So a while back I posted about a problem i had with Schrader rental properties. Basically he refused to fix some things and the things he did fix were not in code. Replacing wall jacks that had 2 wires and no ground with ground plugs!

Anyway, I got the minimal housing people to come and take a look and he failed every single possible thing you can fail. Water drainage, pipe type etc..

I managed to get out without paying any late fees etc because I threatened to sue. Since I moved out he had a full year to make the fixes. That was almost a year and 3 months now.

Well a year passed and I recieved a phone call from the City of Raleigh. Schrader failed his inspection on the house. I was notified because I was the plaintiff in the case. He is being fined $40,000 and is now subject to ALL of his properties being inspected. AKA he's screwed. How does this affect any of you? Well if you're in a schrader owned property your place is going to be inspected in the next few months and if found grossly under standards it's going to be condemned.

This guy is sleaze and so are his two secretaries. One is stupid as can be and the other is just a bitch. Make sure you avoid them!

Schrader Rental properties owns a LOT of places near NC State. Mostly older houses falling apart. Just and FYI!

10/27/2006 11:26:12 AM

Bet this guy is wishing he spent the money to fix the stuff right the firstt ime, going to cost him an ass ton more money to get it fixed now and all the fees and lawsuits

10/27/2006 11:36:33 AM

10/27/2006 11:51:37 AM

Ahahahaha.

1) Lots (from what you say) of students and low income people around campus with no home.
2) Whatever the real cost to the State and to the taxpayers of paying government employees to handle stuff like this, and physical inspections and court dates for the next 18 months.
3) Businesses employees lives somewhere between ruined and inconvenienced.

vs.

1) Raige gets revenge for not being treated like a princess.

10/27/2006 1:46:51 PM

sounds like the guy is finally getting what he deserves (assuming hes a sleeze)

10/27/2006 1:52:04 PM

I've heard personal horror stories about this guy too, and I hope he does get what's coming to him.

We did this on a house moving out a few years ago, they ended up having to do a 120K renovation to keep it from being condemned.

It's good for the tenants, good for the neighborhoods, property values for home owners and good for the city as a whole.

10/27/2006 1:55:34 PM

The place was clearly fine when you moved in, otherwise you would have gone elsewhere.

I believe society would have been substantially better off if Shrader rental properties had just refused to rent anything to you. Maybe you would have come to appreciate them more if you had spent a few months living on the street where, I hate to say, most things are not in code.

10/27/2006 1:56:22 PM

if anyone can gets news/hearing links on this post them so we can keep up with it

10/27/2006 1:56:35 PM

^^that's asinine

10/27/2006 2:04:52 PM

^ That's economics.

Market forces correcting stuff instead of the gov. stepping in and what not. The reality is that the greedy prick (probably, I don't know the guy) would have continued to exploit cash-strapped or desperate people by keeping his houses in the worse condition, hoping to never get caught.

[Edited on October 27, 2006 at 2:08 PM. Reason : ]

10/27/2006 2:06:53 PM

sorry but renting out houses that are not up to code and could possibly kill you because of some ones, the owners, negligence is not acceptable by any means, HE, the owner, is what is costing tax payers money not that tenate

my tax dollars are being wasted, i blame the owner for being a complete moron and jew

[Edited on October 27, 2006 at 2:10 PM. Reason : ]

10/27/2006 2:08:50 PM

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"It's good for the tenants, good for the neighborhoods, property values for home owners and good for the city as a whole."

How do you figure? By bullying land lords, you make is less desirable to be one; so fewer people become land-lords as it is not worth the headache; so fewer rental properties come on the market; so rents everywhere go up; poor people cannot afford higher rents, so some are forced to move away, others become homeless; with fewer workers comes less business and fewer jobs, the city as a whole suffers.

Good going there, punishing the very people that we all depend on for shelter. If a place is a dump then don't live there, find somewhere else that meets your standards. But we all know what you did here, you liked the low rent and moved in, and then threw a fit with the city when he refused to make the place as nice as more expensive apartments.

It isn't my intention to sound like a landlord, just be reasonable. If you are moving into a place and expect certain things to be fixed then get it in writing before signing the lease. This gives the land-lord the option of refusing your occupancy and finding someone else more willing to accept below-code living in exchange for low rent. Some people are not as well off as the rest of us and would gladly trade quality for price. But don't move into a cheap place and then demand a quality apartment (even if the law is on your side it is still immoral).

[Edited on October 27, 2006 at 2:15 PM. Reason : .,.]

10/27/2006 2:11:39 PM

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"and then threw a fit with the city when he refused to make the place as nice as more expensive apartments. "

did you read the guys post, no where in there did he say anything like that, what he did say was the landlord didnt fix things correctly, IE i am sure some of the things could have caused fires and killed people, or who knows what else

[Edited on October 27, 2006 at 2:14 PM. Reason : ]

10/27/2006 2:14:21 PM

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" just be reasonable."

That works both ways.

You shouldn't have to be a health inspector to tell whether or not the house/apt you signed a lease for will fuck up your health. Just because it LOOKS good, doesn't mean that it is. Once you've signed the lease, you're stuck. Hence the tenant's bill of rights.

10/27/2006 2:14:48 PM

LoneSnark, you are obviously not a homeowner are you?

would you like it if you owned a respectable and nice property, and the housing next door to yours was a complete dump? now imagine that you were trying to sell your property, who would want to buy your investment when the neighborhood is a complete shithole? You would be forced to then sell your property for $peanuts just to get rid of it. That means the value of your property is lowered because your neighbors live in a dump of a house.

these laws are in place to keep places where people live safe, and keep everyone's property values up

10/27/2006 2:18:05 PM

Bobby, I completely agree if it is something you didn't know about before signing the lease. This is why my land-lord made me sign a waiver acknowledging my apartment was filled with lead and asbestos.

But you can't claim Raige didn't realize the apartment had only 2-pronged plugs. I don't know about the water drainage or pipe type, maybe there are valid points there (I suspect not), but the ideal behind Raige's post just struck me as wrong-headed.

MiniMe, how does having your neighbor's house condemned help your property value? It sounds to me like Schrader property is suffering from a cash crunch right about now and cannot afford to fix everything, so the city is going to condemn the buildings and put up big signs saying "Unsafe! Stay Away!" Not to mention the suffering of all those tenants that now have no where to live. Thank goodness other landlords exist that aren't currently being bludgeoned by the city and are willing to house these tenants at a rent to be negotiated.

[Edited on October 27, 2006 at 2:25 PM. Reason : .,.]

10/27/2006 2:20:40 PM

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"But you can't claim Raige didn't realize the apartment had only 2-pronged plugs. I don't know about the water drainage or pipe type, maybe there are valid points there (I suspect not), but the ideal behind Raige's post just struck me as wrong-headed. "

if you read his post, you'd realize that they were 3 prong plugs that were wired without a ground which is even more dangerous than a 2-prong plug because it gives the impression of being grounded when it is not.

It is sad that things have reached this extreme that the building may be condemed and the owner will be heavily fined. However, if you look back to when things start to degrade, he could spend the same amount or less over time to fix things according to LAW, keeping his property value up, and not having to worry about being fined in the first place.

It's easy to point fingers now and say if you kept your mouth shut he could keep renting to low income and have an unsafe building. You should also think about if someone had spoken up sooner, things could have been caught before they got this bad. You should also think that if the owner followed code and kept his properties legal, then his tenants would have no reason to go to the government for help.

The owner is in a money crunch now because he gets his fines all at once. What has happened to his profits over the years? are they wasted or does he have them to fall back on? If he kept his property up, he could charge more and make more profit. He could cut his profits a little to keep his buildings livable and keep going without major fines that force him out of the business.

I'm glad that you are ok living in unsafe housing, but the majority of people would like to live in a safe home. Safety is worth the extra few bucks a month to keep the property up.

10/27/2006 2:41:25 PM

^what he said

10/27/2006 2:45:13 PM

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"But you can't claim Raige didn't realize the apartment had only 2-pronged plugs. I don't know about the water drainage or pipe type, maybe there are valid points there (I suspect not), but the ideal behind Raige's post just struck me as wrong-headed. MiniMe, how does having your neighbor's house condemned help your property value? It sounds to me like Schrader property is suffering from a cash crunch right about now and cannot afford to fix everything, so the city is going to condemn the buildings and put up big signs saying "Unsafe! Stay Away!" Not to mention the suffering of all those tenants that now have no where to live. Thank goodness other landlords exist that aren't currently being bludgeoned by the city and are willing to house these tenants at a rent to be negotiated. "

the problem wasn't that there was two pronged plugs. the problem is that they were thus replaced with grounded plugs that were not grounded. This completely defeats the purpose of having grounded appliances and could lure people into a false sense of security.

having your neighbor's property condemned doesn't help your property value. it is the threat of it being condemned that does. The landlord doesn't want his property condemned, so generally they make the necessary repairs to keep it up to code. This won't necessarily increase your property value, but it will not decrease it as it could without the regulations. And land is a hot commodity in a city, so I am sure if they are in that big of a money crunch . . . they can sell it and someone else will either rebuild or repair the property and thus keep property values up.


I suppose we should also do away with other governmental things like OSHA, since they will shut business down and put people out of work . . . huh? Who cares about living or working in a safe environment. [/sarcasm]

[Edited on October 27, 2006 at 2:51 PM. Reason : i took too long to type ]

10/27/2006 2:49:27 PM

One more thing that I implied but did not flat out say.

suppose Raige hadn't brought this to light and the building continues to degrade. Suppose a low income family moves in and the conditions in the building get worse and the family gets sick because it can't afford health care. Drainage condtions can cause mold which can be quite deadly if not treated.

Ok, so these people can't afford healthcare on their own, so who foots the bill? taxpayers. does the owner suffer? maybe if his tenants have to leave, but he can find others.

Suppose the tenants actually die in the building. who pays for their burial? taxpayers. what happens to the owner? he gets inspected then charged with negligence, his building is condemed.

suppose the problem is with a fire due to bad wiring and the family dies. again taxpayers pay, owner is charged, and his building pretty much has to be torn down and built from scratch.

so tell me why it is better to keep quiet for lower rent?
it's one thing to want plush carpet, good insulation, and fancey fixtures.

safety and upkeep are required to protect the health of the residents, keep property values up, and to keep your taxdollars from funding health issues caused by the degrading property.

10/27/2006 2:55:17 PM

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"The place was clearly fine when you moved in, otherwise you would have gone elsewhere."

I don't see how you can make that statement

10/27/2006 2:59:47 PM

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"I don't see how you can make that statement"

apparently you should hire someone to come in and inspect a place before you rent it just as if you are buying it.

10/27/2006 3:03:23 PM

LoneSnark is either trolling or is one of these hardcore anti-government people.

the kind that say the FDA, USDA, EPA etc should all be dissolved because they interfere with business. like saying if a drug kills people, then people wont buy it...let the market determine things. if a car is horribly unsafe, people won't buy it so the car maker won't make it in the first place. if a business over pollutes the environment then people won't buy their products etc etc etc

poll:which is he?



[Edited on October 27, 2006 at 3:12 PM. Reason : [user]]

10/27/2006 3:10:40 PM

He is hardcore free market, but he does make a lot of valid points in general.

10/27/2006 3:13:24 PM

^^ a little from column A and a little from column B?

10/27/2006 3:14:27 PM

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"How do you figure? By bullying land lords, you make is less desirable to be one; so fewer people become land-lords as it is not worth the headache; so fewer rental properties come on the market; so rents everywhere go up; poor people cannot afford higher rents, so some are forced to move away, others become homeless; with fewer workers comes less business and fewer jobs, the city as a whole suffers"

Wow, thats one hell of a logic chain you have there. Most homeowners are not afraid of code enforcement, they actually welcome it to a point to ensure they're living in a safe house. I'd also imagine there's some legal ramifications if someone gets hurt in a house because it wasn't up to code.

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"But we all know what you did here, you liked the low rent and moved in, and then threw a fit with the city when he refused to make the place as nice as more expensive apartments"

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"But don't move into a cheap place and then demand a quality apartment"

demanding safe housing != demanding comfortable housing

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"The place was clearly fine when you moved in, otherwise you would have gone elsewhere. "

So you're saying prospective tenants should bring in inspectors when evaluating places to rent?

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"It sounds to me like Schrader property is suffering from a cash crunch right about now and cannot afford to fix everything, so the city is going to condemn the buildings and put up big signs saying "Unsafe! Stay Away!" "

I'm sure thats it. I'm sure the company is totally stand-up and is just having a cash crunch at this one moment in time. I'm sure it has nothing to do the fact that this company has a reputation as one of the worst landlords around NCSU.



[Edited on October 27, 2006 at 3:41 PM. Reason : ]

10/27/2006 3:18:07 PM

Oh, didn't realize he was committing fraud.

Don't misunderstand me, please. I am merely arguing that people should be allowed to live in the conditions that they choose. If Schrader is lying to his tenants, making the plugs look 3 pronged, telling people the pipes are new when they are still made of lead, allowing mold to grow throughout the central AC system and not saying anything, then you are completely right and he is committing a crime called "Fraud" and you can sue and arrest him on these grounds. You don't need to threaten to condemn his property because society is already threatening to put him in jail. You can even charge him for lying by omission (he had a responsibility to disclose such obviously relevant information). Fuck, you could then withhold a portion of your rent and small-claims court would back you up ("Your honor, I discovered the drainage was unsafe, so I only paid him half the agreed upon rent." Judge: "Very sensible. Mr Schrader, you're lucky you got any rent at all after pulling a stunt like that.")

However, if before you sign the lease he sits you down and calmly explains "the pipes are lead, the paint is toxic, you will need to use bleach every month to keep the mold at bay, and these electrical outlets have only 2 wires, and because of all this you can have this 2000 sq ft house for only $500/month, what'ya say?" Then I wouldn't have a problem with it at all.

I hate liars and cheats as much as the next guy, but it is possible for the tenant to be the cheat, and after agreeing to this amazingly low rent they then proceed to have the city order the land-lord to fix everything, suddenly the tenant got a $900 house for $500, who is defrauding who in this scenario?

I don't see a problem with having city housing inspectors, running around making sure land owners are not defrauding their tenants. Requiring pre-lease disclosure of problems with a property is both sensible and easily enforced. I don't believe OSHA is a problem either, because I don't think workers can be trusted to know what unsafe working conditions look like. But I don't think expecting tenants to understand what they are getting themselves into after full disclosure is too much to ask.

10/27/2006 3:24:28 PM

why post in the thread if you don't even read the first 2 lines?

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"So a while back I posted about a problem i had with Schrader rental properties. Basically he refused to fix some things and the things he did fix were not in code. Replacing wall jacks that had 2 wires and no ground with ground plugs! "

10/27/2006 3:48:36 PM

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"You don't need to threaten to condemn his property... "

last i checked us basic civilians can't condemn property...

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" Requiring pre-lease disclosure of problems with a property is both sensible and easily enforced. I don't believe OSHA is a problem either, because I don't think workers can be trusted to know what unsafe working conditions look like. "

and you expect tenants to be able to spot problems like this in the XX minute tour they take of a place? do you expect landlords to be upfront about potentially hazardous problems and risk not renting the property?

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"However, if before you sign the lease he sits you down and calmly explains "the pipes are lead, the paint is toxic, you will need to use bleach every month to keep the mold at bay, and these electrical outlets have only 2 wires, and because of all this you can have this 2000 sq ft house for only $500/month, what'ya say?" Then I wouldn't have a problem with it at all. "

And again, what landlord (except the best of the best) is going to volunteer all this deal-breaking information? Not to mention he/she would basically be saying: "Hey, help me break the law and you'll get cheap rent"

10/27/2006 3:51:56 PM

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"do you expect landlords to be upfront about potentially hazardous problems and risk not renting the property?"

If it keeps them out of prison on fraud charges, yes I do. It seems to me Raige should have sued (if what she says is correct) in order to get a portion of her rent back (perhaps as much as half) if she had been led to believe the property didn't have these problems. But something tells me it looked like a dump when she moved in, only to be shocked that it was in fact what it looked like.

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"why post in the thread if you don't even read the first 2 lines?"

I'm still not convinced fraud was perpetrated in this case. Schrader has not yet been arrested by the District Attorney and Raige has not yet sued to get a portion of her rent back as she is entitled to do if the property turned out not to be what she was contracted to receive. However, it does appear the land-lord intended to commit-fraud in the future, so it is good they got caught now rather than later.

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"and risk not renting the property?"

If it is that much of a risk then they'll fix the problem, won't they? If no one is willing to live in a house with bad plumbing then he can always fix it, can't he? But you are right, as it is now, low-rent tenents cannot utilize the courts to keep their land-lords in line without risking having their home condemned by the city because all they can afford is below what the city considers a minimum.

10/27/2006 4:13:12 PM

Hahaha, LoneSnark you need to pick your battles, because this isn't one you are going to win.

1) There is a GLUT of afforable, up to code housing in Raleigh. Your argument that cheap rent = not up to code is completely arbitrary and in reality flat out wrong.

2) Even IF he declared up front that the rental wasn't up to code, had toxic paint, lead pipes etc, he STILL couldn't legally rent it, because it's against housing code, which is a prerequisite for renting property. You can't both agree to live in hazardous conditions, knowingly or not.

3) Schrader properties is HORRIBLE. I personally live in a Schrader property, and I can point out PLENTY of code violations that are absolutely ridiculous and have nothing to do with bad management.

It's one thing to have an old house with things falling apart, it's another to turn 2 bedroom apartments into 4 bedroom apartments, and in doing so, do the cheapest work possible and cut corners and not build to code.

4) Do you even know what the housing codes are? It's not exactly hard to have a property pass code for habitation. It's not all like you are suggesting that only posh, upscale properties meet code. In fact, I would bet you anything that more low-income apartment complexes meet code than private, higher priced rental houses/apartments do.

10/27/2006 4:18:22 PM

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"If it is that much of a risk then they'll fix the problem, won't they? If no one is willing to live in a house with bad plumbing then he can always fix it, can't he? But you are right, as it is now, low-rent tenents cannot utilize the courts to keep their land-lords in line without risking having their home condemned by the city because all they can afford is below what the city considers a minimum."

He doesnt rent to low end tenants. Nearly all of Schrader's rentals are houses and townhomes, which are considerably more expensive and he rents primarily to students.

So another one of your COMPLETELY ARBITRARY arguments is out the window. And he preys on the fact that tenants don't know their rights and can be bullied out of them. And no, they won't fix the problems because it's much cheaper and more likely no one will ever go through with it.

10/27/2006 4:21:07 PM

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"It's good for the tenants, good for the neighborhoods, property values for home owners and good for the city as a whole."

This is why Noen is wrong from the get go. He assumes that when shitty houses are condemned, the properties are magically transformed into "better" entities, making everything else better. You realize that this requires 1) investment and 2) time. Good luck finding investors when there is a "housing glut".

10/27/2006 4:30:26 PM

Just to repoint this out

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"I managed to get out without paying any late fees etc because I threatened to sue. Since I moved out he had a full year to make the fixes. That was almost a year and 3 months now."

They were given a chance to fix their property, even after Raige moved out. However, Schrader Rental has apparantly been a slack ass for over a year now, and has still failed to comply with housing standards that he legally was required to meet. I have no sympathy for their rental company at all -- Sounds like they had more than a FAIR chance to fix their ongoing issues, and decided not to.

10/27/2006 4:31:28 PM

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"There is a GLUT of afforable, up to code housing in Raleigh"

As I said, thank goodness we still have plenty of land-lords willing to shelter us.

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"he STILL couldn't legally rent it, because it's against housing code,"

I said morally, not legally. I don't think renting below-code housing should be illegal.

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"I personally live in a Schrader property, and I can point out PLENTY of code violations that are absolutely ridiculous and have nothing to do with bad management."

Did you know about them before moving in? If they are not what you contracted for then you can sue in small-claims court and get a portion of your all your rent back. Of course, if you knew about them before signing the lease then I have NO sympathy for you. You made your bed, now sleep in it.

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"he preys on the fact that tenants don't know their rights and can be bullied out of them"

failure of enforcement. If the tenant never finds out about an obscure problem with the property, but the land-lord does know, then having a city inspector tell them should be fine. Once they know, they can sue to get back past rent and the city can make it publicly known, so all future tenants know in advance what they are renting, perhaps by requiring future tenants to sign a city-issued waiver acknowledging the deficiencies with the property.

But no, our paternalistic society feels that it is not enough to inform people of prudent information, we need to make the decision for them by condemning the property.

[Edited on October 27, 2006 at 4:45 PM. Reason : .,.]

10/27/2006 4:42:51 PM

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"This is why Noen is wrong from the get go. He assumes that when shitty houses are condemned, the properties are magically transformed into "better" entities, making everything else better. You realize that this requires 1) investment and 2) time. Good luck finding investors when there is a "housing glut"."

There is a RENTAL housing Glut.

For BUYING property, there is an enormous disparity, especially in the NCSU area. There are TONS of people willing to buy condemned rental houses to refit them and sell.

You OBVIOUSLY have no fucking clue about Schrader's properties or this area of the city. A condemned house inside the beltline in Raleigh is like hitting a gold mine. Foreclosed and condemned properties are snatched up as soon as they hit it in an overwhelming majority of cases.

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"I said morally, not legally. I don't think renting below-code housing should be illegal. "

I do, because most people aren't well enough informed or educated to be able to realize the true implications of agreeing to live in squalored conditions. Hell I know a thing or two about all this, but I sure as hell have no idea what all the possible health issues are in living in below-code housing, nor do I think I should have to even have such potential in the back of my mind.

If you removed the legality from it, you would multiply the disclosure problems immensely, because there would be NO check against what the landlord CLAIMS and what is actually there. You keep mentioning how the current system keeps poor people from having housing, but how in the hell is a poor person supposed to ensure the landlord is telling them the truth? They can't afford an inspector to check his claims.

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"Did you know about them before moving in? If they are not what you contracted for then you can sue in small-claims court and get a portion of your all your rent back. Of course, if you knew about them before signing the lease then I have NO sympathy for you. You made your bed, now sleep in it. "

I'm not complaining or calling any inspectors about my place, mainly because I'm not contracted to live there, I live month to month. We haven't had a lease in 3 years. I sleep in my bed just fine, and I live in the place I do, but that doesn't make it legal for him to rent to us, and it sure doesn't make it my burden to ensure it is legal to inhabit.

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"But no, our paternalistic society feels that it is not enough to inform people of prudent information, we need to make the decision for them by condemning the property."

problem is, there aren't enough inspectors to inform people, the FEAR of the law is really the only thing keeping the landlords from doing this in even worse abuse than they already do.

Laws aren't about enforcement, so much as they are about the fear of repurcussions (sp?) if they are enforced.

10/27/2006 5:04:17 PM

WHOA, waaaay too many PM's. I couldn't find the original post so here's how it all went down. You'll see that it's not like I didn't give him a chance to fix shit. He ignored me a lot. Even his REPAIR guys know he's sleaze.

Basically 2 years ago I was broke as hell between jobs and I took a good deal on an apartment, or so I thought. I was only going to stay 6 months or so anyway until I got a new job. The apartment was in an old style house, thick wood doors, huge rooms, back yard, front porch etc. It was split in 3 apartments and I knew the other people living there.

think Beachhouse. I didn't expect much. Well not even a month into living there the water pipes burst, no water for almost a week before it's fixed, then mold, then the roof of the house needs major repair as it's leaking. He didn't fix that for a month. The Ac unit went out, took him 5 days to replace it. The electric sockets start to not work. He wouldn't fix them because he claimed it was an old house. Not a big deal since there were tons.

The breaker kept tripping for my apartment and I find out my entire apartment is on 2 breakers. 1 for the washer/dryer. the other for the rest of the house. (first illegal thing I found). The gas heater breaks. They have to install a new one and at the same time one of the chimneys falls over. Aka, it was so old and in disrepair that it fell off the house. They cap it and have to make a new path for the gas exhaust. Apparently they had been using it for the exhaust (illegal). They install a pipe with 6 turns in it that doesn't let the exhaust work well and a fan that's so god damn loud I can't be in the same room and have a conversation.

Then I find that most of the electrical sockets that show having a ground don't. They just used newer plugs with older wiring. The wiring is so old that the plastic is falling off the wire. Fire hazard. I point this out, he ignores me.

A smell starts and we find that all of the water from the house isn't going into the sewer it's going under the house. That's right, every bit of water from the washing machines to the sinks and bathtubs is being dumped under the house. Luckily the toilet water is going where it's supposed to. I let them know they pump the water out and do nothing else. It fills up twice more and they come and pipe it out two more times. I report it again and again and they "fix it". Well it's about this time I notice that my floor is sagging. rotting floorboards. Time to move out.

"We required 90 days notice. It's the law". Well... I used to rent properties and I knew that was a lie so I ask for it in writing. They claim they don't have to. So, I call up a friend of mine who's a city inspector and let him know my problem. He asks who my renter is and starts to laugh when I say the name.

It seems that he's known with the City of Raleigh on almost all his properties not meeting code. He's been fined so many times they've lost count. Noone has actually filed a complaint against him. I do. I file a complaint to the minimal housing group and they send an inspector out. When he's done he has 3 and 1/2 pages of code violations for a 4 room apartment. Even he was suprised.

He also inspects the other 2 apartments and one of them had a WALL FALLING DOWN in it. The plaster on the wall was sagging almost halfway to the floor but the tenant said that he had tried repeatedly to get them to fix it and they ignored him. The toilet above in the 2nd floor apartment and broken. It was toilet water damage.

According to the law if I had remained he would have had 90 days to fix all the problems. Since I didn't remain and moved out he had 1 full year to repair the damage.

I let his secretary know that I had filed a complaint with minimal housing and that if he refunded my deposit within 1 week I would walk away. I did this in writing. He sent me a check and I was happy and moved into Wildwoods of Lake Johnson (I highly recommend them IF you can find an open apartment).

I had all but forgotten about that hell hole until now. And then the phone call came... I'm still laughing my ass off.

10/28/2006 12:35:27 AM

Noen is right. The old crappy house I was in and it's location would sell for $300,000 easy. It's on 1/8 acre and 500 feet from NCSU. The rest of the road is nice houses, with giant old oaks lining the road.

Bagwell St is the name. http://maps.yahoo.com/maps_result?addr=hillsborough+st&csz=27606&country=us&new=1&name=&qty=

If you go on the street from hillsborough it's the 2nd hours from the end on the left. It looks much worse than when I lived there.

[Edited on October 28, 2006 at 12:42 AM. Reason : !]

10/28/2006 12:42:14 AM

SOMEONE PLEASE REPORT CHARLES DENNINGS.

I SHOULD HAVE THOUGHT OF THIS WHEN I LIVED IN ONE OF HIS SHIT HOLES

10/28/2006 12:52:22 AM

the dennings

lol

10/28/2006 1:10:01 AM

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"Bagwell St is the name. http://maps.yahoo.com/maps_result?addr=hillsborough+st&csz=27606&country=us&new=1&name=&qty= If you go on the street from hillsborough it's the 2nd hours from the end on the left. It looks much worse than when I lived there. "

Yo Raige....is the house you are talking about the blue one that is a giant piece of shit?

I actually used to live in the yellow one (33 bagwell) for 3 years...Wiring was faulty as shit and actually killed alot of my appliances through a massive power surge. Took me forever to get money from him. I actually had to settle with CP&L. Wires outside the house caught on fire...etc etc etc.

The dude deserves every bit of this shit. Fuck him and his super bitch whore receptionists. I hope he loses all of his property.

10/28/2006 1:33:22 AM

What gets me about Schrader is this: the man hides behind a righteous Christian facade. His vans all had scripture decals on them.

I've known two people who directly worked for him (one of them is one of my closest friends)...and the stuff I heard about Schrader was incredible. Like this one roofing job they did: According to housing code, you can have up to two layers of shingles on a roof before you have to strip it down to wood to re-shingle it. He regularly did three.

10/28/2006 1:59:23 AM

No no no that's not him. His employee's... well his lead repair guy is ultra ultra religious. He's one of those, fuck up all your life go to jail for years, become a drunk and then suddenly find god and straighten out your life.

His repair guys are the shiznit. At least that guy was. But what can he do. Best job he could find was working for schrader.

^^ yup, it's the blue house beside the yellow house of doom. Ever see the 3rd floor apartment? How the fuck can you put a kitchen in 4ft of space lol.

10/28/2006 11:33:41 AM

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"Bet this guy is wishing he spent the money to fix the stuff right the firstt ime, going to cost him an ass ton more money to get it fixed now and all the fees and lawsuits"

he can take pretty much as long as he wants to fix it. over a year is common when you count in appeals and whatnot. rules and regulations mean nothing.

10/28/2006 11:35:23 AM

^^I think I've been in there. I couldn't stand up in the kitchen, ceilings were too low.

10/28/2006 11:44:14 AM

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"^^ yup, it's the blue house beside the yellow house of doom. Ever see the 3rd floor apartment? How the fuck can you put a kitchen in 4ft of space lol. "

hahah yup. The bathroom was even worse. I could barely stand up in the shower. If I would have ever lived there, I would have knocked myself out trying to take a piss when I was drunk.

10/28/2006 12:41:08 PM

whats the latest on this?

11/9/2006 1:30:00 PM

oh heres a list of their properties

http://msweb01.co.wake.nc.us/realestate/OwnerList.asp?owner=Schrader&spg=1

11/9/2006 1:30:57 PM

haha

Maiden Lane

wow

11/9/2006 1:33:44 PM

I've heard nothing about it since. I don't know how prevy I am to the information since I no longer live in any of his properties. The most I'd be involved anyway is to give a statement that certifies I filed the initial complaint and that his "maintanence" sucks balls.

You have to live in the bottom of the barrel properties to rent from this tool. I wanted cheap and short term... I got what I paid for.

11/14/2006 2:05:03 PM