panthersny All American 9550 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Dear Speaker Pelosi:
We are writing to urge you to call the House back into session immediately so that Congress can finish its work on the emergency legislation to fund the Global War on Terrorism. This funding request has been pending since February 5, but your leadership team chose to leave town for more than two weeks rather than completing this bill. As a result, our troops have been put at risk.
We are especially troubled by the House's failure to appoint conferees. The Senate appointed conferees on March 29, moments after passing its bill, but the House never did so despite passing the bill a week earlier. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid told the Senate that he hoped the House-Senate conference would begin on March 30. That hoped-for progress has been thwarted by your failure to act.
It should go without saying that our military leaders are in the best position to know the needs of our troops, and they have left no doubt that this funding is needed urgently. General Peter Schoomaker, United States Army Chief of Staff, has written that, "without approval of the supplemental funds in April, we will be forced to take increasingly draconian measures which will impact Army readiness and impose hardships on our Soldiers and their families." Secretary of Defense Robert Gates has also emphasized the dangers of delay: "This kind of disruption to key programs will have a genuinely adverse effect on the readiness of the Army and the quality of life for soldiers and their families."
Our troops need this funding, and they need it soon. The Senate is in session and ready to work. We respectfully request that you cancel the remainder of your break, call the House back into session, appoint conferees promptly, and work in good faith to pass a clean supplemental funding bill that the President can sign as soon as possible. Every day we don't fund our troops is a day their ability to fight this war is weakened. " |
So does this make the repubs look better????
I am just sick of all this crap and want it over already4/9/2007 6:05:46 PM |
Wlfpk4Life All American 5613 Posts user info edit post |
She should be jewelry shopping and kissing despot's asses on her own time. 4/9/2007 6:07:13 PM |
e30ncsu Suspended 1879 Posts user info edit post |
4/9/2007 6:17:45 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
war's been going on for what, four years now?
what's the sudden rush of urgency?
we leavin' anytime soon? 4/9/2007 6:27:42 PM |
trikk311 All American 2793 Posts user info edit post |
^nope...but alot of troops are going to die if they dont get some funds...
is that urgent?? 4/9/2007 6:45:58 PM |
Wlfpk4Life All American 5613 Posts user info edit post |
Not for democrats. 4/9/2007 6:47:30 PM |
e30ncsu Suspended 1879 Posts user info edit post |
a lot of troops will die if we keep them in the middle of a civil war 4/9/2007 7:52:14 PM |
Boone All American 5237 Posts user info edit post |
THE FUNDING IS GOING TO RUN OUT
Whatever... there are how many months until funding "runs out"?
And btw, who wrote this? Google's not showing anything. 4/9/2007 7:59:46 PM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
4/9/2007 8:04:03 PM |
Boone All American 5237 Posts user info edit post |
Almost as old and decrepit as hooksaw 4/9/2007 8:06:11 PM |
Kay_Yow All American 6858 Posts user info edit post |
Weren't these the same guys complaining when the Majority Leader wanted to institute a 5-day work week? Now they want to come back early from Spring Break? 4/9/2007 8:34:44 PM |
BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
http://homophobelol.ytmnd.com/ 4/9/2007 8:39:40 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
WON'T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE CHILDREN TROOPS?!!! 4/9/2007 9:11:27 PM |
RevoltNow All American 2640 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "According to a Congressional Research Service memo dated March 28 and sent to the Senate Budget Committee, "The Army could finance the O&M (operations and maintenance) of both its baseline and war program ... through most of July 2007" by shifting around money in existing accounts." |
And under a Republican controlled Congress:
Quote : | "February 14, 2005: Bush submits $82 billion supplemental bill May 11, 2005: Bush signs the supplemental Total time elapsed: 86 days
February 16, 2006: Bush submits $72 billion supplemental bill June 15, 2006: Bush signs the supplemental Total time elapsed: 119 days" |
We are currently at under 67 days4/9/2007 9:57:19 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
you'd almost think the president wasn't negotiating with the congress for a compromise or something. 4/9/2007 10:05:36 PM |
Supplanter supple anteater 21831 Posts user info edit post |
You could mention the cost of war upfront, instead of pretending like it doesn't exist to make it easier to sell again and again. Then later funding it through "emergency funding" as if it was a surprise that war was expensive still this many years in. Then turn down any funding that not requires, but just non bindingly suggests an eventual end to the war being set.
Its not the democrats not funding our troops. Its not even the republicans not funding our troops. Its this white house setting conditions such that our troops wont be funded unless it pushes their agenda and that makes everyone look bad, themselves & congress included. 4/9/2007 10:20:22 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
4/9/2007 10:37:26 PM |
RevoltNow All American 2640 Posts user info edit post |
if you treat the war as non emergency funding then you cant say you are lowering the deficit 4/9/2007 10:38:15 PM |
billyboy All American 3174 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "war's been going on for what, four years now?
what's the sudden rush of urgency?
we leavin' anytime soon?" |
Yeah, that urgency wasn't quite there in the whopping 90 days that the Republican controlled Congress was in session last year.4/9/2007 10:39:10 PM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
I'll bet that I look better than you, Boone. When was the last time you were laid? Be honest.
And about Pelosi, I just post that picture because I think it's funny--it actually looks like it has been manipulated. I mean, Pelosi doesn't look half bad for her age--if she didn't have the weird facial ticks. 4/9/2007 11:02:02 PM |
pwrstrkdf250 Suspended 60006 Posts user info edit post |
yaaaaaaaaaaaaay lets pass on something thats full of bullshit and blame the president for not signing it instead of pushing something through thats to the point
fucking politics 4/9/2007 11:54:40 PM |
Boone All American 5237 Posts user info edit post |
yaaaaaaaaaaaaay lets pass on submit something thats full of bullshit and blame the president Congress for not signing submitting it instead of pushing something through thats to the point 4/10/2007 12:10:21 AM |
RevoltNow All American 2640 Posts user info edit post |
by bullshit do you mean a date for leaving? 4/10/2007 8:21:44 AM |
trikk311 All American 2793 Posts user info edit post |
he probably means the countless millions and millions of dollars given to stupid stupid projects that was used to bribe senators into voting for it...
...and maybe a date for leaving.. 4/10/2007 8:24:06 AM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
maybe the president should learn something from the past 6 years and work for a compromise with someone he disagrees with. 4/10/2007 8:25:37 AM |
trikk311 All American 2793 Posts user info edit post |
maybe....
maybe congress should cut the crap and fund the troops?? 4/10/2007 8:30:57 AM |
Patman All American 5873 Posts user info edit post |
Congress has already passed a troop funding bill. All the President has to do is sign it. Why isn't he supporting the troops? 4/10/2007 8:38:37 AM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I'll bet that I look better than you, Boone. When was the last time you were laid? Be honest." |
[Edited on April 10, 2007 at 8:42 AM. Reason : yeah because ugly people don't get laid]4/10/2007 8:40:37 AM |
SkankinMonky All American 3344 Posts user info edit post |
The congress should be a voice for the people. The American people overwhelmingly want our troops out of Iraq. They also want a deadline for pulling out reasonably. The president is representing neither of these wishes and the congress is at least attempting to do this.
Democrats are far from perfect, and I think the pork they put in the bill is retarded beyond all counts, but I realize that some assholes won't vote for things despite it's what the country wants unless they're handed some cash. 4/10/2007 8:43:57 AM |
Flyin Ryan All American 8224 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^nope...but alot of troops are going to die if they dont get some funds...
is that urgent??" |
If troops stopped getting paid, a lot of them would walk off the job.
We know that's not happening, so regardless of whatever funding is or is not approved, the troops will get paid. Other parts of the government are going to lose money, and I don't find that so bad.
A troop stands just as good a chance of getting killed with or without the House in session. This is just posturing by Republicans to make Democrats look bad in the public eye and they are using the troops for political purposes.
(Note: Democrats are no better to me. I'm just making a couple points.)4/10/2007 9:04:16 AM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "It should go without saying that our military leaders are in the best position to know the needs of our troops" |
That's rich coming from the GOP, who decided their leaders didn't know what they were talking about when they ignored their assertions of just how difficult the war would be........4 years later.......4/10/2007 10:13:45 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "sounds like they care more about going on vacation than stopping the war" |
4/10/2007 10:18:19 AM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
seems like none of this would be a problem if Bush did what a majority of the american public wants 4/10/2007 10:30:34 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
^seems to me like the majority of america had their say during the last presidential election, since thats how our country works 4/10/2007 10:32:38 AM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
oh my bad i didnt know the house left session last time the president was voted in 4/10/2007 10:35:36 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
what does the house leaving session have to do with "what a majority of the american public wants" the President to do?] 4/10/2007 10:37:13 AM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
idk, i guess i'm stumped
why does bush not support our troops with threats of vetos? 4/10/2007 10:44:57 AM |
Patman All American 5873 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "seems to me like the majority of america had their say during the last presidential election, since thats how our country works" |
A narrow majority who has since changed their minds.4/10/2007 10:57:18 AM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
i would have used that argument but i didnt think treetwista would have believed me or something 4/10/2007 11:19:11 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
thats still how the country works
can you imagine how much more inefficient the govt would be if each member of the public was consulted about every decision thats up to the president and congress?
i would say roughly 500,000x to 600,000x more inefficient
thats why the public gets to vote on who will be President for the next 4 years so that hopefully someone with your own particular ideals and beliefs will be elected, hopefully so that that President will have similar ideas to yourself
So people won't bitch about every little thing...because they already had their vote...since thats how our country works] 4/10/2007 11:19:29 AM |
pwrstrkdf250 Suspended 60006 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "he probably means the countless millions and millions of dollars given to stupid stupid projects that was used to bribe senators into voting for it..." |
4/10/2007 11:35:42 AM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
maybe if bush had put this in the ACTUAL budget and not some emergency fund that they knew ahead of time they would need. 4/10/2007 11:36:52 AM |
RevoltNow All American 2640 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Congress has already passed a troop funding bill. All the President has to do is sign it. Why isn't he supporting the troops?" |
Quote : | "maybe if bush had put this in the ACTUAL budget and not some emergency fund that they knew ahead of time they would need." |
4/10/2007 11:41:27 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "millions and millions of dollars given to stupid stupid projects that was used to bribe senators into voting for it" |
4/10/2007 11:42:28 AM |
RevoltNow All American 2640 Posts user info edit post |
the president doesnt have a problem with the spending. i have yet to see a single quote from him complaining about anything other than the pullout date.
Why is the President threatening the lives of our troops?
[Edited on April 10, 2007 at 11:47 AM. Reason : yet] 4/10/2007 11:47:42 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
revtrolltnow 4/10/2007 11:48:35 AM |
RevoltNow All American 2640 Posts user info edit post |
show me a quote 4/10/2007 11:49:14 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Why is the President threatening the lives of our troops?" |
4/10/2007 11:49:30 AM |
RevoltNow All American 2640 Posts user info edit post |
i take it back. you are an idiot 4/10/2007 11:49:49 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
ok troll 4/10/2007 11:50:04 AM |