BigPapa All American 4727 Posts user info edit post |
Ok watching Saving Private Ryan what was the deal with Capt. Miller's (Tom Hanks) hand?
Was it Parkinson's disease? 10/16/2006 10:26:18 PM |
BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
That or his nerves are shot from teh war.
It doesnt happen all the time which leads me to beleive that it isnt a disease so much as stress.
If your looking for an answer I dont think you are ever given one other than you see his hand shaking. 10/16/2006 10:33:20 PM |
agentlion All American 13936 Posts user info edit post |
nah, just shell-shock i think.
my grandfather has something similar. He was knocked deaf for 2 weeks in WWII and again in Korea from close fire, or something. Anyway, when he has to do something dexterous, his hands shake like crazy. If he works at it really hard, or uses both hands, he can keep them kind of steady. 10/16/2006 10:34:49 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
why didn't they just blow up the bridge before the germans got there? 10/16/2006 11:21:28 PM |
GangGanja21 Veteran 358 Posts user info edit post |
Because you touch yourself at night 10/16/2006 11:34:43 PM |
dbhawley All American 3339 Posts user info edit post |
thats probably one of the best war movies 10/16/2006 11:50:02 PM |
parsonsb All American 13206 Posts user info edit post |
i want tom hanks tank killing pistol 10/17/2006 1:10:12 AM |
pcmsurf All American 7033 Posts user info edit post |
I hated Opum
he wasted plenty of chances to save lives and then killed a guy when it didnt matter 10/17/2006 1:50:08 AM |
ewalk All American 1031 Posts user info edit post |
they are trying to hold it so they can mount on offensive attack from there....blowing it up was a last resort just so the germans couldn't use it. 10/17/2006 2:11:13 AM |
slackerb All American 5093 Posts user info edit post |
The writer felt the need to make his character more believable and sympathetic to the audience and therefore displayed a sign of weakness in him. 10/17/2006 10:21:47 AM |
nothing22 All American 21537 Posts user info edit post |
there was a shortage of toilets 10/17/2006 10:27:43 AM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ they were trying to hold it to protect the flank of the invasion
engineers could have replaced the bridge in a few hours. 10/17/2006 8:08:20 PM |
cyrion All American 27139 Posts user info edit post |
he was a cyborg. that'll be in the sequel. 10/17/2006 8:16:18 PM |
parsonsb All American 13206 Posts user info edit post |
all he wanted was a log ride, he got stationed near bumper cars
that was his problem 10/18/2006 3:08:07 AM |
DuckSauce All American 2777 Posts user info edit post |
great movie iraq will hopefully provide some good material for future war movies, optimistically speaking 10/18/2006 4:03:19 AM |
The Cricket All American 2302 Posts user info edit post |
They should have shot that damn kraut! 10/18/2006 9:50:52 AM |
guitarguy All American 8118 Posts user info edit post |
some people believe its the same german that they let go and told him to count and start walking = to the same guy that kills joe (the jewish guy that gets the knife in his heart) 10/18/2006 10:44:58 AM |
Maverick All American 11175 Posts user info edit post |
I never caught that one the first few times I saw it, but I heard about it in a few discussions. All those damn German soldiers look alike 10/18/2006 10:55:42 AM |
BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
It is the same German 10/18/2006 1:08:17 PM |
ssclark Black and Proud 14179 Posts user info edit post |
wtf some people ? it's obviously the same german.
you didnt notice the german walk right past him and tell him to shush, then kill the jewish guy, then walk right the fuck past him again ?
that didnt seem odd ?
[Edited on October 18, 2006 at 1:14 PM. Reason : .] 10/18/2006 1:13:21 PM |
slackerb All American 5093 Posts user info edit post |
duh it's the same guy, morons.
[quote]^^^ they were trying to hold it to protect the flank of the invasion
engineers could have replaced the bridge in a few hours.[\quote]
Wrong. They didn't want to blow it unless they absolutely had to because you can't just rebuild a bridge like that in a few hours.
Else, why were brdiges sooooo important to fight over and hold? Why did we blow them all up except that one they were defending and one other?
They were trying to hold it so that they could use it and the enemy could not. 10/18/2006 1:26:21 PM |
Docido All American 4642 Posts user info edit post |
^ It was very odd but it worked. He was such a pansy the kraut knew he wouldnt be an issue. 10/18/2006 1:30:33 PM |
jongotburned All American 748 Posts user info edit post |
i love it when the german says "betty boop...what a dish" and "FUCK HITLER!"...i laugh every time 10/18/2006 2:03:39 PM |
guitarguy All American 8118 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "you didnt notice the german walk right past him and tell him to shush, then kill the jewish guy, then walk right the fuck past him again ?" |
we werent talking about that guy, thats obvious...im talking about the guy that they capture in the middle of the movie where they want to kill him but captain miller says no and they group argues with eachother. captain miller then lets the german soldier go...
im saying that guy that they let go in the middle of the movie is the same german that kills joe (the jewish guy)10/18/2006 2:27:32 PM |
agentlion All American 13936 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, no shit. that should have been obvious the first time you saw it. that's what sent the jewish guy off in a rage, IIRC. 10/18/2006 2:40:59 PM |
DuckSauce All American 2777 Posts user info edit post |
they spared the german's life at the machine gun, yet he spares opum's life at the staircase, then is subsequently killed at the end of the movie. such is the way of war, as one's friend may be one's foe at a later point in time. hence, the lessons of hesitation and of civilian logic and reason do not apply on the battleground. opum was initially the civilian perspective, however, you see the path in how atrocities and war crimes are commited by the end of the movie by potentially anyone. 10/18/2006 2:42:11 PM |
guitarguy All American 8118 Posts user info edit post |
if i was in a war time like such, i dont think id spare peoples' lives just for that reason...id be like what the troops thought seargent spears "did" in band of brothers...
that person you let go would just go on to fight another day and kill some more of your own troops
[Edited on October 18, 2006 at 2:48 PM. Reason : greatest movie ever] 10/18/2006 2:47:46 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "they spared the german's life at the machine gun, yet he spares opum's life at the staircase," |
are you kidding me, opum 'spared' the german again in the staircase b/c he was too much of a coward to shoot him. the german didnt have a gun out and opum had a rifle pointed right at him. he also had a chance to save the other guys life if he had charged up the stairs and shot the german while they were fighting.10/18/2006 3:16:18 PM |
Madman All American 3412 Posts user info edit post |
Retards: 'Steamboat Willie' was a German gunner who they captured and then released German 1 Stabbed Jewstein and walked down the stairs, smirking at Upham as he passed him Upham later murders Steamboat Willie after, witnessed by Upham while hiding, Willie shoots and kills an American soldier. Willie thinks he's got it easy and tries to ease Upham, saying "Upham" in a "Hey it's me, how've you been buddy!" tone. Upham, disgusted and feeling probably betrayed, then shoots Wilile.
Willie != German 1
I have no idea how some people have misconstrued this.
[Edited on October 18, 2006 at 3:26 PM. Reason : .] 10/18/2006 3:22:07 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
yall seen Sniper 4? haha its lame, one of those unintentional comedies during some points...but one of the themes is that tom berenger's trigger finger is all malfunctioning because of some muscle or tendon but it reminded me of hanks' hand 10/18/2006 3:29:12 PM |
BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
Same german PERIOD 10/18/2006 3:36:11 PM |
Madman All American 3412 Posts user info edit post |
No, it's not. Watch it again, please. 10/18/2006 3:36:37 PM |
VitorBelfort All American 6538 Posts user info edit post |
it was jittery because he had just gotten done filiming Saving Ryan's Privates
they had to do alot of retakes 10/18/2006 3:44:02 PM |
The Cricket All American 2302 Posts user info edit post |
^^ you're wrong bro. 10/18/2006 3:48:33 PM |
Madman All American 3412 Posts user info edit post |
I am not wrong. You are retarded if you think Steamboat Willie is the German who killed Jewstein. End of story. 10/18/2006 3:50:16 PM |
The Cricket All American 2302 Posts user info edit post |
Even a man such as myself can admit when he is wrong.
http://www.casenet.com/movie/savingprivateryan.htm
[Edited on October 18, 2006 at 3:58 PM. Reason : However, the mn that Upham shoots inthe end IS Steamboat Willie] 10/18/2006 3:52:04 PM |
wolfpack0122 All American 3129 Posts user info edit post |
I think its the same guy. Looks like the same guy. Picked up on that the first time I saw it
[Edited on October 18, 2006 at 3:57 PM. Reason : clarification] 10/18/2006 3:56:42 PM |
Raige All American 4386 Posts user info edit post |
Madman you're wrong. I just watched it in the DVD version
Same face, same uniform, same scar on the cheek.
The BOOK may be different but the movie obviously intended us to know it was the same person. 10/18/2006 3:58:59 PM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
The german machine gunner they let go is not the one that killed opam
however he is the one that shoots captain miller 10/18/2006 6:10:57 PM |
keefus All American 15551 Posts user info edit post |
^wtf are you talking about opum doesn't get killed
the german that kills joe is not the same one that they capture and let go earlier in the movie.
that guy was someone else. if it was the same guy why was there no recognition between he and opum on the staircase after killing joe?
the guy that opum killed at the end was the same german that capt miller let go and who later shot miller while miller was on the bridge. 10/18/2006 8:05:44 PM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
sorry, when I said opam I meant the jew 10/18/2006 8:58:17 PM |
Madman All American 3412 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Madman you're wrong. I just watched it in the DVD version
Same face, same uniform, same scar on the cheek.
The BOOK may be different but the movie obviously intended us to know it was the same person." |
No, just no.10/18/2006 9:26:46 PM |
NCSU337 All American 1098 Posts user info edit post |
Yea the German that kills Joe is not the one they captured and let go. 10/18/2006 9:55:22 PM |