hcnguyen Suspended 4297 Posts user info edit post |
kings (sacremento) could be looking to move if they don't approve a new arena today. anaheim seems to be the leading candidate. this would put 3nba teams in one area.
i know its not happening nobody has mentioned Raleigh but woudlnt that be cool? could we hold an nba team hockey team and ncstate? 11/7/2006 11:31:56 PM |
statefan24 All American 9157 Posts user info edit post |
shut up. 11/7/2006 11:32:48 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
The NBA sucks. 11/7/2006 11:33:29 PM |
bigun60 All American 1069 Posts user info edit post |
"If the NBA were on channel 4 and frogs making love was on channel 5, I'd watch the frogs, even if they were comming in fuzzy."
--Bobby Knight 11/7/2006 11:34:53 PM |
Førte All American 23525 Posts user info edit post |
^truth 11/7/2006 11:35:26 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
If the NBA were on channel 4 and frogs making love was on channel 5, I'd watch the frogs, even if they were comming in fuzzy. 11/7/2006 11:37:38 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
to answer this thread
HELL NO 11/7/2006 11:43:12 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Charlotte almost had to fucking beg to get the Bobcats.
You are the dumbest fucker on this board. 11/7/2006 11:46:52 PM |
Turnip All American 5426 Posts user info edit post |
lock. suspend. terminate. 11/7/2006 11:47:35 PM |
hcnguyen Suspended 4297 Posts user info edit post |
wait, what are you guys talking about? what am i dumb about?
[Edited on November 7, 2006 at 11:55 PM. Reason : how is this lockable] 11/7/2006 11:54:31 PM |
tracer All American 13876 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Charlotte almost had to fucking beg to get the Bobcats." |
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seems like the majority of charlotte didnt even want em...david stern just knew it was a good area for the nba and knew they could strive here once the bitterness of the hornets escapade wore off.11/8/2006 12:06:09 AM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "seems like the majority of charlotte didnt even want em" |
This is what I was trying to imply. I worded it incorrectly. The people of Charlotte didn't want the team. Bob Johnson almost had to beg.11/8/2006 12:10:41 AM |
PinkandBlack Suspended 10517 Posts user info edit post |
Youre fucking dumb to think that Raleigh could get an NBA team. 11/8/2006 12:11:04 AM |
tracer All American 13876 Posts user info edit post |
its basketball country, but an nba market requires a higher population than raleigh can provide based simply on the amount of games. the hurricanes have the same problem, and there's not really any hockey alternative. nba bball would have to compete with the college bball for customers. 11/8/2006 12:13:13 AM |
e30ncsu Suspended 1879 Posts user info edit post |
even if he moves his bishop and pawn he can only go to c1 or d2 11/8/2006 12:19:30 AM |
hcnguyen Suspended 4297 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Youre fucking dumb to think that Raleigh could get an NBA team." |
who said raleigh could get an nba team?11/8/2006 12:55:52 AM |
capymca All American 1013 Posts user info edit post |
^
WTF?? What did you make this thread for???
Quote : | "its basketball college basketball country" |
Fixed that for you....11/8/2006 7:58:22 AM |
beergolftile All American 9030 Posts user info edit post |
christ almighty
please suspend this guy, just for awhile
let's just see if this one suspension will eliminate shit like this 11/8/2006 8:10:14 AM |
kable333 All American 5933 Posts user info edit post |
First of all hcnguyen, if you're going to talk about my team, then spell the name of the city right. It's S-A-C-R-A-M-E-N-T-O. Second, learn how to use capital letters. It makes you look a little more intellegent.
Anyway, there is a lot of disagreement between the fans, the city board of Sacramento, and the Maloofs (owners). The fans want the Kings to stay in Sacramento, but them along with the board don't want to raise taxes to build a new arena. The Maloofs want the new arena so they could bring more money into the team. Arco Arena is one of the oldest arenas in the NBA, and despite selling out every year, they aren't making as much money as they could be. Yes, Anaheim is probably the best bet for their relocation because it's near Las Vegas, and as you know, the Maloofs own the Palms Casino in Vegas.
Personally, being a fan, I want the city of Sacramento to pony up along with the Maloofs and get the new Arco Arena. That's just me. I can't imagine Anaheim Kings or Las Vegas Kings. Stay in Sacramento. 11/8/2006 8:37:29 AM |
stowaway All American 11770 Posts user info edit post |
^250 miles isn't exactly "close". 11/8/2006 8:43:26 AM |
kable333 All American 5933 Posts user info edit post |
^unless you're flying, then it's like a 2-hr or under flight. 11/8/2006 8:47:50 AM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Youre fucking dumb to think that Raleigh could getwould want A NBA team.
" |
no one around here would want a NBA team why do you think they picked Charlotte to begin with?
hcnguyen, next time you get ready to make a thread...please back away from the keyboard11/8/2006 9:07:44 AM |
stowaway All American 11770 Posts user info edit post |
well shit, atl to iad is less than 2 hrs, they must be really close to each other. 11/8/2006 9:16:22 AM |
kable333 All American 5933 Posts user info edit post |
^^Well, I will admit, at least he gave an effort on getting this issue out. I mean, I do like the Kings, and I have had strong feelings towards them leaving, so at least we're talking about this. 11/8/2006 9:33:18 AM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
hcnguyen, thumbs up
11/8/2006 10:46:04 AM |
kable333 All American 5933 Posts user info edit post |
^Man, we didn't need that vis.
However, I would not mind flashing this logo.
or this...
or
11/8/2006 11:38:08 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
i liked when they had the names below the numbers on the jerseys, like mid-late 80s
COLLEGE BASKETBALL RULES THE NBA SUCKS OMG I LOVE COLLEGE PLAYERS THEN THEY MAGICALLY TRANSFORM TO NBA THUGS AND I HATE THEM EVEN HODGE AND CED SIMMONS AND ALL THE OTHER PLAYERS I LOVED 6 MONTHS AGO 11/8/2006 11:40:46 AM |
kable333 All American 5933 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, the powder-blue jerseys with the name under the digits were boss. I am waiting to save up for that type so I can get a current player like Bibby or Artest, or maybe an ol' schooler like Reggie Theus or Nate "Tiny" Archibald. Actually, a Kenny Smith one would suffice too. 11/8/2006 11:44:52 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
you gotta get the Waymon Tisdale man, come on
or shit fuck that, get the Vinny Del!] 11/8/2006 11:46:01 AM |
kable333 All American 5933 Posts user info edit post |
Haha, the Tisdale jersey sounds awesome. I'll probably be hard as hell to find, but yes, I like the idea of a Waymon Tisdale jersey.
Here's Theus in his Kings days:
[Edited on November 8, 2006 at 11:55 AM. Reason : Kings Throwback] 11/8/2006 11:53:07 AM |
hcnguyen Suspended 4297 Posts user info edit post |
you guys need to be suspended for not being able to read. i said i know they are not coming to raleigh. 11/8/2006 12:04:35 PM |
tracer All American 13876 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | ""its basketball college basketball country"
Fixed that for you...." |
i dont know, the hornets showed during their first 10 or so seasons (or however long it was) when they led the league in attendance that this can be basketball country with no qualifiers. i agree though that college basketball is the passion, but name some alternatives that could challenge it right now that are available to the people? i mean obviously college basketball is the favorite if thats all you have.11/8/2006 1:29:25 PM |
Crazywade All American 4918 Posts user info edit post |
Having a hockey team in NC State's basketball arena is enough as it is. 11/8/2006 2:08:02 PM |
amac884 All American 25609 Posts user info edit post |
11/17/2006 3:22:25 AM |
hunterb2003 All American 14423 Posts user info edit post |
fuck the Kings and hcnguyen 11/17/2006 8:09:34 AM |
The Dude All American 6502 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "even if he moves his bishop and pawn he can only go to c1 or d2" |
the nerd in me chuckled a little there11/17/2006 8:29:25 AM |
hunterb2003 All American 14423 Posts user info edit post |
if he didnt have all the spelling mistakes on easy words, it wouldnt be so bad 11/17/2006 8:30:45 AM |
kable333 All American 5933 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " Sacramento's savior By Adrian Wojnarowski, Yahoo! Sports November 16, 2006 The commissioner was working late on Wednesday, a conference call cutting into his evening commute out of midtown Manhattan. Far from the big city, out in the sticks in Sacramento, David Stern wanted to send word: The NBA isn't letting the Sacramento Kings leave without a fight.
The Maloof brothers had visited his office on Monday, determined for Stern to get between their franchise and city and between the acrimony and the risk of the regrettable resolution of exiting Sacramento. It's turned so nasty between Sacramento and the Maloofs that the Kings owners threw their hands into the air and gave up.
Essentially, they asked Stern: Step down out of the Olympic Tower, take over the new arena initiative and save the Kings in Sacramento.
"The NBA has never done anything to this scope," Stern said.
Maybe that's because the NBA has never had as profound of a franchise crisis as it does now. Stern has called this a "model" franchise in the sport, "a spectacular success story," and there's a genuine urgency for the commissioner's plans to visit Sacramento in early December and begin probing the possibilities with the politicians and developers and Kings ownership.
Make no mistake: The biggest issue in the NBA isn't about toy store basketballs and bad behavior technical fouls, but the stability of its most successful franchises. Sacramento has a league-best streak of 317 sellouts at Arco Arena, which has been the loudest arena in the league and the most anchored to its franchise. Pound for pound, cowbell for cowbell, there's a good case to be made for Sacramento as the best market in the NBA.
So, there's no salvation awaiting the Maloofs and Kings elsewhere, no city that'll ever love this team and cherish it and, yes, support it the way Sacramento has done in good times and bad. It won't be Las Vegas, where the Maloofs run the Palms Casino. Nor Anaheim. Nor St. Louis. Nowhere else.
The Maloofs lost a confusing public vote on a downtown arena initiative last week, a referendum that was never clear to anyone – not the citizens, nor the Maloofs, nor the commissioner. In the end, the campaign was punctuated with allegations that the Kings owners sabotaged the vote because they themselves didn't want to move downtown.
Especially in the West, the climate for public and private arena-stadium partnerships has never been worse. Good relationships go awry over building issues; love affairs between cities and teams turn traumatic. Nothing had ever come between Sacramento and its team – not Garry St. Jean coaching, not Olden Polynice playing center, nothing until this.
The NBA could live with the New Jersey Nets leaving East Rutherford for Brooklyn, but Sacramento is a soul-bearer for the sport, a beacon of possibility for small-market teams. "Some skeptics questioned whether the NBA could succeed in Sacramento," the commissioner remembered. It's flourished there, and it is everyone's responsibility to make sure this unravels no further.
Once, the NBA had a beautiful thing going in Charlotte, but when the city grew to disdain its owner, George Shinn, the people refused to ever vote him the public funding needed to build an arena. Charlotte never should've lost the Hornets, and it's a painful memory that was still on Stern's mind this week.
"It sort of dawned on me in listening that there is really nothing more important than this," Stern said. "Maybe I could have been more helpful in some other cities, like the first time that the Hornets left Charlotte."
If he didn't do enough to save Shinn from his political mess, Stern sounds determined not to make the same mistake with the Maloofs. He goes back with their father, George, to the early 1980s when he owned the Houston Rockets. His kids, Gavin and Joe, were the whiz kids who breathed life into one of the NBA's worst basketball operations. Sacramento was dying for a winner, and the Maloofs gave it to them.
Now this seven-year fight for a new arena to replace Arco has grown acrimonious, and Stern concedes that part of his job here is to "diffuse" the two sides. These are the worst fights in sports now: communities vs. owners, public vs. private funding. The arena issue has also raged in Seattle and Portland, two longtime thriving NBA cities.
Yet nowhere could the Maloofs move the Kings and ever replicate what's happened in Sacramento. Through everything there, the fans are still the loudest in the league and still selling out night after night. Just look at Memphis now. The Grizzlies were a novelty for a couple years, a hot ticket under Jerry West and Hubie Brown, but they're gasping for air now, ranking last in attendance this season.
As a sports town, the whole identity of Sacramento is wrapped up in its pride for the Kings. A recent Sacramento Bee poll found that six out of 10 citizens declared themselves Kings fans. Still, this has turned terrible. Public officials are decrying the Maloofs as duplicitous, and newspaper columnists are taking sides with city officials and developers here, the owners there.
All of it has been polarizing, and all of it needs the commissioner's political savvy and his deft deal-making.
"The Kings and Sacramento are an NBA success story and I'm not interested in seeing the success end in failure," Stern said. "We don't accept that."
The NBA shouldn't now, nor ever. This is a fight the NBA can't lose because here's something no one would've once ever believed about Sacramento:
This is a city the league can't replace.
Adrian Wojnarowski is the national NBA columnist for Yahoo! Sports. " |
Very good article. I hope Stern can help keep the Kings in Sacramento.
BTW, Kings lost last night to the Warriors. 11/17/2006 10:15:32 AM |