Hindiusm seems to be the most prejudice , since they group there worshipers into a class system

Islam seems to be composed of the most violent followers compared to the other religions

Christianity is the most commercialized religion and has followers who imposed their christian values on nonchristians the most compared to other religions. Also most christians within christianity seem the most divided of all other religions. In other words , they seem to have unneccessary diverse interpretations of christianity .

Judaism seems to composed of followers who , throughout the millineunium are either massacred or harresed for there beliefs the most by nonjews and gentiles.

Buddhism seems to compose of followers who are the most peaceful of all faithworshipers. They don't go around blowing themselves up or hijacking airplanes just because you don't agree with them. They don't go around other countries promoting their religions , or mixing their religion with politics. They don't have a class system.

10/30/2006 3:43:22 PM

In a nutshell, over-generalizing is an exact art of vagueness, and holds so much water, it spills over, generally speaking.

10/30/2006 3:45:52 PM

what a bunch of stupid stupid generalizations

10/30/2006 3:48:49 PM

Generally speaking, they're all a bunch of nonsense.

10/30/2006 3:53:49 PM

I did not say the religions themselves seem to be associated with these characteristics, I just said a good chunk of the followers of these religions seem to have these characteristics that I listed .

there not generalizations , there facts.

Jews are the most likely to be victimized by outsiders
Christians are likely more than other followers to imposed there religion on you. I mean, in the brickyard, all you see is evangelists spouting out 'yada yada yada' . What other religion in the US has there own channel .

Like it or not, currently, Muslims are likely to be the most violent compared to other followers of a different religion. Not saying the majority of Muslims are violent, but in this modern age, compared to the other small minority of followers of different religions that are likely to be violent, my vote goes to muslims

[Edited on October 30, 2006 at 4:01 PM. Reason : z]

10/30/2006 3:59:40 PM

why don't you prove these facts?

10/30/2006 4:02:32 PM

point?

10/30/2006 4:04:59 PM

Ain't gotta proved the obvious.

10/30/2006 4:05:42 PM

There is no point ! can't I make an interesting observation

10/30/2006 4:06:35 PM

you're not cool on tww unless you hate christians

10/30/2006 4:07:11 PM

lock plz

10/30/2006 4:07:23 PM

This may just be the worst thread I'll read all week.

10/30/2006 4:11:07 PM

well, since you're being "harresed" for your beliefs, i guess that makes you a jew, Penzoate?

10/30/2006 4:11:39 PM

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"Hindiusm seems to be the most prejudice , since they group there worshipers into a class system"

I read an article that described how this was a selling point Christian missionaries use in India, how in their religion there was no class system.

Problem then came up that the converted high-class Christians thought they should be treated with more respect still than the converted low-class Christians.

10/30/2006 4:12:48 PM

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"Buddhism seems to compose of followers who are the most peaceful of all faithworshipers. They don't go around blowing themselves up or hijacking airplanes just because you don't agree with them. They don't go around other countries promoting their religions , or mixing their religion with politics. They don't have a class system."

First of all,


Secondly,
You need to study modern Buddhism more thoroughly. Your data set is limited.

10/30/2006 4:58:02 PM

^winner

10/30/2006 5:17:30 PM

^ haha thats the first thing i thought of.

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"can't I make an interesting observation"

i guess the line between interesting and stupid is very thin

10/30/2006 5:18:19 PM

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"Christians are likely more than other followers to imposed there religion on you"

Yay for projecting limited ignorant views on the world as a whole! But I guess that's what happens when you make a generalization from a viewpoint that's very much not general right? This should read:

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"ChristiansThose of the local overwhelming majority, whoever the hell that would be, are likely more than other followers to imposed there religion on you"

[Edited on October 30, 2006 at 5:41 PM. Reason : ]

10/30/2006 5:40:20 PM

As a Christian who doesn't push his shit on anybody, i'm offended at that statement

10/30/2006 6:10:31 PM

It's possible to push your shit onto people at the polls, by the way.

10/30/2006 6:25:40 PM

it begins

10/30/2006 6:26:39 PM

Oh I'm not even saying he does, but you can.

The Christian who never discusses his faith with anybody but who votes to "keep them fags from getting married" is certainly pushing his shit onto other people.

10/30/2006 6:27:33 PM

I have an equal say in Government's stances on things like gay marraige than you do, or anyone else.

So I'm not pushing shit any more than you are when it comes to election day.

[Edited on October 30, 2006 at 6:30 PM. Reason : from an individual basis... but i see where you're going and I agree to an extent.]

10/30/2006 6:30:18 PM

All I'm saying is that since we all have equal say in the government, you'd have to either vote without any religious considerations or influences in mind or not vote at all to avoid pushing your shit on somebody.

[Edited on October 30, 2006 at 6:32 PM. Reason : .]

10/30/2006 6:32:09 PM

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"Hindiusm seems to be the most prejudice(d) , since they group [s]there[s] (their worshipers into a class system"

I know I took the bait, this has to be a joke.

When the hell are we going to get our <1000 posts rule in here?

10/30/2006 6:32:32 PM

What does it matter? Do you think the old guard actually produces better, more thought-out posts? I'd say by and far, they don't.

10/30/2006 6:35:15 PM

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"The Christian who never discusses his faith with anybody but who votes to "keep them fags from getting married" is certainly pushing his shit onto other people"

what if you're not christian but vote a certain way because there are other personal freedoms and issues that are more important to me than gay people getting married

***I don't give 2 shits if they do or don't, it aint my life or my bedroom***

I feel in the grand scheme of things an overwhelming percentage of the voting public doesn't vote on gay rights as an issue... I think most americans agree that there are more important fish to fry

[Edited on October 30, 2006 at 6:37 PM. Reason : .]

10/30/2006 6:36:06 PM

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"what if you're not christian but vote a certain way because there are other personal freedoms and issues that are more important to me than gay people getting married "

Not sure what you're addressing here, or how it's relevant to what I was talking about.

So yeah, what if?

10/30/2006 6:38:04 PM

well you made it seem like the people that don't vote for a certain party are voting because they "don't want fags getting hitched" or what not


and I'm saying that the majority of america probably doesn't cast their vote based on that issue

[Edited on October 30, 2006 at 6:45 PM. Reason : not trying to derail this further... just sayin]

10/30/2006 6:39:55 PM

if you give opinion polls any merit its actually a pretty popular issue

10/30/2006 6:45:30 PM

america as a whole is fucked then


***if that many people make it their hot topic voting issue***

10/30/2006 6:47:03 PM

All I'm saying is that religious folks vote from a religious viewpoint. Thus, if they vote, they do so pushing a specific religious viewpoint unless they're exceptionally good at compartmentalizing their beliefs. I didn't really make any valuations or judgments about that, just said it.

[Edited on October 30, 2006 at 6:52 PM. Reason : .]

10/30/2006 6:51:26 PM

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"Hindiusm seems to be the most prejudice , since they group there worshipers into a class system"

Hinduism has nothing to do with the class system. Class system or caste system was something created by people over thousands of years. Hinduism has nothing to do with it. Every religion including Buddhism, Christianity and Islam have caste system in India or for that matter in every country to some extent.

[Edited on October 30, 2006 at 6:54 PM. Reason : asdf]

10/30/2006 6:53:09 PM

Jews are the best. You never see them trying to convert anyone, now do you?

10/30/2006 6:55:48 PM

^ lol

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"All I'm saying is that religious folks vote from a religious viewpoint. Thus, if they vote, they do so pushing a specific religious viewpoint unless they're exceptionally good at compartmentalizing their beliefs. I didn't really make any valuations or judgments about that, just said it."

I agree, but isn't that why everyone votes... to vote for someone who might, at least in part, represent your views

I have beliefs that I vote on, but it doesn't have anything to do with the church

just wish someone that wasn't a retarded liberal or a jackassed big government republican could actually be elected

[Edited on October 30, 2006 at 6:56 PM. Reason : ..]

10/30/2006 6:56:18 PM

some religious folks

10/30/2006 6:56:57 PM

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"I agree, but isn't that why everyone votes... to vote for someone who might, at least in part, represent your views"

Yeah naturally. But this means quite a few people who claim they don't push their shit on people in fact do, in a much more profound way.

^ "unless they're particularly good at compartmentalizing their beliefs"

[Edited on October 30, 2006 at 6:58 PM. Reason : .]

10/30/2006 6:58:30 PM

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"The Christian who never discusses his faith with anybody but who votes to "keep them fags from getting married" is certainly pushing his shit onto other people."

Not really McDanger. Voting is expressing yourself. When you vote, you accept the fact that if you are not in the majority, your beliefs will not win. It is different from imposing oneself on others.

10/30/2006 6:59:59 PM

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"They don't go around blowing themselves up or hijacking airplanes just because you don't agree with them."

I don't know of any religion that does this.

10/30/2006 7:00:10 PM

its not just that. many christians are of the understanding that there is no scripture that says we should vote in a way to dictate our moral beliefs to the country and there is certainly no scripture that says we should expect it to work.

10/30/2006 7:00:12 PM

ehhh, both sides do

liberals push their agenda on me all the time

thats the way the system goes

10/30/2006 7:01:04 PM

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"its not just that. many christians are of the understanding that there is no scripture that says we should vote in a way to dictate our moral beliefs to the country and there is certainly no scripture that says we should expect it to work."

True but Christianity formulates many peoples' moral beliefs to begin with. This, naturally, will influence voting patterns.

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"Not really McDanger. Voting is expressing yourself. When you vote, you accept the fact that if you are not in the majority, your beliefs will not win. It is different from imposing oneself on others."

So wait. Does that mean if a bunch of Muslims got together and were able to push through a Muslim agenda, that they wouldn't be pushing their beliefs on others?

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"liberals push their agenda on me all the time"

Not saying they don't or even that the practice is a bad thing. It's why we're able to vote. However, this is also why religious folks are a lot bossier with their ideologies than they believe.

[Edited on October 30, 2006 at 7:03 PM. Reason : .]

10/30/2006 7:02:19 PM

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" True but Christianity formulates many peoples' moral beliefs to begin with. This, naturally, will influence voting patterns."

i guess thats true, but there are a lot of things i have a moral position on but i dont think the government should be involved in

10/30/2006 7:07:31 PM

Then I suppose you're one of the people good at compartmentalizing your religious beliefs, aren't you?

I have a hard time imagining that none of the factors involved in your public policy decisions are sterile of religious influence, despite how hard you try. Then again, not criticizing this per se -- people decide what public policy should be based on their personal opinions, regardless of how they're formed.

10/30/2006 7:09:28 PM

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" So wait. Does that mean if a bunch of Muslims got together and were able to push through a Muslim agenda, that they wouldn't be pushing their beliefs on others?"

There is a very thin line between the two, voting and imposing. When you vote, your beliefs are right and someone else is wrong. But you accept the fact that if you are not in the majority you will accept whatever the outcome is. Even if you lose, you have the freedom to follow your beliefs and let others follow what they believe in.

But when you are imposing, it is more like you are saying the other guy is wrong and he has to do what you think is right no matter what.

I am not saying voting based on religion interpretation is right.


[Edited on October 30, 2006 at 7:11 PM. Reason : asdf]

10/30/2006 7:10:48 PM

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"But you accept the fact that if you are not in the majority you will accept whatever the outcome is."

Do you? Sounds like the outcome is the same regardless of whether you "accept" it or not, or even the same if you didn't vote at all.

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"Even if you lose, you have the freedom to follow your beliefs and let others follow what they believe in. "

Depends on what gets enacted after you lose, doesn't it?

10/30/2006 7:12:09 PM

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"But when you are imposing, it is more like you are saying the other guy is wrong and he has to do what you think is right no matter what."

haha now aint that something

YOU'RE A BIG UNINTELLIGENT MEANIE HEAD THAT KILLS KITTENS AND HATES HUMANITY IF YOU DON'T VOTE FOR THIS GUY

10/30/2006 7:13:08 PM

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"Then I suppose you're one of the people good at compartmentalizing your religious beliefs, aren't you?"

im not compartmentalizing my religious beliefs, i just believe in having a limited government that doesnt dictate morality. nothing about my religious beliefs tells me that i should believe otherwise about the government, so im not compartmentalizing anything.

10/30/2006 7:13:16 PM

actually thinking about it i guess my religious beliefs do often influence my voting especially on social issues, just not in the same way as a christian conservative (and often times the exact opposite).

10/30/2006 7:15:54 PM

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" Do you? Sounds like the outcome is the same regardless of whether you "accept" it or not, or even the same if you didn't vote at all. "

Do I? The question does not hold good for me because I don't vote based on religion. Now what do I think of the guy who voted based on religion? I would not think he did it to impose his religion on me and I would also think that his interpretation of religion is wrong.

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" Depends on what gets enacted after you lose, doesn't it? "

Religion is not enacted in a Democracy. If it is, then it is not a Democracy. Ofcourse there will be certain issues that will be enacted and people think they are religious issues because people in a particular religious group share a common view about this issue. That is where the whole interpretation of the religion comes into picture. Almost everytime, these issues have nothing to do with religion, its some of the institutions within the religion that make those issues to be religious issues.

Gay marraige, abortion, etc should not be religious issues, but social issues. People should oppose or support them as social issue and not a relihious issue.



[Edited on October 30, 2006 at 7:27 PM. Reason : a]

10/30/2006 7:17:04 PM