pmcassel All American 1553 Posts user info edit post |
Since the other thread was somewhat hijacked...
Now the question is:
32" sony LCD vs 46" samsung DLP
Both around $1200
Main reason for LCD is I believe it will look better, and I can hang it on the wall. DLP is 14" bigger for the same price and the ladies like that 10/7/2006 8:25:49 PM |
Raige All American 4386 Posts user info edit post |
Go to bestbuy. Go look at the DLP's and the LCD's. If you don't see the VAST difference...
If you're just using the TV for a big screen then dlp is for you. LCD is if you want a superior image and brilliant colors. Some of the newer DLPs are nice. You might even want to look at Sony's Wega's. They are nice TVS. 10/7/2006 8:43:22 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
dl motherfucking p 10/7/2006 8:46:10 PM |
cyrion All American 27139 Posts user info edit post |
id go dlp in a heartbeat 10/7/2006 9:03:31 PM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
You couldn't pay me to own a DLP. 10/7/2006 10:59:19 PM |
Charybdisjim All American 5486 Posts user info edit post |
HD content tends to look better on the LCD's than DLP's I've seen. Standard definition content definately looks better on DLP's though. Do you plan on this being something to last you a good long time, or are you looking for the best bang for your buck right now. If you only care about it for a year or two then the DLP is the best for your money.
If this is going to be your tv for the next 5 years, I'd get the LCD. The LCD also has the advantage of being a space saver. If you did upgrade and replace it with a newer tv, it could fairly easily go on the wall in another room. The DLP really only has a few places it can go in a house. Also remember that DLP's use lamps that cost a shit-ton to replace. LCD backlights are much less expensive and fail much less frequently. DLP lamps can be rated for 1-2 years or 3-4 years of ownership (actually rated in hours, but that's what the two most common classes average out to.) Some people have claimed they need to replace them every couple of months, but this is generally rare. Those lamp replacements will run you 100 to 400 bucks depending on the particular unit and manufacturer.
For that samsung, you can get the model number and find out how much lamps cost at "samsungparts.com" You can usually find them through distributers for about 20-30% less, though they might not be reputable. 10/7/2006 11:06:11 PM |
pmcassel All American 1553 Posts user info edit post |
^but dont lcd's have a lower lifetime due to the fact that they "dull" in their contrast after a few years?
very hard decision 10/7/2006 11:57:05 PM |
Charybdisjim All American 5486 Posts user info edit post |
That's plasmas. They can lose around 30% of their original brightness in the first year or two. That was mostly with older models though. If an LCD loses brightness it's a backlight problem and the backlight usually doesn't fail. If it does, it's cheap to replace by comparison. 10/7/2006 11:59:46 PM |
Noen All American 31346 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "LCD is if you want a superior image and brilliant colors" |
DLP's have MUCH better color reproduction and true blacks. LCD's are brighter10/8/2006 12:22:46 AM |
ScHpEnXeL Suspended 32613 Posts user info edit post |
I was impressed by my buddy's sony wega dlp... It looked as good as my high def LCD, but I'm no expert. Basically if space isnt an issue I'd go with the bigger tv...if you were looking for something for say, the bedroom wall, then the LCD is the obvious choice 10/8/2006 1:49:42 AM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I was impressed by my buddy's sony wega dlp... It looked as good as my high def LCD, but I'm no expert. " |
There's no such thing as a Sony DLP.10/8/2006 2:55:12 AM |
ncWOLFsu Gottfather FTL 12586 Posts user info edit post |
i have a sony wega xbr and love it, but the new sxrd looks pretty sweet
i would suggest the dlp over lcd though, especially if you want to play games on it and whatnot. lcd has a higher chance of burn-in. 10/8/2006 6:14:46 AM |
Noen All American 31346 Posts user info edit post |
lcd doesnt have burn in. 10/8/2006 6:31:58 AM |
statepkt All American 3592 Posts user info edit post |
I think a more fair comparsion would have been LCOS vs DLP
By the way the 50 Sony SXRD is awesome
LCD's are $$ especially if you get into the bigger sizes, but if money ain't no thing.....
[Edited on October 8, 2006 at 10:07 AM. Reason : .] 10/8/2006 10:05:02 AM |
SandSanta All American 22435 Posts user info edit post |
S X R D 10/8/2006 12:50:42 PM |
ScHpEnXeL Suspended 32613 Posts user info edit post |
my bad, was projection lcd 10/8/2006 1:09:19 PM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
ok tech talk people... i'm thinking about buying a nice TV in the next few months... is there a new technology (or a newer version of a current technology) i should wait for? 10/8/2006 6:42:34 PM |
Charybdisjim All American 5486 Posts user info edit post |
It really depends on what you plan to do with it. If you're going to jump on blue-ray but want a TV that'll be with you for 5 years or so, then you'll want something with 1080i or 1080P native resolution. That'll pretty much mean LCD.
If you plan on watching mostly regular DVD's, HD cable or satellite, and maybe HD video gaming then anything with HDMI in, probably 720P or 1080i native resolution and good contrast will be fine (as long as it's a quality item.) 10/8/2006 6:52:38 PM |
firmbuttgntl Suspended 11931 Posts user info edit post |
Can someone explain what dlp is and if it has a better pixel rate? 10/8/2006 7:13:36 PM |
Charybdisjim All American 5486 Posts user info edit post |
DLP's use what's basically a mirror chip. This mirror chip contains as many mirrors as their are pixels and each mirror can be on (reflective) or off (non-reflective). This gives you very good contrast generally. To get color you can either use 3 chips with 3 different color lights being reflected and superimpose the images on top of each other or a spinning color wheel. The colorwheel has 4 color filters (Red, Green, Blue and Clear to boost light levels) and is synchronized with the mirror chip. The color wheel and chip cycle fast enough that the images appear to be simultaneously superimposed.
It's a kind of rear projection as this digitally processed light is projected onto the back of a screen.
The number of pixels can vary with any display and is defined by the native resolution. Generally higher resolution but mid-range sized displays are dominated by LCD's. For some reason mid-sized DLPS tend to be 720p. They do and can make LCD's and DLP's of any of standard resolutions. For the most part, if you want something under 47" and 1080i or 1080P you're looking at an LCD. They do make HUGE 1080P DLP tv's though.
[Edited on October 8, 2006 at 8:42 PM. Reason : ] 10/8/2006 8:38:26 PM |
davelen21 All American 4119 Posts user info edit post |
i am assuming dlp's have bulbs, I don't really keep up with this stuff though... if thats true, you will hate that thing the first time you have to buy a new bulb 10/8/2006 11:04:12 PM |
DiscGolfer All American 2710 Posts user info edit post |
some of you may or may not be interested in this TV Buying guide. I thought it was pretty thorough, and discusses pros and cons of various types of televisions and what would best fit your needs:
http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/tv-buying-guide.htm/printable
caution: it's lengthy 10/8/2006 11:22:22 PM |
Noen All American 31346 Posts user info edit post |
^^more misinformation.
You average a bulb every 2-5 years, they cost 150-250 bucks and it takes a few minutes to swap them out yourself. You'd have to change out bulbs for 15 years to make up the price difference with an equally sized LCD. 10/9/2006 12:22:40 AM |
Charybdisjim All American 5486 Posts user info edit post |
^ They can get upwards of 350-400, but that's very uncommon. There's some complaints about (particularly Toshiba) bulbs burning out in as little as 6 months. Now, most people won't have any problem like that, but it is worth looking into for particular models someone might be interested in. 10/9/2006 12:39:06 AM |
slut All American 8357 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i am assuming dlp's have bulbs, I don't really keep up with this stuff though... if thats true, you will hate that thing the first time you have to buy a new bulb" |
so you' pretty much said: "don't listen to me, i don't know what i'm talking about" gg
& for the love of god. if you want an accurate representation of what picture quality is going to be like, don't just stroll in to best buy or circuit city.10/9/2006 12:52:36 AM |
Noen All American 31346 Posts user info edit post |
^^Almost every DLP manufacturer includes the bulb in their 1yr warranties. I don't know about Toshiba specifically, but I'd wager they did too. 10/9/2006 12:58:00 AM |
FanatiK All American 4248 Posts user info edit post |
I've had a Toshiba DLP for close to 2 years now. Still the original bulb.
Toshiba had a run of DLP TVs that had bad bulbs in them, they doubled the warranty on those (oddly enough, my TV is included in this batch)
ALL manufacturers include the bulb on the warranty.
I personally think DLP looks better than LCD. But it's all subjective.
oh, and I forgot to say: NOT THIS THREAD AGAIN!!!! 10/9/2006 12:43:03 PM |
FanatiK All American 4248 Posts user info edit post |
also, wanted to add that a replacement bulb for my Toshiba is ~$170. hardly a "SHIT TON", and your DLP TV is good as new once you switch the bulb out. 10/9/2006 12:46:37 PM |
xvang All American 3468 Posts user info edit post |
Speaking of DLP... what do you guys think of the DLP equipped theaters around here? I honestly miss the "scan lines" and "artifacts" that came with a good ole' flick. 10/9/2006 1:10:26 PM |
wolftrap All American 1260 Posts user info edit post |
Can someone explain to me why LCD TV's of all sizes and prices are not 1080i?
I have an LCD monitor in my cheapo iMac than can do 1920x1080. 10/9/2006 5:20:49 PM |
statepkt All American 3592 Posts user info edit post |
^you haven't been looking hard enough
Sony and a couple of others have LCD's that do 1080i and some do 1080p 10/9/2006 6:30:15 PM |
wolftrap All American 1260 Posts user info edit post |
thanks for not answering the question, dingus
my damn computer monitor is 20" and does 1920x1080.
you would think the average 27" lcd tv would do 1920x1080. what gives? 10/9/2006 8:45:36 PM |
Noen All American 31346 Posts user info edit post |
its called cost.
Your monitor doesnt have the ridiculous amount of added components required for doing ntsc analog decoding, digital SD and HD decoding. In order to add in all that with enough processing power to handle 1080i would price the tv out of the market.
Not to mention it would be complete and total overkill to make a 27" 1080p television. At the average 6ft viewing distance you aren't going to be able to distinguish the difference from 720p at all, and certainly not enough to warrant nearly double the price. 10/9/2006 9:06:08 PM |
statepkt All American 3592 Posts user info edit post |
didn't read your whole question, but i think noen answers it pretty nicely....whats the point of having 1080i on something so small like a 20 LCD.
Watching HDTV on a 50' SXRD I still have a hard time telling the difference between 720p and 1080i 10/9/2006 9:11:17 PM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
HA!10/9/2006 9:24:01 PM |
pmcassel All American 1553 Posts user info edit post |
so i went with the 46" DLP 10/9/2006 10:41:25 PM |
mplncsu99 All American 701 Posts user info edit post |
^ Samsung 46" DLP? That's the one I just got and love it.
Quote : | "They do make HUGE 1080P DLP tv's though" |
If by HUGE you mean 50", then yes. There are some SWEET 50" 1080p jobs out now.10/10/2006 8:07:30 AM |
Charybdisjim All American 5486 Posts user info edit post |
50"+ is pretty damn huge, then again most DLP's start on the huge size. There aren't exactly many small or mid-range DLPs. So I guess 50" isn't huge as far as rear-projection style tv's go. 10/10/2006 8:22:05 AM |
pmcassel All American 1553 Posts user info edit post |
^^yes http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000F2P31E/ref=pd_cp_e_title/104-7955707-3760724?ie=UTF8
took me forever to decide now i need a new stand 10/10/2006 12:35:40 PM |
Azaka ///Meh 4833 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "50"+ is pretty damn huge" |
I wouldn't even call 50" big. 71" on the other hand actually is huge.]10/10/2006 2:30:47 PM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
shoot, that samsung is only $4800...i'm gonna buy two 10/10/2006 4:32:35 PM |
SandSanta All American 22435 Posts user info edit post |
S X R D 10/10/2006 4:33:19 PM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
i'm waiting for lcos to become a little more prevalent, then the price will be really great 10/10/2006 4:38:13 PM |
Quinn All American 16417 Posts user info edit post |
i'm waiting for lcos hdtv content to become a little more prevalent, then the price will be really great somewhat justified. 10/10/2006 6:47:04 PM |
statepkt All American 3592 Posts user info edit post |
dude quinn you need to come over and watch some hd football on my 10/10/2006 7:25:52 PM |
Quinn All American 16417 Posts user info edit post |
My football team could make a 100,000 plasma tv look bad 10/10/2006 7:27:37 PM |
statepkt All American 3592 Posts user info edit post |
hahahaha, dude the packers will rise again.........maybe in a couple more years 10/10/2006 7:29:50 PM |
Quinn All American 16417 Posts user info edit post |
decades? 10/10/2006 7:35:57 PM |
firmbuttgntl Suspended 11931 Posts user info edit post |
So, shouldn't dlps be cheaper than lcd by that process? 10/13/2006 9:42:30 PM |
Azaka ///Meh 4833 Posts user info edit post |
statepkt, details on your tv?
Quote : | "So, shouldn't dlps be cheaper than lcd by that process?" |
They are.]10/13/2006 11:56:45 PM |