http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16691101/

Hearsay may soon become admissable evidence in terror trials. In other words terror suspects may be tried, convicted, and executed based on hearsay.

1/18/2007 4:36:05 PM

whats the difference in this and "Joe said you committed this murder against another US citizen here in the United States; we will now kill you"?

I mean hypothetically people can lie in a regular domestic court case..is this really a revelation? Maybe I'm missing something

1/18/2007 4:40:23 PM

^ Sorry, wrong thread title. The whole point of this thred is that hearsay may be considered admissable evidence in terror trials, so the title should've read more like "Joe said Bob told him you're a terrorist. We will now have to kill you."

1/18/2007 4:44:02 PM

^^ i think the difference is that technically, hearsay is not enough evidence to convict someone of a felony or major crime in a criminal court. I think there has to be actual proof, or proof beyond a reasonable doubt, which hearsay is not.

i could be wrong though....

1/18/2007 4:52:17 PM

Que the "save our hides" brigade.

1/18/2007 8:00:51 PM

Que?

1/18/2007 8:11:42 PM

haha

1/18/2007 8:15:57 PM

Hmmm. How's that spelled, then?

You know... "Ok, that's our ________"

1/18/2007 8:19:55 PM

Cue /= Que

1/18/2007 8:20:52 PM

That's it. Thanks.

1/18/2007 8:22:42 PM

yeah, but the funny comes in when you translate Que from Spanish to English, as Mr. Joshua noted

1/18/2007 8:25:11 PM

Oh, oh you speak English!

No, just that first speech and this one explaining it.

You .... you're kidding me, right?

Que?

1/18/2007 8:30:07 PM

1/18/2007 8:38:52 PM

QUE?





[Edited on January 19, 2007 at 12:26 AM. Reason : ]

1/19/2007 12:22:42 AM

Quote :

"whats the difference in this and "Joe said you committed this murder against another US citizen here in the United States; we will now kill you"? "

well for one hearsay is not allowed except for certain situations

1/19/2007 12:40:30 AM

Crystal Mangum said you're a rapist... now your life is ruined

or. anything to do with sex - all it takes is a fucking accusation

1/19/2007 8:18:59 AM

^^Certain situations? Like what? Can't terrorism be a certain situation?

I'm not saying it should be, I'm asking.

1/19/2007 8:34:07 AM

excited utterances or something like that. basically if they say something to someone as they are dying. at least thats what tv shows have taught me.

so no, this could not be one of those situation.

[Edited on January 19, 2007 at 9:04 AM. Reason : .]

1/19/2007 9:03:45 AM

Ok, well what I meant was: If they have exceptions, could terrorism simply be added as one of them.

But I thought the exceptions were for certain crimes, not for being on your death bed or whatever.

1/19/2007 9:10:29 AM

no

1/19/2007 9:16:07 AM

lol, thanks for the 'no'
I couldn't have put that together myself.

1/19/2007 9:29:07 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hearsay_in_United_States_law

Quote :

""Hearsay" is a legal term that describes a class of evidence generally disallowed by most courts in the United States. ... The Federal Rules of Evidence provide a general definition of hearsay as a "statement, other than one made by the declarant while testifying at the trial or hearing, offered in evidence to prove the truth of the matter asserted." Subject to two classes of "exemptions," this definition classifies a statement as hearsay if the statement meets two requirements: (1) the statement must be extra-judicial (i.e. not made by this witness in this proceeding). (2) The statement must be offered to prove the truth of what the statement asserts if anything. Put another way, if the probative value of the statement depends on the credibility of the person who made it, that statement is necessarily offered for the purpose of proving its truth. ... One major misconception about the hearsay rule is that hearsay is never admissible in court. While the general rule is that such evidence is inadmissible, there are many exceptions."

1/19/2007 9:39:36 AM