I've been going to a local spa for several years now - usually for massages, facials and occasionally nails. Don't get my nails done very often because while I like the way they look when done, I just don't like spending a ton of time on them. This spa has services that they advertise as "Just for Him Hands & Feet", which take half the time as the ones for the ladies. The spa used to let me book these services, but now they say only men can book them. I don't want nail polish, paraffin, gold dust, etc - just the basics. I've written the owner but no response.

Is this discrimination? I can't imagine they have services that are just for women or just for white people, why do they have them just for men?

4/27/2007 8:20:36 PM

It is a private business they can do what they like.

Never come across/heard of for women only gyms, spas, etc?

P.S. You can be pissed all you like. Is that something you let other people decide?


[Edited on April 27, 2007 at 8:23 PM. Reason : ]

4/27/2007 8:22:28 PM

/thread

4/27/2007 8:22:53 PM

I don't let other people decide but it's sometimes nice to see whether other people think I'm being reasonable.

4/27/2007 8:24:17 PM

Quote :

"Is this discrimination?"

no, but you know what is? "ladies night" where ladies get in free or at a lower cover charge at bars/clubs.

4/27/2007 8:29:35 PM

^so, are you more likely to go to clubs where you know there will be more women because they got in for halfprice? and are you more likely to score 'cause they're drinking more?

4/27/2007 8:36:22 PM

no, and i wont speak for golovko but i consider clubbing broads to be sluts

i meet bitches in my classes at ncsu

4/27/2007 8:39:53 PM

call 5 on your side.

4/27/2007 8:43:51 PM

not like [clubbing broads] and [broads in classes] are disjoint sets.

broads who attend class go clubbing as well, and vice versa.

4/27/2007 8:44:07 PM

I never said they were mutually exclusive

its not hard to tell a clubbing slutty type broad from a decent broad in one of your classes

4/27/2007 8:51:19 PM

bars have been successfully sued over ladies night for discrimination

4/27/2007 9:03:01 PM

AHA, drunknloaded is rebelling against his whore mother by calling chicks sluts.

4/27/2007 9:57:35 PM

lol, how do you get that?

4/27/2007 9:59:06 PM

Curves is a womens' only gym

(learned that from South Park)

4/27/2007 10:08:18 PM

^^You dwell on the slut issue way too much. Like a serial killer with a bitch whore mother.

4/27/2007 10:09:09 PM

^The funny thing is you don't even know his mother, but you will call her a whore. She might be a pretty cool gal. of course, now she is a dirty little whore. hmmmmm.

Maybe he got a hold of his dad's girly mags at a young age. What do you think drunk? Why are you disrespecting women?

4/28/2007 12:10:20 AM

^Don't know what you're getting at.

I'm making silly observations about men who are obessed with "sluts" and identifying "sluts" and making sure they never befriend or date "sluts."

On the other tip, guess what you can do...

BITE ME.

4/28/2007 12:43:57 AM

why do you care if he chooses to disrespect people that have a character trait he hates

Quote :

"I'm making silly observations about men who are obessed with "sluts" and identifying "sluts" and making sure they never befriend or date "sluts.""

substitute "sluts" for say "creeps" and you have an attitude many women share and is perfectly accceptable

4/28/2007 10:58:55 AM

yo al...you see how fucking wierd most of these wolfwebbers are?

i'm here on a daily basis...i guess i'm immune now

4/28/2007 11:01:52 AM

^ hell of a good call

4/28/2007 11:02:26 AM

its interesting but on the subject of you being immune you need to cut this thing off. if you get to 100k posts it may be time for an intervention

4/28/2007 11:07:32 AM

I should just post in study hall and classifieds...i dont get what it is in my brain that makes me want to reply to like everything

4/28/2007 11:12:18 AM

Quote :

"AHA, drunknloaded is rebelling against his whore mother by calling chicks sluts."

Wow, are you like 12 years old? I can make your mom jokes too. You mom is fat. see?

Quote :

"Is this discrimination? I can't imagine they have services that are just for women or just for white people, why do they have them just for men?"

yes, it is obviously RACIST and you need to call WRAL now or else the world will never be rid of this injustice.

4/28/2007 1:39:49 PM

Quote :

"^Don't know what you're getting at."

I'm just suggesting that you are an angry person that’s all. You resort to name calling with little to no provocation. Perhaps you might benefit from some anger management classes.

http://www.angermanagementseminar.com/states/NorthCarolina.html

As far as the BITE ME comment, No thank you, I bet you taste bad.

4/28/2007 1:40:17 PM

I'll bite.

4/28/2007 1:40:43 PM

Quote :

"I can't imagine they have services that are just for women"

Agnes Scott College
141 East College Avenue
Decatur, GA 30030
(404) 471-6000
http://www.agnesscott.edu Alverno College
3400 S. 43rd Street
Milwaukee, WI 53219
(414) 382-6064
http://www.alverno.edu
Barnard College
3009 Broadway
New York, NY 10027-6598
(212) 854-5262
http://www.barnard.edu Bay Path College
588 Longmeadow Street
Longmeadow, MA 01106
(413) 565-1000
http://www.baypath.edu
Bennett College for Women
900 East Washington Street
Greensboro, NC 27401-3239
(336) 273-4431
http://www.bennett.edu Brenau University
One Centennial Circle
Gainesville, GA 30501
(770) 534-6299
http://www.brenau.edu
Brescia University College
1285 Western Road
London, Ontario, Canada
N6G 1H2
(519) 432-8353
http://www.brescia.uwo.ca Bryn Mawr College
101 North Merion Avenue
Bryn Mawr, PA 19010-2899
(610) 526-5000
http://www.brynmawr.edu
Carlow University
3333 Fifth Avenue
Pittsburgh, PA 15213
(412) 578-6000
http://www.carlow.edu Cedar Crest College
100 College Drive
Allentown, PA 18104-6196
(610) 437-4471
http://www.cedarcrest.edu
Chatham College
Woodland Road
Pittsburgh, PA 15232
(412) 365-1100
http://www.chatham.edu The College of New Rochelle
29 Castle Place
New Rochelle, NY 10805
(914) 654-5000
http://www.cnr.edu
College of Notre Dame of Maryland
4701 North Charles Street
Baltimore, MD 21210
(410) 435-0100
http://www.ndm.edu College of Saint Benedict
37 South College Avenue
St. Joseph, MN 56374
(320) 363-5011
http://www.csbsju.edu
College of Saint Catherine
2004 Randolph Avenue
St. Paul, MN 55105
(651) 690-6000
http://www.stkate.edu College of Saint Elizabeth
2 Convent Road
Morristown, NJ 07960
(973) 290-4000
http://www.cse.edu
College of Saint Mary
1901 South 72nd Street
Omaha, NE 68124
(402) 399-2400
http://www.csm.edu Columbia College
1301 Columbia College Drive
Columbia, SC 29203
(803) 786-3012
http://www.columbiacollegesc.edu
Converse College
580 East Main Street
Spartanburg, SC 29302-0006
(864) 596-9000
http://www.converse.edu Cottey College
1000 West Austin
Nevada, MO 64772
(417) 667-8181
http://www.cottey.edu
Douglass College of Rutgers University
Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey
125 George Street
New Brunswick, NJ 08901-1414
(732) 932-9721
http://www.douglass.rutgers.edu Georgian Court University
900 Lakewood Avenue
Lakewood, NJ 08701
(732) 364-2200
http://www.georgian.edu
Hollins University
P.O. Box 9707
Roanoke, VA 24020-1707
(800) 456-9595
http://www.hollins.edu Judson College
P.O. Box 120
Marion, AL 36756
(334) 683-5100
http://www.judson.edu
Mary Baldwin College
Staunton, VA 24401
(540) 887-7019
http://www.mbc.edu Meredith College
3800 Hillsborough Street
Raleigh, NC 27607-5298
(919) 760-8600
http://www.meredith.edu
Midway College
512 East Stephens Street
Midway, KY 40347-1120
(859) 846-4421
http://www.midway.edu Mills College
5000 MacArthur Boulevard
Oakland, CA 94613
(510) 430-2255
http://www.mills.edu
Moore College of Art and Design
20th Street and The Parkway
Philadelphia, PA 19103-1179
(215) 965-4000
http://www.moore.edu Mount Holyoke College
50 College Street
South Hadley, MA 01075
(413) 538-2000
http://www.mtholyoke.edu
Mount Mary College
2900 North Menomonee River Parkway
Milwaukee, WI 53222-4597
(414) 258-4810
http://www.mtmary.edu Mount St. Mary's College
12001 Chalon Road
Los Angeles, CA 90049
(310) 954-4000
http://www.msmc.la.edu
Newcomb College Institute
43 Newcomb Place
New Orleans, LA 70118
(504) 865-5422
toll free: 1-800-327-0009
http://www.newcomb.tulane.edu Peace College
15 East Peace Street
Raleigh, NC 27604-1149
(800) PEACE-47
http://www.peace.edu
Pine Manor College
400 Heath Street
Chestnut Hill, MA 02467
(617) 731-7000
http://www.pmc.edu Randolph-Macon Woman's College
2500 Rivermont Avenue
Lynchburg, VA 24503
(434) 947-8000
http://www.rmwc.edu
Regis College
235 Wellesley Street
Weston, MA 02493-1571
(781) 768-7000
http://www.regiscollege.edu Rosemont College
1400 Montgomery Avenue
Rosemont, PA 19010-1699
(610) 527-0200
http://www.rosemont.edu
Russell Sage College of The Sage Colleges
45 Ferry Street
Troy, NY 12180
(518) 244-2000
http://www.sage.edu Saint Joseph College
1678 Asylum Avenue
West Hartford, CT 06117
(860) 232-4571
http://www.sjc.edu
Saint Mary-of-the-Woods College
Saint Mary-of-the-Woods, IN 47876
(812) 535-5151
http://www.smwc.edu Saint Mary's College
Notre Dame, IN 46556
(574) 284-4000
http://www.saintmarys.edu
Salem College
PO Box 10548
Winston-Salem, NC 27108
(336) 721-2600
http://www.salem.edu Scripps College
1030 Columbia Avenue
Claremont, CA 91711-3948
(909) 621-8000
http://www.scrippscollege.edu
Simmons College
300 The Fenway
Boston, MA 02115-5898
(617) 521-2000
http://www.simmons.edu Smith College
College Hall
Northampton, MA 01063
(413) 584-2700
http://www.smith.edu
Spelman College
350 Spelman Lane
Atlanta, GA 30314
(404) 681-3643
http://www.spelman.edu Stephens College
1200 E. Broadway
Columbia, MO 65215
(573) 442-2211
http://www.stephens.edu
Sweet Briar College
P.O. Box B
Sweet Briar, VA 24595
(434) 381-6100
http://www.sbc.edu Texas Woman's University
P.O. Box 425587
Denton, TX 76204-5587
(940) 898-2000
http://www.twu.edu
Trinity (Washington) University
125 Michigan Avenue, N.E.
Washington, DC 20017-1094
(202) 884-9000
http://www.trinitydc.edu Ursuline College
2550 Lander Road
Pepper Pike, OH 44124
(440) 449-4200
http://www.ursuline.edu
Wellesley College
106 Central Street
Wellesley, MA 02481
(781) 283-1000
http://www.wellesley.edu Wells College
170 Main Street
Aurora, NY 13026
(315) 364-3416
http://www.wells.edu
Wesleyan College
4760 Forsyth Road
Macon, GA 31210-4462
(478) 477-1110
http://www.wesleyancollege.edu Wilson College
1015 Philadelphia Avenue
Chambersburg, PA 17201
(717) 264-4141
http://www.wilson.edu
The Women's College of the University of Denver
2199 South University Blvd.
Mary Reed Building
Denver, CO 80208
(303) 871-6500
http://www.womenscollege.du.edu

4/28/2007 2:06:35 PM

there is a gym called curves also...its just for women- supposedly women get all touchy by guys seeing them work out so they work out at an all girls gym so they dont have to worry about dudes looking at them

4/28/2007 2:11:26 PM

^^ What if the college allowed women to attend but only made certain options available to men?

Quote :

"This spa has services that they advertise as "Just for Him Hands & Feet", which take half the time as the ones for the ladies."

4/28/2007 3:16:18 PM

Quote :

"s this discrimination? I can't imagine they have services that are just for women or just for white people, why do they have them just for men?"

Think there is a difference. Discrimination, with regards to civil liberties, has a purpose refusing service because of race,culture,etc...
Where this has a purpose of attracting men to a salon. They refuse the service not because you are a woman. They refuse it because women do not apply to the purpose of the sale.

4/28/2007 3:33:28 PM

seems to me they are basically trying to attract male clientele who not otherwise show up, so they offer a stripped version. it doesn't seem great if you're a woman and want the same thing, but they know that they already HAVE you. women are coming regardless, so they don't have to accomodate, but without a deal like this, men wouldn't show up.

4/28/2007 6:17:44 PM

if they dont want your business just find somewhere else...

4/28/2007 6:27:30 PM

I would ask them if they can't individually price things so you get a similar package. It does seem pretty gay... I'm almost like a guy when it comes to my nails...get it done, no frills, get me out of there, I'd take umbrage to it as well.
Is the women's package more expensive? If its not, get it and just tell them you dont want all the extras... If they wont accommodate you I'd speak to a manager or just tell them that you're not happy with that, you're going to another spa.

btw, why not just go to a nail salon? cheaper and quick...

4/28/2007 9:38:38 PM

Oh, yes, the women's package is more expensive. The funny thing is that if they accommodate my request, they will make more in the same hour than if they don't because I'll have two services instead of one. And I have over $300 in gift cards from here and would like to use them. It's just the whole principle of the thing that gets me - I don't patronize dry cleaners that charge more for women's shirts, why should I change for this spa?

But if anyone has recommendations for a clean nail salon I'd love to hear them.

4/29/2007 7:22:48 AM

jesus, just shut up and go somewhere else, or stop complaining. This shit is very common. Have you ever gone to a barber/salon? Women's haircuts are always more expensive than men's cuts. There is not discrimination, and the "principle" behind this is very simple. They're not trying to screw you, they're just making packages that are tailored towards different people most likely based on lots of data they've gathered over the years as to what services men and women generally like.

4/29/2007 8:06:50 AM

^Kind of like how the men's massage comes with the happy ending special if you tip well.

4/29/2007 9:38:34 AM

lol, I had a female masseuse offer me the happy ending once. too naive to know what the high percentage of men getting 'haircuts' meant.

4/29/2007 10:00:06 AM

yeah, this is bullshit...i called the OBGYN and he told me he wasn't accepting appointments for men. i think he's being racialist

4/29/2007 10:59:56 AM

^yeah, well when you grow a vag you let me know. afaik, both men and women have hands.

4/29/2007 12:40:39 PM

^^that'sfucked up. the same thing happened to me when i tried to schedule a mammogram.

4/29/2007 1:10:57 PM

clearly they cant let you have the service because then it wouldnt be "Just for Him" Hands & Feet, know what I'm sayin... there could be some serious false advertising legality issues to contend with...

ask for the "Generally for Him but Maybe for Her if She Doesn't like Gold Glitter Sparkly Hooker Nails" Hands & Feet service

4/29/2007 3:27:03 PM

^lol

[/thread]

4/29/2007 3:48:45 PM

You guys are going about this all wrong. Appeal to her emotions, not her non-existent reason.

4/29/2007 3:50:15 PM

MANBOOBS FTW!

EDIT: lol muzition

[Edited on April 29, 2007 at 4:01 PM. Reason : z]

4/29/2007 3:59:46 PM

You would think they would have to admit men because VMI had to admit women.

But that would be fair and the courts can't allow that.

Quote :

"Agnes Scott College 141 East College Avenue Decatur, GA 30030 (404) 471-6000 http://www.agnesscott.edu Alverno College 3400 S. 43rd Street Milwaukee, WI 53219 (414) 382-6064 http://www.alverno.edu Barnard College 3009 Broadway New York, NY 10027-6598 (212) 854-5262 http://www.barnard.edu Bay Path College 588 Longmeadow Street Longmeadow, MA 01106 (413) 565-1000 http://www.baypath.edu Bennett College for Women 900 East Washington Street Greensboro, NC 27401-3239 (336) 273-4431 http://www.bennett.edu Brenau University One Centennial Circle Gainesville, GA 30501 (770) 534-6299 http://www.brenau.edu Brescia University College 1285 Western Road London, Ontario, Canada N6G 1H2 (519) 432-8353 http://www.brescia.uwo.ca Bryn Mawr College 101 North Merion Avenue Bryn Mawr, PA 19010-2899 (610) 526-5000 http://www.brynmawr.edu Carlow University 3333 Fifth Avenue Pittsburgh, PA 15213 (412) 578-6000 http://www.carlow.edu Cedar Crest College 100 College Drive Allentown, PA 18104-6196 (610) 437-4471 http://www.cedarcrest.edu Chatham College Woodland Road Pittsburgh, PA 15232 (412) 365-1100 http://www.chatham.edu The College of New Rochelle 29 Castle Place New Rochelle, NY 10805 (914) 654-5000 http://www.cnr.edu College of Notre Dame of Maryland 4701 North Charles Street Baltimore, MD 21210 (410) 435-0100 http://www.ndm.edu College of Saint Benedict 37 South College Avenue St. Joseph, MN 56374 (320) 363-5011 http://www.csbsju.edu College of Saint Catherine 2004 Randolph Avenue St. Paul, MN 55105 (651) 690-6000 http://www.stkate.edu College of Saint Elizabeth 2 Convent Road Morristown, NJ 07960 (973) 290-4000 http://www.cse.edu College of Saint Mary 1901 South 72nd Street Omaha, NE 68124 (402) 399-2400 http://www.csm.edu Columbia College 1301 Columbia College Drive Columbia, SC 29203 (803) 786-3012 http://www.columbiacollegesc.edu Converse College 580 East Main Street Spartanburg, SC 29302-0006 (864) 596-9000 http://www.converse.edu Cottey College 1000 West Austin Nevada, MO 64772 (417) 667-8181 http://www.cottey.edu Douglass College of Rutgers University Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey 125 George Street New Brunswick, NJ 08901-1414 (732) 932-9721 http://www.douglass.rutgers.edu Georgian Court University 900 Lakewood Avenue Lakewood, NJ 08701 (732) 364-2200 http://www.georgian.edu Hollins University P.O. Box 9707 Roanoke, VA 24020-1707 (800) 456-9595 http://www.hollins.edu Judson College P.O. Box 120 Marion, AL 36756 (334) 683-5100 http://www.judson.edu Mary Baldwin College Staunton, VA 24401 (540) 887-7019 http://www.mbc.edu Meredith College 3800 Hillsborough Street Raleigh, NC 27607-5298 (919) 760-8600 http://www.meredith.edu Midway College 512 East Stephens Street Midway, KY 40347-1120 (859) 846-4421 http://www.midway.edu Mills College 5000 MacArthur Boulevard Oakland, CA 94613 (510) 430-2255 http://www.mills.edu Moore College of Art and Design 20th Street and The Parkway Philadelphia, PA 19103-1179 (215) 965-4000 http://www.moore.edu Mount Holyoke College 50 College Street South Hadley, MA 01075 (413) 538-2000 http://www.mtholyoke.edu Mount Mary College 2900 North Menomonee River Parkway Milwaukee, WI 53222-4597 (414) 258-4810 http://www.mtmary.edu Mount St. Mary's College 12001 Chalon Road Los Angeles, CA 90049 (310) 954-4000 http://www.msmc.la.edu Newcomb College Institute 43 Newcomb Place New Orleans, LA 70118 (504) 865-5422 toll free: 1-800-327-0009 http://www.newcomb.tulane.edu Peace College 15 East Peace Street Raleigh, NC 27604-1149 (800) PEACE-47 http://www.peace.edu Pine Manor College 400 Heath Street Chestnut Hill, MA 02467 (617) 731-7000 http://www.pmc.edu Randolph-Macon Woman's College 2500 Rivermont Avenue Lynchburg, VA 24503 (434) 947-8000 http://www.rmwc.edu Regis College 235 Wellesley Street Weston, MA 02493-1571 (781) 768-7000 http://www.regiscollege.edu Rosemont College 1400 Montgomery Avenue Rosemont, PA 19010-1699 (610) 527-0200 http://www.rosemont.edu Russell Sage College of The Sage Colleges 45 Ferry Street Troy, NY 12180 (518) 244-2000 http://www.sage.edu Saint Joseph College 1678 Asylum Avenue West Hartford, CT 06117 (860) 232-4571 http://www.sjc.edu Saint Mary-of-the-Woods College Saint Mary-of-the-Woods, IN 47876 (812) 535-5151 http://www.smwc.edu Saint Mary's College Notre Dame, IN 46556 (574) 284-4000 http://www.saintmarys.edu Salem College PO Box 10548 Winston-Salem, NC 27108 (336) 721-2600 http://www.salem.edu Scripps College 1030 Columbia Avenue Claremont, CA 91711-3948 (909) 621-8000 http://www.scrippscollege.edu Simmons College 300 The Fenway Boston, MA 02115-5898 (617) 521-2000 http://www.simmons.edu Smith College College Hall Northampton, MA 01063 (413) 584-2700 http://www.smith.edu Spelman College 350 Spelman Lane Atlanta, GA 30314 (404) 681-3643 http://www.spelman.edu Stephens College 1200 E. Broadway Columbia, MO 65215 (573) 442-2211 http://www.stephens.edu Sweet Briar College P.O. Box B Sweet Briar, VA 24595 (434) 381-6100 http://www.sbc.edu Texas Woman's University P.O. Box 425587 Denton, TX 76204-5587 (940) 898-2000 http://www.twu.edu Trinity (Washington) University 125 Michigan Avenue, N.E. Washington, DC 20017-1094 (202) 884-9000 http://www.trinitydc.edu Ursuline College 2550 Lander Road Pepper Pike, OH 44124 (440) 449-4200 http://www.ursuline.edu Wellesley College 106 Central Street Wellesley, MA 02481 (781) 283-1000 http://www.wellesley.edu Wells College 170 Main Street Aurora, NY 13026 (315) 364-3416 http://www.wells.edu Wesleyan College 4760 Forsyth Road Macon, GA 31210-4462 (478) 477-1110 http://www.wesleyancollege.edu Wilson College 1015 Philadelphia Avenue Chambersburg, PA 17201 (717) 264-4141 http://www.wilson.edu The Women's College of the University of Denver 2199 South University Blvd. Mary Reed Building Denver, CO 80208 (303) 871-6500 http://www.womenscollege.du.edu "

4/29/2007 5:37:57 PM

^umm VMI gets gummit $$$. if they'd drummed up enough alumni support to go private they could've stayed single-sex. iirc they almost did.

4/29/2007 5:57:07 PM

Quote :

"You would think they would have to admit men because VMI had to admit women."

You guys do know that you can take courses at Meredith, Bryn Mawr, etc, right?

Not to mention that a lot of those colleges' grad schools are co ed. You, as a male, can graduate from Meredith's MBA program if you want to.

Plus, there are still some men-only schools:
1. Deep Springs College
2. Hampden-Sydney College
3. Morehouse College
4. Wabash College


[Edited on April 29, 2007 at 10:33 PM. Reason : .]

4/29/2007 10:30:43 PM

yeah, but that would be worthless.

No one would hire a dude who got an MBA from a women's college.

4/29/2007 10:36:28 PM

yeah, where can't you get a job with an MBA in cooking, cleaning, and staying in the fucking kitchen???

4/29/2007 10:38:39 PM

Well if he's so pissed about not being let into a women's college, he can take it up with the court system. I don't see many men bitching that they've been getting better educations for longer than women have, so it shouldn't even be an issue.

I don't know many men who want to go to women's colleges, so I don't know why he'd care that he couldn't go to one.

4/29/2007 10:40:43 PM

Yeah, that's ridiculous to think it's discrimination when there's a TON more services that are available only to women.

plus, we get a freaking channel on tv (Lifetime). helllloooo

also, the amount of men that even walk into spas to get work done is a LOT less than women. that's why it's way cheaper.




[Edited on April 29, 2007 at 11:26 PM. Reason : ]

4/29/2007 11:21:28 PM