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"SAVANNAH, Ga. - A convicted child molester and his father took turns sexually assaulting a 6-year-old boy while the molester’s mother watched, then they choked the boy to death, according to an indictment issued Wednesday. The indictment charges all three family members with murder and child molestation in the slaying of young Christopher Michael Barrios, whose body was found last Thursday inside a trash bag dumped by a roadside. It also claims George Edenfield and his 58-year-old father sodomized the boy and forced him to perform oral sex while Peggy Edenfield watched and masturbated. “They deserve the worst, for them to torture my son like that, every last one of them,” said Mike Barrios, the slain boy’s father. "

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17739868/

[Edited on March 24, 2007 at 2:30 AM. Reason : .]

3/24/2007 2:29:24 AM

I haven't heard anything about it. Why is the MSM covering this shit up?

3/24/2007 3:02:51 AM

goddamn.

everyone of those three should be summarily shot point blank between the eyes.

i would want to do it myself, except that out of common courtesy I would offer either of the boy's parents the opportunity first.

...


and Salisburyboy should be severely beaten just for being related to these inbred sick fucks.





[Edited on March 24, 2007 at 3:18 AM. Reason : ]

3/24/2007 3:05:58 AM

i'm still finding it hard to concern myself explicitly with this one murder. Murders happen everywhere. Why should I be concerned with just this one?

3/24/2007 10:29:39 AM

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"It also claims George Edenfield and his 58-year-old father sodomized the boy and forced him to perform oral sex while Peggy Edenfield watched and masturbated."

my god that's just so fucking perverted and sick

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"everyone of those three should be summarily shot point blank between the eyes."

why would you give them that privelege?

i think they should be forced to perform all sorts of normal and perverted sex acts on each other in turns and also as a triangle, for like a month or so, for 12 hours a day.

then they should be choked to death.

3/24/2007 10:58:16 AM

OMG read this:

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"His father, David Edenfield, pleaded guilty to incest in 1994. He was accused of having sex with an adult relative who was not his son."

WTF he had sex with his nephew or something???

that's one sick family.

i don't know what it is. science hasn't advanced enough to tell us if people choose to do harmful sexual perversions, or they are "wired wrong".

even if they are wired wrong, and 90% of the blame should fall on their genes, and 10% on their conscience, this is definitely one instance of wrong wiring where everybody would agree that they should be killed, even if these urges are not under their control.

that's definitely where nature messed up.

but even if they are wired wrong, people still have the faculty to tell right from wrong, and forcing their perversions on a kid is wrong. if they do this with adults with consent, that's another thing (still completely sick, though).

3/24/2007 11:15:24 AM

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"i'm still finding it hard to concern myself explicitly with this one murder. Murders happen everywhere. Why should I be concerned with just this one?"

salisbury boy made a big stink about some black guys horribly killing and raping a white person, as if blacks are killing whites all the time and somehow getting away with it.

roddy found the reverse and made a thread with the same title as a (twisted) counterexample.

(yeah, it took me a bit to figure it out too, since i dont normally read Salisbot's posts anymore)

3/24/2007 11:55:54 AM

People suck.

3/24/2007 2:55:44 PM

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"but even if [these inbred sexual deviants] are wired wrong, people still have the faculty to tell right from wrong its only a matter of time before they fuck someone else up. save the rest of society all the tragedy and shoot the fuckers in the head now"

im going to have to diverge from my traditionally liberal stance on this one.

or maybe it *is* the liberal stance. well, it would be if I was in charge.






[Edited on March 24, 2007 at 3:47 PM. Reason : ]

3/24/2007 3:39:54 PM

^^^He knows all that.




Anyway, I wanna know the IQ of the bitch in the middle. She doesn't look too bright.

[Edited on March 24, 2007 at 3:40 PM. Reason : ^?]

3/24/2007 3:40:09 PM

^^How can we tell who is wired wrong and who isn't?

Tell me you just haven't thought your plan through.

[Edited on March 24, 2007 at 3:42 PM. Reason : sss]

3/24/2007 3:41:40 PM

^ for starters, people convicted of incest and predatory child molestation is the first clue.

by and large most experts admit there's just no rehabilitation for these predatory sexual offenders. they will reoffend given time and opportunity.

3/24/2007 3:49:16 PM

ok. ill back off a bit. i can be fair.

Level III predatory sexual offenders (and any type of child molestation)

first offense: castration, jail sentence, lifetime monitoring and public notification to the community in which they live.

second offense: execution.

done.

3/24/2007 3:54:32 PM

Oh okay. I thought you were talking about all people who seem to be wired wrong.

I just rechecked and you just said "inbred sexual deviants." Lock em up and throw away the key. Meh.

3/24/2007 4:05:52 PM

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"^^How can we tell who is wired wrong and who isn't?"

we can't tell now, but medicine can solve the puzzle one day.

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"save the rest of society all the tragedy and shoot the fuckers in the head now""

SCENE: Delivery room

Doctor: Here he comes out... a beautiful little boy, Mrs. Smith... let's just take a quick skin prick to test his blood in our GENX 2500 screener for future diseases and tendencies.

Mother: He is so gorgeous... can I hold him?

Doctor: [takes quick skin prick for blood] Sure here you go.

Mother: Gooo gagaga you are my wor...

[interruption]

Doctor: Uhmm, m'am, sorry to tell you, he will develop diabetes in old age, but more worrisome, he will be a horrific child molester one day.

[Enter SUPER JOE, comes crashing in through room window]

DID SOMEONE SAY "CHILD MOLESTER"?

*BANG* *BANG*

HAVE A NICE DAY!


[Edited on March 24, 2007 at 4:10 PM. Reason : ]

3/24/2007 4:09:25 PM

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"first offense: castration, jail sentence, lifetime monitoring and public notification to the community in which they live. second offense: execution. done. "

3/24/2007 4:47:32 PM

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"by and large most experts admit there's just no rehabilitation for these predatory sexual offenders. they will reoffend given time and opportunity."

sex offenders have a lower recidivism rate than any other offender.

3/24/2007 5:17:06 PM

^ That may be though because the term "sex offender" is very broadly applied.

3/24/2007 5:45:03 PM

i think we should call this the "brunswick stew." what a new sexual craze.

3/24/2007 7:33:57 PM

Brunswick stew tastes too good for me to associate it with some nasty child molesting nephew fuckers. These people disgust me.

3/24/2007 8:49:30 PM

I would like to point out that, like most pedophiles, these people are white

3/24/2007 8:52:43 PM

I would like to point out that, like most incestuous freaks, these people are white

3/24/2007 9:14:19 PM

gross that made me hurl

3/24/2007 9:41:30 PM

Let's not make it a racial thing just because Salisburyboy made his thread about the race of the individuals. It's not any more (or any less) a heinous crime because the kid was black. (and vice versa in the other case)

Joe_schmoe: I assume you're talking about actual castration not chemical castration yes? It seems it ought to be a permanent procedure with absolutely no chance of reversal. (And it also doesn't account for the fact that rape isn't about sex... so perhaps a lobotomy should be added to the first offense response)

3/24/2007 9:54:51 PM

yeah yeah yeah

everyone parrots that shit, "rape isnt about sex". whatever, maybe so, but I'm gonna go out on a limb and suggest that if you cut a pedophile's balls off, he wont be raping any more kids.

and im not talking about your garden variety schmuck who gets brought up on the average date rape charge.

Im talking about Level III predatory sex offenders, those who are judged to be agressive and likely to reoffend. and those who attack the most vulnerable people possible: children, elderly and mentally disabled.

cut their fucking balls off. then put them on a short leash. and if they try it again, take em out back and put a bullet between their eyes.

3/26/2007 12:32:00 AM

where is salisburyboy?????

3/26/2007 1:09:23 AM

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"joe_schmoe: everyone parrots that shit, "rape isnt about sex". whatever, maybe so, but I'm gonna go out on a limb and suggest that if you cut a pedophile's balls off, he wont be raping any more kids."

This would work for some pedophiles.

Some would just use other means to rape children.


("Rape isn't about sex" isn't a justification used to avoid castration. It's a justification for offing the pedophiles/rapists.)

[Edited on March 26, 2007 at 1:36 AM. Reason : sss]

3/26/2007 1:33:40 AM

I thought the justification was giving the victims and future victims peace of mind etc...

3/26/2007 2:49:28 AM

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"Some would just use other means to rape children. "

o rly? and where in the literature is this borne out?

3/26/2007 2:59:38 AM

^^That could be another justification for offing pedophiles.

^Don't act like I'm stupid or some shit.

If sex/pedophilia/absolutely everything is in the brain, then pragmatically testicle removal wouldn't work for everybody.

Would it work for most everybody?

I dunno. I suppose you wanna see the literature for that. Personally, I'll pass on taking a look at it.

Sorry to bust up your "brilliant" castration scheme that plenty of folks have thought of at one point.

[Edited on March 26, 2007 at 3:11 AM. Reason : to the both of you]

3/26/2007 3:01:08 AM

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"Sorry to bust up your "brilliant" castration scheme that plenty of folks have thought of at one point"

hey fuck it, then. i was just offering castration in an attempt to be fair.

i'll go back to my original plan of immediate execution.

how you like them apples, huh?

HUH????







[Edited on March 26, 2007 at 3:14 AM. Reason : now where do i go to change the laws, anyhow?]

3/26/2007 3:11:45 AM

Are you drunk?

3/26/2007 3:14:54 AM

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"If sex/pedophilia/absolutely everything is in the brain, then pragmatically testicle removal wouldn't work for everybody."

Testicles are involved in the production of sex-related hormones... thus, cutting off the testicles would result in a disruption of those chemicals, which would, in turn, affect the brain...

3/26/2007 8:17:56 AM

has the soapbox become "post a story about a gruesome murder"?

3/26/2007 9:18:05 AM

animals

3/26/2007 11:05:09 AM

yes this is horrible, but i dont really understand what the intended debate is

3/26/2007 11:15:18 AM

if you kill these 3 so fast by shooting them between the eyes it takes away all their pain and suffering to come. thats dumb.

[Edited on March 26, 2007 at 11:30 AM. Reason : fda]

3/26/2007 11:30:32 AM

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"timswar: Testicles are involved in the production of sex-related hormones... thus, cutting off the testicles would result in a disruption of those chemicals, which would, in turn, affect the brain..."

I'm sure it would.

But do you think it would stop every pedophile from sexually abusing children?

3/26/2007 2:57:16 PM

i doubt it...but if it stopped half of them would it be worth it?

3/26/2007 3:02:30 PM

^ i've been castrating my criminals in nationstates for months now

3/26/2007 3:02:45 PM

^^I dunno.

I'd rather just lock em up and forget about em.

3/26/2007 3:42:26 PM

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"From : ssjamind To : salisburyboy Received : Monday March 26, 2007 at 3:45 PM Subject : have you seen this thread? http://www.brentroad.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=468039 just wanted to make sure you were aware. "

3/26/2007 3:46:07 PM

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" I'd rather just lock em up and forget about em."

like life in prison?? no questions asked?

3/26/2007 3:54:32 PM

^Yup.

I hope advances in mental health/science are made so that these people can't get some relief.

As it is, there's just no place for them. And we need to send the message that if you have these feelings, these tendencies, you better not act on them. You live your life in agony trying to be normal, or you spend it in prison. Absolutely no questions asked.

3/27/2007 1:23:25 AM

3/27/2007 10:46:48 AM

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"Padre, there are subtleties! We are not concerned with motives, with the higher ethics. We are concerned only with cutting down crime and with relieving the ghastly congestion in our prisons. He will be your true Christian, ready to turn the other cheek, ready to be crucified rather than crucify, sick to the heart at the thought of killing a fly. Reclamation! Joy before the angels of God! The point is that it works."

3/27/2007 10:49:56 AM

i'd have no problem with them being killed

unfortunately, it costs more to put a bullet in somebody's head than it does to feed, clothe and house them for 50 years...explain that one

3/27/2007 10:52:32 AM

^ It's funny that you mention that. On a one to one basis the numbers aren't quite so straightforward. Especially if you take into account the percentages of people put on death row compared to those given life in prison.

The up front costs of a death penalty case are much higher, but have you actually looked at numbers to support your stance?

3/27/2007 11:01:34 AM

no i havent looked at the specifics...it just doesnt make sense that providing the necessities of life for someone for dozens of years is supposedly cheaper than executing someone...now granted when someone is sentenced to death its usually a couple years or more down the road, so they are paying for them to be in prison for some time

3/27/2007 11:07:03 AM

One such set of numbers:

Cost of life without Parole
$34,200 / yr x 50 yrs @ 2% inflation
$75,000 total for trial & appeals

$3,010,000.00

Cost of Death penalty Cases
$60,000 / yr x 6 yrs @ 2% inflation
$1,500,000 total for trial & appeals

$1,800,000300

[Edited on March 27, 2007 at 11:14 AM. Reason : decimals.]

3/27/2007 11:13:48 AM