1:02 AM. Reason : ]10/11/2006 1:01:17 AM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
dear wolf web. the mustang was the 1st "tuner car" and will always remain that way... every model mustang has come with 1 major weekness.... either heads, cam or something else along those lines.... this one its the blower.lay 20lbs of boost from a larger properly sized blower and you have a 700,800+ hp car (you may need fuel system mods too i'm not sure how they set it up on the cobra). this is why they left the solid axle in the rear so people who modify them don't bitch about throwing 1/2 shafts like they did with the 03-04 model. 10/11/2006 7:50:39 AM |
Arab13 Art Vandelay 45180 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=105085
^ yeah, the included supercharger is pretty low power... 10/11/2006 3:52:27 PM |
xvang All American 3468 Posts user info edit post |
^LOL, watch the old guy drive the thing... i hope I'm that cool when I turn 90.
(Click on the pictures to the side and choose Video tab and watch the video) 10/11/2006 4:09:12 PM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
^^ great article Quote : | "Fuel comes from a dual-bore electronic throttle body borrowed from Ford's 6.8-liter truck engine program" | last time i checked there was no fuel involved with a throttle body @ all
^ and that old guy is Carroll Shelby one of the most balls out race drivers ever.... albeit from 50 years ago......
[Edited on October 11, 2006 at 6:15 PM. Reason : .]10/11/2006 6:12:33 PM |
kylekatern All American 3291 Posts user info edit post |
Or for a newer sleeker design, say a Foostang?
I personally think his mods are the best mustang mod out there, and all in all, he is the modern Shelby equivelent. 10/13/2006 6:02:50 PM |
Arab13 Art Vandelay 45180 Posts user info edit post |
lol never said it was a good article....
just using it to point out the weak stock blower....
btw it's german law you can only be in the left lane to pass, otherwise you must remain in the right lane 10/17/2006 8:30:39 AM |
TKE-Teg All American 43410 Posts user info edit post |
^are you seriously not aware that that is also the law in The United States?!? 10/17/2006 1:02:07 PM |