Don't give me any "advice" on what to do, because I don't want to hear it. I've already tried everything on the market. A prior agreement between me and my husband stands that if the cat pees on anything ever again (furniture, clothes) she goes outside. Well, she peed on a wool blanket, my daughter's comforter, and my papasan chair today. This is out of the blue - hasn't done anything for months, then all of a sudden this.

She hasn't really been outside since we've had her. She won't hunt, and I don't expect her to, as I plan to call her in to stay in our utility room for meals and overnight. I just can't leave her alone all day and it's a pain in the ass to dig her out from under furniture to lock her up. Suggestions? Aside from the obvious "throw her out" approach?

11/16/2006 7:41:22 PM

Use a chain

11/16/2006 7:43:13 PM

my parents' cat either goes into the garage or outside while no one is home.


It's routine now, but at first they would feed him out in the garage. They also leave it cracked.


He also comes and goes if he can find someone to open the door. They think he doesn't even use the litter box anymore.

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11/16/2006 7:46:20 PM

throw her out

11/16/2006 7:48:23 PM

in all my years with cats i've never seen a cat that didnt want to go outside ALL THE TIME after being let out a few times

11/16/2006 7:54:17 PM

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"throw her out"

So you are not looking for advice, instead, you are looking for advice?

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11/16/2006 7:56:08 PM

How old is the cat? If its never experienced outside, her first trip out alone could be the last time you see her. This thread reminds me, I need to update my missing pet thread in chit chat from all the run away cat flyers at the vet clinic.

Maybe phase her out. Go out there with her the first few times, get her used to it, and used to where to come to get back in.

Also make sure you do monthly flea & work treatments year round, and tick treatments in the spring since NC rarely gets cold enough to kill off all the dormant fleas. I believe with heartworms for cats there is no treatment, so if they are going to be exposed to mosquitoes you'd want them to have the preventative.

Most cats like to pee in the right place, if its all of a sudden, you might take a urine sample by your local vet clinic to have it checked out for any infection.

I'm not advising you to keep the cat inside, but even if you're kicking it out, you still wouldn't want her to be sick.

11/16/2006 7:59:06 PM

we don't have a garage :/

what I meant by "advice" in the first line was I don't want to hear the schpiel (sp?) on how to get her to stop peeing outside the box ... not that I don't appreciate the concerns, but it's too late for that now.


She's 3, never been outside since she was very tiny. She is spayed, on regular flea/tick meds, UTD on shots, and microchipped. What I'm most worried about are the other cats - most are neighbors' cats but a few are feral and like to fight.

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11/16/2006 7:59:35 PM

Luckily, theirs doesn't meow. So he sits and waits untill someone makes eye contact with him. He then walks toward the entry and back and towards the entry staring at you. It's kind of like when lassy would lead timmy's parents to hurt timmy--with out the barking.

[Edited on November 16, 2006 at 8:01 PM. Reason : get a flea/worm collar]

11/16/2006 7:59:45 PM

make it a monorail cat

11/16/2006 8:44:19 PM

if you dont have a garage maybe you can get the cat a small dog house and put it near the house. show the cat where it is and such so if you put her outside and she wants a place to hang out or sleep or if the weather is bad she has a place to go

sorry you're having the problem, that really sucks

what does the vet say? is the cat just stubborn or what??

11/16/2006 9:01:04 PM

she checks out fine. I think she learned the behavior from another cat we had ... that one went psycho when I got pregnant (went from normal happy kitty to angry cat) and we couldn't rehome her. We tried to break her of her habits but without luck and had to get rid of her, but I think the damage was already done. I think our other cat at the time (her brother, who we rehomed with my inlaws and he's fine) kept up the habit and taught it to this one. She's very sweet and I don't want to get rid of her completely, but I won't tolerate having my life be her litterbox.

11/16/2006 9:36:42 PM

any idea why some cats freak out over the pregnancy? i wonder why some spaz and some dont

11/16/2006 9:49:40 PM

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"Maybe phase her out. Go out there with her the first few times, get her used to it, and used to where to come to get back in. "

As long as the cat has claws, it'll most likely be okay.

11/16/2006 9:50:02 PM

Can't you get a travel companion and leave it inside in there all day? Or isolate is to a single room (bathroom?) all day? I'm not terribly knowledgeable of caring for cats ... but just two random thoughts off the top of my head.

11/16/2006 9:59:55 PM

- we used to have another cat, but he had other bad habits, and we rehomed him with inlaws where he's part of a colony with his parents and brother (my brother-in-law adopted two cats, one male and one female ... had the male fixed right away but thought the female was too young until ... surprise!)

- with the psycho kitty we couldn't put her out because it was January (couple years ago) and we tried the one-room thing. Crazy bitch would hold it all day until we let her out to still try to socialize with her and she'd run to her pee spot and do her business then hide. Yeah, that didn't work out. I don't want to see another cat go nuts like that.

- PMer suggests out day in night, something I already thought of ... it's getting her to actually come back that's an issue.

11/16/2006 10:42:23 PM

If you have bonded, that's not a problem. They'll show up when you show up. Kind of like a dog.

11/16/2006 11:00:48 PM

are you looking to fight them? come down to angier on tuesday nights at the horse stables we fight them out there. if you have a good trained cat you cna make an easy 200bux a night. just need to invest in about 15 bux worth of armor.

11/16/2006 11:13:55 PM

^don't forget to post that in the aardvark thread......

11/16/2006 11:19:13 PM

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" - PMer suggests out day in night, something I already thought of ... it's getting her to actually come back that's an issue."

My parents' first cat (which was abandoned at a young age and they had to bottle feed it) never went outside until it was like 2 years old (by then they had 2 other cats, a male and another female). After that, it would go outside for hours on end, but she preferred to piss/shit outdoors. My parents got tired of letting her in and out at every whim of the cat and finally put her outside for a few days... after that she has no problem staying indoors where it is warm and using the litterbox. Ofcourse I don't know if that works for all (or any other) cats, but sometimes your best option really might be to just throw it outside...

11/17/2006 12:09:07 AM

My parents just pushed their cat out the door and he's fine. 10 years later and he's still in the back yard, and he's declawed.

11/17/2006 12:36:48 AM

The only problem wiht indoor/outdoor cats is that sometimes they bring in a snack or sometimes a snack that isn't quite dead yet.

11/17/2006 1:34:59 AM

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"If its never experienced outside, her first trip out alone could be the last time you see her."

not true at all.

The following is a link about how indoor cats react once they get outside...

http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/lost_ct1.htm

11/17/2006 8:39:26 AM

take the cat out back and beat it over the head with a shovel

it is a damn cat for christ sake's and it is ruining your stuff, i wouldnt tolerate it one bit

11/17/2006 8:43:47 AM

our indoor cat sneaks out every once in a while. she comes back a few hours later.

i had an indoor/outdoor cat for a long time. he loved being outside and starting pissing and shitting on everything when i tried to keep him in. his favorite was to shit in front of the door so when you walked in you'd step in it. but he was the best cat once he was allowed to come and go as he pleased. that is until someone in my neighborhood put out poison...


most cats like going outside once they realize how much more fun and interesting it is.

11/17/2006 10:55:29 AM

definately sounds like a urinary infection. My indoor cat did this randomly just as you are describing. We took him to the vet and he had a near fatal infection (he's ok now though and doesn't piss everywhere).

11/17/2006 10:58:31 AM

11/17/2006 12:12:46 PM

do not make this cat an outdoor cat...cats are meant to be an inside animal.

do you realize how much damage cats do to small game, ground nesting birds, reptiles, and other critters that we are already pushing out of their natural habitat?

11/17/2006 1:53:09 PM

^^^ it sounds like shes already been through the motions with the vet

11/17/2006 6:17:52 PM

^^ HAHAHAH wtf have you been smoking. Cats are meant to be indoor animals?? What kind of shit are you smoking? We domesticated them and over time they have moved indoors. Cats do that because, they are eating. It's part of the natural food pyramid. Birds and rodents are below cats.

[Edited on November 17, 2006 at 6:31 PM. Reason : your profile suggests you may be trolling]

11/17/2006 6:30:53 PM

^ NO They're indoors because the baby jeesus said so. Ok?? I'm a freshman animal science major, I know exactly what I'm talking about.

11/17/2006 7:35:03 PM

the easiest way i found to do this is with a small caliber bullet and a shovel

11/17/2006 7:36:56 PM

yeah I've been through the stuff with vets etc.

as far as cats being "meant" to be indoor or outdoor, you can look at it either way; animals belong outdoors or domestic animals stay indoors. This one would not survive on her own because she never learned to hunt (that is taught by the parents, it's not 100% instinct) but as far as fighting/hiding/climbing she might be OK because she has claws. What worries me most right now is temperature. She's never had to grow a winter coat.

11/17/2006 8:07:41 PM

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"She won't hunt, and I don't expect her to"

bullshit, she'll hunt as soon as she's outside. they are predators, it's instinct.

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"t's part of the natural food pyramid. Birds and rodents are below cats."

no, the natural food pyramid is for animals that are native to that area. cats are introduced, and cause serious harm to species that aren't used to being predated upon by them. with rodents nobody cares, but with birds it is a big problem.


please don't make your cat an outdoor cat, if you need to just keep her confined to a room. there are too many cats roaming around

11/17/2006 9:18:30 PM

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"do not make this cat an outdoor cat...cats are meant to be an inside animal. "

Besides the grammatical issues, this is stupid.

11/17/2006 10:58:41 PM

^^ FYI, the other cat we had that we rehomed has become indoor/outdoor. He was never outside before we rehomed him. He still won't hunt and he's been in his current arrangement for over a year.

11/17/2006 11:39:47 PM

We trained my last cat to be indoor/outdoor. He was fed in either spot, and he spent most summer nights outside and winter nights inside. He would let us know when he needed to go out.
He also didn't wander off our property much, he would go to the edge and that is all. He sometimes went to the neighbors to hang out with their cat, but he didn't cross the street, he would go under it through the drainage pipes (which was kinda neat)

He just picked up from us that you never go in the road.

11/17/2006 11:44:57 PM

Don't give me any "advice"
(Sorry, can't do that)

Get a bag
Place a few big rocks inside
Put your "non hunting" cat in bag (tie it tight)
Throw bag in water
Walk away knowing you have made the first good decision in quite awhile

11/17/2006 11:52:50 PM

throw cat outside
if sticks around, ok, deal with it
if not, get new kitty

repeat trial again with the peeing thing

11/18/2006 12:19:02 AM

some people just shouldn't have pets

ActOfGod, please don't get another cat after this one

your track record sucks

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11/18/2006 12:32:25 AM

two of them were siblings from an oops litter - 3/5 had survived, and we took two. No one knows why some cats go bonkers, but one sibling did, and the other picked up the habit. We had them for 3 years (with no problems) before I got pregnant and kitty went nuts.

The other one was a 4 week kitten my husband found under a bush and I bottle fed her, and we ended up keeping her. This is the one that suddenly started acting out.

11/18/2006 12:42:53 AM

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"He still won't hunt and he's been in his current arrangement for over a year."

do you follow your cat around every moment he's outside? NO. any felid is a pure predator, no matter how hard you try you can't breed this out of them. your cat hunts, he just doesn't bring you home the presents that other people complain their cats do.

11/18/2006 3:43:33 AM

Some cats naturally like to be indoors and some naturally like to be outdoors. We had three cats and one of them was constantly jumping out windows, sneaking out the door, and generally doing everything in her power to get and stay outside. Once she got outside, she didn't want to come back in. She was fixed and up to date on shots, so we gave in and let her stay outside. She was very happy outside and would come up every time we went out the door for us to pet her. When she was inside, she was always ornery and antisocial. Well, my husband has a friend who owns a farm, so we thought she would be a lot happier there than in our scrawny yard. Plus, it was a hell of a lot farther from the road and cars than our apartment is (we live "in the country," but we still have a road about 50 yards from our house), so we gave the cat to the lady with the farm. The cat is so happy now. However, our other two cats are the opposite. Only one has accidentally gotten outside and she cried and cried until we found her at the backdoor and let her in. The other cat runs and hides under the couch at the mere opening of the door. Anyway, long story just to say that you can try putting her outside, but if she doesn't adapt to it very well, you may be better off giving her away to someone who can keep her indoors and maybe break her habits.

11/18/2006 1:36:37 PM

its just going to bring fleas into your house

11/18/2006 2:04:46 PM

its just going to bring fleas into your house

11/18/2006 2:04:52 PM

"throw her out"

11/18/2006 2:43:56 PM

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"its just going to bring fleas into your house"

You know, I'm not sure why, but my cat NEVER brought fleas in the house even though he slept outdoors half the time. We also never gave him any medicine or collars or anything.

11/18/2006 3:08:30 PM

are you looking to fight it? come down to angier on tuesday nights at the horse stables we fight them out there. if you have a good trained cat you cna make an easy 200bux a night. just need to invest in about 15 bux worth of head protection

[Edited on November 18, 2006 at 4:49 PM. Reason : .]

11/18/2006 4:47:19 PM