most democrats on this board hate the way our country runs and even the way our country is setup (the constitution)

and the republicans are the ones that respect and defend the constitution...


why are the democrats so dour?

3/27/2007 3:30:46 PM

3/27/2007 3:31:26 PM

no seriously... this is a clear trend in the media and on this board

3/27/2007 3:31:43 PM

ibtLiberals

3/27/2007 3:31:58 PM

CEREALY GUYS

3/27/2007 3:32:39 PM

Democrats and Republicans? I thought it was those damn Independents that hated America!

[Edited on March 27, 2007 at 3:32 PM. Reason : capitalize]

3/27/2007 3:32:45 PM

I would like a list dems and repubs as you see them.

3/27/2007 3:33:02 PM

scuba steve - democrat

3/27/2007 3:34:00 PM

dems: eat granola, play drums, smoke weed, protest about wars and oil, eat acid, shrooms
reps: listen to country music, drink budweiser, watch nascar, incest, talk funny

3/27/2007 3:34:26 PM

i thought you werent a democrat?

3/27/2007 3:35:13 PM

well i like to eat acid and listen to country, what does that make me

3/27/2007 3:35:51 PM

stupid?

3/27/2007 3:36:15 PM

THIS IS A GREAT THREAD


















































































FOR ME TO SHIT ON

















































IM CEREOUS

3/27/2007 3:36:30 PM

takes one to know one

3/27/2007 3:36:47 PM

it takes a stupid to know a stupid?

NICE

3/27/2007 3:37:50 PM

oh well I thought we could have a rational discussion about the way in which parties behave and the reasons behind them.

But I guess we can't.

3/27/2007 3:38:27 PM

as i see it, the two party system itself (dems and repubs) is one of the major reasons our gov has always had a certain negative stigma surrounding it.

[Edited on March 27, 2007 at 3:41 PM. Reason : .]

3/27/2007 3:40:36 PM

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"the way in which parties behave and the reasons behind them."

it has nothing to do with that.

you started this thread with a dumb shit sweeping generalization.

Why don't we have a rationale discussion about dumbass n00bs pigeonholing people and the reasons behind them?

3/27/2007 3:41:52 PM

^ I second this! Who knows my motives?

3/27/2007 3:42:33 PM

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"it takes a stupid to know a stupid?"

thats correct

i'm lowering myself down to your argument level so you'll get it

3/27/2007 3:45:10 PM

it is not a generalization.


Look at congress. It is the republicans who say we can win the war and the democrats who say we cannot.


Some things CAN be generalized even though you don't like that. Stereotypes are, at times, valid.


If you can't handle this discussion, I'm sorry.



And I'm not a noob. I'm an alias.

3/27/2007 3:46:36 PM

omg! democrats don't like the way a partisan republican runs the country! stop the presses!

3/27/2007 3:50:29 PM

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"Look at congress. It is the republicans who say we can win the war and the democrats who say we cannot"

that's the problem, it all breaks down into dems want x and repubs want y. there is more focus on conforming with your party than speaking out.

3/27/2007 3:50:42 PM

and also doing whats in the best interest of their biggest monetary contributors

3/27/2007 3:51:36 PM

So when the republicans are in favor of things like checking up on our phone conversations, defining marriage between a man and a woman, not teaching evolution because it's not in the Bible, and other such things this is because they have so much respect for the Constitution?

3/27/2007 3:51:49 PM

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"defining marriage between a man and a woman"

so its the republicans spending all their time and effort trying to make gay marriage illegal?

i thought it was the democrats spending all their time and effort trying to make gay marriage legal?

considering its illegal in most states, why would the republicans need to do anything

3/27/2007 3:56:51 PM

every year or two there's a silly push to get an ammendment to constitutions (state or federal) to define marriage between a man and a woman.

3/27/2007 3:58:01 PM

it's not a question of what already is and is not a law, it's a question of which is the more constitutional side to the issue

3/27/2007 3:58:16 PM

I HOPE THAT TROLL BAIT TASTES GOOD

BECAUSE A BIG LOAD OF IT WAS JUST SHIT

IN THE FORM OF THIS THREAD

3/27/2007 3:58:38 PM

^^i think its a relatively meaningless issue

can gays technically get married or do they just have to live together?

PUSH ALL THE OTHER BILLS TO THE SIDE, THIS ONE IS IMPORTANT

3/27/2007 3:59:42 PM

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"Look at congress. It is the republicans who say we can win the war and the democrats who say we cannot."

1) This thread is about TWW, not congress. Congressional partisan politics are fundamentally different than personal politics.
2) Are you saying that there are no republicans in congress who oppose the war?

3/27/2007 4:00:10 PM

State409c ruins another thread

3/27/2007 4:07:07 PM

What a fantastic thread!


Progressive taxation
Social welfare
Regulation of industry
Consumer protection
Affirmative action
Centralized government
Public education

Why do Republicans hate how our government runs?

3/27/2007 4:09:53 PM

I can't really blame him. This thread was dead before it started. The premise is total garbage.

3/27/2007 4:12:12 PM

especially after troller46an3 posted

3/27/2007 4:13:17 PM

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[Edited on March 27, 2007 at 4:21 PM. Reason : I'm an idiot.]

3/27/2007 4:14:34 PM

you mean he said "stupid"?

3/27/2007 4:19:30 PM

If you'd said you dropped acid and listen to Tool you might be okay... But you really dropped the ball there

3/27/2007 4:22:01 PM

i actually dont eat acid or listen to country music

but being that it was troller46an3 theres no point in being serious since he never is

3/27/2007 4:26:37 PM

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"ibtLiberals"

3/27/2007 7:24:46 PM

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"and the republicans are the ones that respect and defend the constitution..."

what alternate universe is this?

3/27/2007 9:03:12 PM

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"most democrats on this board hate the way our country runs and even the way our country is setup (the constitution) and the republicans are the ones that respect and defend the constitution..."

Hate to break it to you, but both parties have people that want to break the constitution. It's all about personal gain.

For example(This is not comprehensive nor fully representative. Plz not to start flame war. I am not a fan of sweeping generalizations, but these are majority party alignments on issues from my perspective)

Dem's - Will stick up for 1st amendment rights and personal privacy to no end, but the 2nd amendment might as well be nonexistent. This appeals to social progressives and overprotective-mother types.

Repub's - Will fight all day for the above stated 2nd amendment, but would jump at the chance to enact blatantly anti-constitutional, personally invasive and suppressive laws like the "Patriot Act". This appeals to social conservatives and self-sufficient/higher-income types.

No, there is corruption ALL across the board, across ALL party lines. Money and greed fuel this machine, and politicians will say and do anything for a buck.

Feel free to correct me on any of this, as it was a rather hastily thrown together "cliff notes" of my opinions on this topic.

[Edited on March 28, 2007 at 12:37 AM. Reason : t]

3/28/2007 12:36:23 AM

Are these supposed to be good things?

Progressive taxation - Wealth transfer, theft of labor.

Regulation of industry- If regulators couldn't prevent the Savings & Loans scandals, why do we think they could shield us from other cases of fraud or incompetence? Remember it was the US Dept of Agriculture who ordered some of the exit doors locked from the outside which caused the deaths of 25 people in that NC chicken-plant fire in 1991.

Consumer protection- The FDA's tardy approval of propranolol, the first beta blocker for heart disease, needlessly killed an estimated 30,000 Americans during the three years it was available in Europe. Some protection.

Affirmative action- Quotas, reverse discrimmination. Equality before the law?

Centralized government - Statism, runaway spending, Oppression of individual liberty.
Public education - Gov't indoctrination. Warehousing of children. Teacher unions.

3/28/2007 10:02:00 PM

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"Dem's - Will stick up for 1st amendment rights and personal privacy to no end, but the 2nd amendment might as well be nonexistent. This appeals to social progressives and overprotective-mother types. Repub's - Will fight all day for the above stated 2nd amendment, but would jump at the chance to enact blatantly anti-constitutional, personally invasive and suppressive laws like the "Patriot Act". This appeals to social conservatives and self-sufficient/higher-income types."

Odd point though: Republican appointed Judges to the Supreme Court tend to be the best defenders of all the rights you've listed.

Go ahead and check which judges dissented from upholding Mccain Feingold which in effect made it illegal to criticise the government: Justice Scalia, Justice Thomas, and Justice Rehnquist. Every single one was nominated by a conservative president.

So, sure, Democrats may claim they love the 1st Amendment, but when it comes to putting people that feel the Government's powers should be limited anywhere they do very poorly compared to their brethren.

3/28/2007 11:16:09 PM

hooray for one example!!!!

3/28/2007 11:38:03 PM

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"which in effect made it illegal to criticise the government"

oh wow. thats just pathetic.

I will grant you that conservative justices on the supreme court have largely taken good positions on first amendment issues, but scalia is also the reason that religious intolerance is pretty much allowed.

[Edited on March 28, 2007 at 11:39 PM. Reason : ^an example he is wrong about]

3/28/2007 11:39:07 PM

(yeah it was sarcasm -- and campaign finance reform != limiting any criticism of gov't)

3/28/2007 11:44:13 PM

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"[the] Mccain Feingold [Act] ... made it illegal to criticise the government"

youre a fucking dipshit.

3/29/2007 1:29:50 AM

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"oh well I thought we could have a rational discussion about the way in which parties behave and the reasons behind them."

So you started the thread out with one of the most obvious troll baits I've ever seen in TSB.

3/29/2007 7:11:28 AM

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"Are these supposed to be good things?"

I don't think that was the point. The point was that both parties don't like the way the country is run, at least in part. And you've proven that point right away by criticizing things our government already does...

3/29/2007 7:43:57 AM