how long did the whole hiring process take? Especially time between you applying and them actually calling for an interview.

I don't have time for this shit to take forever.

1/12/2007 6:14:05 PM

6 months

1/12/2007 6:14:54 PM

you have to look at the bright side

once you get hired

they will never fire you nor lay you off.

1/12/2007 6:44:30 PM

Quote :

"you have to look at the bright side once you get hired they will never fire you nor lay you off."

1/12/2007 7:06:38 PM

It can be a month & a half b/w appling & the interview call for many jobs. Many can take much longer though, like with the SBI.

1/12/2007 7:12:53 PM

I remember the one job I had I forgot that I had applied then they called for the interview about 4 months later and then hired me 6 months later.

1/12/2007 8:23:25 PM

depends on the department. From initial to interview was 2 months. then I was offered the job about 2 weeks later mainly because of internal issues.

1/12/2007 8:29:19 PM

Applied Friday. Was called Friday afternoon to schedule interview. They wanted to do Monday, but I couldn't until Tuesday. At the end of the interview (probably lasted 40 minutes) they said they would call within 2 weeks. I got a call an hour later and accepted the job.

1/12/2007 8:37:20 PM

It took forever

Or well, a lot longer than it should have, considering I just moved from part time to full time.

1/12/2007 9:09:36 PM

it entirely depends on the job.

my current job, i applied mid sept. called for interview first week in oct (interviewed the following tuesday). Called to see if i would take the job just over a week later.

Previous job, applied beginning of may. called end of may for 1st interview. 2nd enterview was the 3rd week in june. received job around july 1st.

Other jobs, followed more like the 1st job. However UNC called mid nov for a job i had applied in sept.

1/12/2007 9:18:16 PM

It depends on who it is doing the hiring, the department's needs, and largely, the individual manager's push to get somebody hired. I was hired in 4 weeks from the time I got the first phone call because they wanted somebody quick.

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"once you get hired ... they will never fire you nor lay you off."

Um, not true. It again depends on a number of factors. It is more difficult to do either of those things, but not impossible. I saw a HIGH turnover where I was (>10%) due to a number of different factors.

1/12/2007 11:04:49 PM

so most likely it will take awhile, but its possible that it could be quicker.

'preciate it.

1/13/2007 1:05:22 AM

If you apply for a job at NCSU, know this:

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"Once approved by its Board of Trustees, NC State will begin conducting background checks on finalist job candidates. The planned effective date is March 1, 2007. Criminal conviction and sex offender checks will be conducted on virtually all new hires and internal transfers, with employment contingent upon a satisfactory check. Credit checks and motor vehicle/driving record checks will also be conducted for some positions as required by their job duties. The goal is to help support a secure environment for all members of the University community and to help safeguard the University's funds, property, and other assets. All newly hired regular faculty, special faculty, EPA non-faculty professionals, post-docs, SPA staff, and temporary employees (other than students) will be subject to the checks. Backgrounds will be run on current employees if they are finalist candidates for internal transfer opportunities. Human Resources will conduct the checks and clear finalist candidates' suitability for employment. Determinations will be based on factors such as the specific duties of the job; relevance of the background-check findings to the job duties; the seriousness of any findings and length of time passed; information provided by the candidate regarding the findings; compliance with imposed sentences, sanctions, or corrective measures; subsequent activities, work record, and references; and potential risk to the University. Costs will be allocated to the colleges and divisions based on their hiring activity levels [emphasis added]."

FYI.

PS: What's next? BTW, that's what we need here--more "costs."

1/13/2007 1:23:50 AM

^please, almost every other job will do criminal checks on you. Shoot even McDonalds does it for their higher level employess.

As for the driving checks, Domino's does that. they don't want idiots driving around and then having an accident and making the company insurance go up.

Lastly the credit checks are for people in finance positions, after the huge fiasco with the Wake County people stealing money to pay debts.

1/13/2007 10:01:59 AM

it took about 2 months for me to apply, interview, and be hired for my state job...

1/13/2007 10:18:39 AM

how long did it take for shit to be thrown

1/13/2007 10:19:26 AM

^ha, that one wasnt a state job, but...it took about 1 day

1/13/2007 10:20:58 AM

mine took like 2 mos and we had a guy take 6 mos to get hired, only to quit on the 2nd day

it can be painfully slow . .

1/13/2007 11:21:47 AM

^x5 My points are (1) NCSU has managed all these years without these intrusive probes--are all the current employees now suspects?

(2) Many NCSU employees do not drive as a part of their jobs--many don't even need a driver's license.

(3) How do we know about the "Wake County people stealing money to pay debts"? They were caught, that's how--and they have been punished with prison time and forced to pay restitution. I do not agree with your suggestion that a job candidate with poor credit is a thief in the making. Did you ever stop to think that the people with excellent credit might be stealing or committing some other criminal act(s) to maintain their lifestyle?

(4) Everyone is not a goody two shoes--like some appear to be--but that doesn't mean that he or she would not make a good employee. You do not get a quality guarantee with any person you hire.

And (5) the last thing this University needs is more unnecessary costs. The colleges and divisions will not see a positive return on their investment for this feel-good effort--hell, I'll bet they don't even see a return of their investment.

1/14/2007 4:15:54 AM

just an FYI, when I worked for DPI downtown, the whole hiring process took about 10 days from first interview until I was sitting in my new office.

Depends a lot on the urgency and the Agency.

1/14/2007 6:19:17 AM

^^
1) Its standard for several jobs out there to do background checks. I had to have one done to do stocking at Target ... and that was about 5 years ago.

2) Correct. Read the passage ... if driving is a sigificant part of the job, it will be required.

3) We don't. Sabanes-Oxley hit big companies almost immediately ... now its practices are starting to filter down to other places as good/standard operating procedures.

4) Good point. However, such logic doesn't relate to anything for or against doing background checks.

5) Its not a feel good effort, its standard business practice. And if you want to make the subtle arguments about costs, I suggest you back it up with facts instead of speculation. If you can find out what the average cost is per finalist to get these checks done versus the actual return, please let us know.

1/14/2007 7:46:34 AM

I know a lot of jobs for the state require they interview so many people, which means it can take as long as it takes for that many applicants to interview. They can otherwise defeat this process with paperwork which itself takes at least 2 weeks. I was hired in less than a month but there was a lot of paperwork and everything was expedited to make it happen

1/14/2007 10:07:08 AM

^^

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"Sabanes-Oxley"

Concerning the abovementioned quotation, would the Sarbanes–Oxley Act of 2002 ("Sarbox") have done anything to prevent the Enron, Tyco, WorldCom, and other scandals from happening? Of course not--the answer is self-evident. What Sarbox does is stiffen penalties for wrongdoing--after the fact--and that is the approach that I support. Punish me as a criminal once I commit a crime, but don't treat me as a suspect beforehand.

Concerning the background checks, I never said I was against them all--security and other sensitive positions, targeted financial positions, and so on. Some might need to be conducted simply to limit liability in our overly litigious society. My point, which you summarily dismissed, is still a valid one: You get no quality guarantees with any new hire.

Concerning costs, all that anyone could offer is projections. The new policy hasn't even been implemented, and these types of ROIs are difficult to measure. Those learned people who make an attempt to analyze such expenditures--like random drug-testing--usually reach the conclusion that there is not a positive return on investment. Yet, at many companies, management continues to drug test employees because it makes some managers feel good--thus, the "feel-good effort" line.

[Edited on January 14, 2007 at 11:06 PM. Reason : http://www.privacyrights.org/fs/fs16-bck.htm#5]

1/14/2007 10:55:04 PM

a week

1/14/2007 11:04:13 PM

how would you take it if you applied by the closing date, but then saw that it was extended?

1/15/2007 12:16:34 AM

Then there isn't at least 2-3 decent candidates.

1/15/2007 1:12:27 AM

Does teaching count?

6 hours between applying and hiring

1/15/2007 1:24:30 AM

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"Then there isn't at least 2-3 decent candidates."

That's according to the people doing the hiring. Trust me, a lot of times they don't know what the hell they are doing or they are just too damned picky for the money and the position.

([Not an actual example] Processing Assistant III; bachelor's degree required (master's preferred); annual salary: $22,108. But I HAVE seen similar ridiculous job postings.)

[Edited on January 15, 2007 at 2:15 AM. Reason : V I hear you. I'm just saying that they're often wrong and much too picky.]

1/15/2007 1:52:54 AM

so not necesarrily that there were NO decent candidates....just not enough possibly for them to justify moving on to the callback/interview process.

1/15/2007 2:10:17 AM

Federal job

applied in the morning, got voice mail that evening, set up a interview on the last possible day(had to go from the beach to Asheville) usually doesnt happen that fast, but they needed people bad.

1/15/2007 2:23:12 PM

^^ I used to visit friends at ECU a lot--I had a hell of a good time! Halloween used to be killer there, but it just got too damn big.

^ What type of federal job, can you say?

1/16/2007 2:41:55 AM

Michael Devlin (the Missouri kidnapper) had "no criminal record beyond a pair of traffic fines." Yeah, these types of background checks would have done a lot of good in detecting a guy like this.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16612257/

[Edited on January 16, 2007 at 3:36 AM. Reason : Background checks: Credit, criminal, and so on.]

1/16/2007 3:35:09 AM

the state can be slow as fuck in the hiring process thats for sure and well documented in this thread

1/16/2007 9:22:30 AM

depends

1/16/2007 9:45:07 AM

3 months

I had forgotten I applied

1/16/2007 10:58:23 AM

Any word on when the hiring freeze will be lifted, if at all? I figured the passing of the budget would lead to some good news. I had an interview in mid-April and still have been waiting to hear if anyone has gotten hired. I called the supervisor I interviewed with a few weeks ago and the freeze was still in effect.

7/22/2013 10:00:36 PM

If there is a hiring freeze it would be specific to the particular department.

There is no general hiring freeze going on.

I just went through the whole hiring process once finally getting approval to post a position (after 6.5 months).

Position posted mid may; got resume's back in ~1.5 weeks; Interviews done within 1 week of that; Took 1.5 week to get hiring recommendation approval. New employee started end of June.

But every department is different.

7/22/2013 10:46:18 PM

About 2.5 months.

7/23/2013 7:34:02 AM

Yeah, I have heard it was probably department specific. Thankfully I can keep waiting, but it'd be nice to GTFO of here and come back to NC.

7/23/2013 8:14:11 AM

Last year around April, I was looking for other jobs while working this other crappy job. I actually emailed a guy, saying that I am interested in his work and if he had any thoughts as to what the future of his lab was, and attached my resume. He responded by saying that he was thinking that he needed a lab manager and that I could probably help him out. (I also knew one of his colleagues which helped me out.) After 3 months, he had a job description basically pulling from my resume. He finally posted it in early August. I applied and interviewed for the 3rd time in September. He offered me the job during the week of my honeymoon (Nov 15th), which I had no access to my phone or email for a week. When I got back, he had offered it to someone else. That's 7 months of waiting and then he can't even wait a week. Sucks because that was a good paying EPA position. No weekends and I get my holidays off. Which was >>>>>>> my last job.

7/23/2013 9:49:49 AM

When I worked for NCSU they didn't do a background check.

When we hired people we'd post the job 1.5-2 months before we actually started interviewing. We didn't background check anyone as far as I know.

7/23/2013 11:00:53 AM

i believe there's a background check on everyone.

They might not call any references, but I believe they do take a look at your criminal record.

7/23/2013 3:52:52 PM

Quote :

"That's 7 months of waiting and then he can't even wait a week. Sucks because that was a good paying EPA position"

You applied for a state job at the EPA?

7/23/2013 4:25:07 PM

it can also mean permanent employee iirc. EPA/SPA jobs

7/23/2013 4:47:02 PM

Quote :

"That's 7 months of waiting and then he can't even wait a week. "

No, you typically aren't allowed to. It's not that simple.

If you actually can get a position posted, you are often expected to quickly turnaround the interviews & then the job offering. In my department, management expects you to turn around resumes within 1 week. (This means resume review, setting up & completing interviews, & making recommendation) And once hiring approval is made, you only wait 2 days before moving on to the next candidate (this is the wait time for setting up interviews as well).

The hold-ups with vacancies are not with the managers. If the manager is any good, he is not going to sit around and wait for people. I've been in labs for 2 different departments and this is just how it is.

If you are expecting to be contacted about a position, you better be available for contact, or you should let someone know.

[Edited on July 23, 2013 at 8:42 PM. Reason : ]

7/23/2013 8:39:39 PM

Quote :

"If you are expecting to be contacted about a position, you better be available for contact, or you should let someone know."

He knew I was in Italy. It was just ironic that I had been waiting for his call for a long time and when I had no cell phone service or email, that is when he contacted me.

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"In my department, management expects you to turn around resumes within 1 week. (This means resume review, setting up & completing interviews, & making recommendation) "

I applied for a position in mid May, had my interview in July and I am waiting to hear back for an answer. I honestly believe the process varies. With this being said, I applied for a job a few years ago and immediately the hiring manager called me and hired me on the spot.

7/24/2013 12:14:13 PM

Technically, I work for the state of California. I have mixed feelings about this

For the university I work for, no background whatsoever. For the JC I work for, they finger printed me.

[Edited on July 24, 2013 at 2:25 PM. Reason : .]

7/24/2013 2:24:28 PM

UNC is mad slow, for my job they had to go get a grant so it was like 4 months, but on average it's like 2-3 months.

It takes those lazy asses a month just to do the background check.

7/25/2013 3:49:57 PM

I guess I can add to this thread now.

Applied to a job in April.

Received an email about a phone interview 3 months later (I had completely forgotten about this job. Had to look it up to see what it was about). Had a phone interview a few days later.

A week later had an in-person interview.

Three business days later received the job offer. WHICH HAPPENS TO BE TODAY!!!

Slow, but hopefully worth it!





[Edited on July 30, 2013 at 3:52 PM. Reason : ]

7/30/2013 3:51:48 PM