I searched and couldn't find it so I'm asking now. If you live in an apartment that allows pets but you have to pay extra, but you just move the pet in there anyways without going through the motions are you probably safe? I see this as being common and happening all the time so i just wanted to find out.

5/10/2007 4:22:12 PM

Another one of these threads.

Just pay the pet fee.

5/10/2007 4:26:16 PM

is it okay to break the rules of your lease?

NO

NO ITS FUCKING NOT. BE AN ADULT

5/10/2007 4:46:45 PM

to answer your question, yes, you are probably safe.
unless you get caught somehow (inspection, take the pet outside), then you are fucked.

5/10/2007 4:50:20 PM

you could do it, but do you really want to put you and your pet in that situation?.....a house where the landlord rarely comes is one thing, but in apartments, there are always eyes around.

5/10/2007 4:52:07 PM

cant wait to see the thread you make bitching about getting caught breaking the rules like that stupid bitch did earlier this month / end of april

5/10/2007 4:54:19 PM

It's fine if you are fucking retarded and want to risk getting evicted or have to give your pet away on craigslist to a home you have no control over.

This happens all the time and I don't know if you are aware or not but the landlord can and will make you get rid of the pet if you get caught (in some cases pay a ridiculous pet fee to keep it, if he is being nice) or evict you for breaking your lease and sue you for damages if you refuse to get rid of the pet.

Grow up and pay the fucking pet fee.

There are plenty of houses/condos/townhomes in Raleigh for sale if you don't like a landlord telling you what to do with HIS house. Until you are ready to by one of those maybe you should at least plan on providing a home for your pet.

5/10/2007 4:55:13 PM

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"your fucking retarded "

5/10/2007 4:56:01 PM

I've gotten away with not paying a pet deposit in the past, though I was watching the kitten temporarily when it moved in and ended up, what, "adopting" her. Fortunately when my landlords busted in and saw her, they didn't realize the terms of the lease & just felt bad that she got out.

I wouldn't run the risk of not paying a pet deposit again, I was just lucky enough the first time that my landlords weren't very strict.

5/10/2007 6:34:02 PM

bah. i've had a cat since xmas and no one has seen her. i'm going to have to make sure i clean the carpets really well because of her fur, but other than that... bah. but then again, my apartment people are really chill and might not care anyways, plus i'm moving out on sunday so.. bah again. i also kept a snake and 2 gerbils (at seperate times) in the dorms.

5/10/2007 6:41:43 PM

we have a cat in our apartment for 10 months. i'm not paying a $300 fee for a damn cat. i wouldn't play this game with a dog, though.

we use very good cat litter. and our cat is like a gray streak to the bedroom when anyone knocks on the door. people have come over and were surprised to learn hours later that we even had a cat.

5/10/2007 9:51:40 PM

You might be able to get away with it especially if your pet is a cat. However, if you get caught the consequences are tremendous. You could be forced to: (1) get rid of the pet, (2) pay the original fee and a lofty fine, or (3) eveicted then sued.

Apartment leasing people are always on the lookout for shit like this, and so are their maintenance providers. If they see a pet at your address they will go confirm you have paid those fees and whatnot.

It comes down to your financial situation. Is not paying the pet fee worth the risk, maybe if it's like 500 dollars, but not so much if it's like a hundred or two hundred dollars.

[Edited on May 10, 2007 at 10:06 PM. Reason : .]

5/10/2007 10:04:41 PM

for me. i have to pay $75 per pet (upto 2 pets) deposit, and then $10/mth (upto 2pets).
i have more than 2 pets in my apartment, and i didnt have the $150 upfront anyway when I moved in, so I never told them i had any pets.
maintence has come several times and they didnt say anything (i mean, how would they know if i paid the pet rent or not?) i've even called down to the main office when i lost my ferret to see if anyone found him, and no one said anything about me having pets....
i mean, unless you have a dog that barks constantly, and your neighbors call the main office to complain, you probably wont get caught..and if u do, u could say you are petsitting, or you just adopted them and were going to start the pet rent at the beginning of the following month.

but i guess it may depend on your complex...and if you even live in a complex that allows pets in the first place.

so whatever, i guess i'm not an "adult" but atleast i wasnt one of the assholes to turn my pet over to the shelter because i was moving into an apartment. atleast i found an apartment that allows pets....

5/11/2007 9:45:51 AM

If you want to live in an apartment that has a pet deposit and you can't afford to pay the pet deposit, then you have no business owning a pet in the first place. Pets cost money to own, if you are a responsible, good pet owner, and if you aren't willing or able to pay that money, you aren't really able to take care of a pet at all...end rant...

With that being said, I once was young and irresponsible and had two cats in an apartment that I didn't pay the pet deposit on, and we totally got nailed when we moved out.

5/11/2007 1:32:15 PM

No.

5/11/2007 1:37:26 PM

^^You said exactly what I was gonna say. $150 for a 2 pet deposit is NOTHING, and you couldn't even afford that?! God save your pets if they ever get sick or injured.

5/11/2007 1:42:42 PM

you people are so self righteous. I was just weighing all my options because I didn't know how serious those provisions are or if they're just standard part of leases that no one takes the time to remove.

5/11/2007 1:54:37 PM

YOU PEOPLE

5/11/2007 2:10:55 PM

B E RESPONSIBLE

5/11/2007 2:15:16 PM

LOL, I doubt anyone on t-dub has the moral authority to tell someone else to be responsible.

5/11/2007 2:18:03 PM

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"if they're just standard part of leases that no one takes the time to remove. "

no, idiot
that part of contract is in there for a reason...to protect the property

not a smart one are you

5/11/2007 2:26:20 PM

i have a cat, different than a dog, plus there is a little deposit you pay thats around a months worth of rent...

5/11/2007 4:51:46 PM

cuz no cat barfs on the floor, meows a lot, scratches stuff, etc.

5/11/2007 7:00:06 PM

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"cuz no cat barfs on the floor, meows a lot, scratches stuff, etc."

Haha.

In fairness, a cat will most likely do very little to no damage. The reason you don't get your deposit back is they are supposed to use that money to steam the carpets & such for any future residents that might be allergic to their dander. In my situation, I had all my own furniture & throw rugs over hard wood floors (plus no curtains), so aside from breaking the blinds, my cat wouldn't have been able to damage anything that came with the property.

5/11/2007 7:21:05 PM

^ type of answer that is appreciated by someone simply asking a question. I guess people are just stupid. Now I see why George Bush was reelected.

5/11/2007 8:39:37 PM

^^ my moms cat meows non stop. she's just as bad as a barky dog sometimes. my point was that despite cats being normally well behaved there are plenty of ones that can mess or smell up the place (shoulda smelled my aunts cat. was fucking terrible).

besides, most places ive stayed have a deposit that goes toward steam/paint even if they dont have pets.

5/11/2007 8:59:06 PM

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"besides, most places ive stayed have a deposit that goes toward steam/paint even if they dont have pets."

Well, okay, but that deposit is different. You are very unlikely to get your pet deposit back, it's sort of a charge for having a pet in the first place. The deposit you pay for painting, provided you don't put a lot of nails through the walls/have tape tear the paint off/otherwise stain the walls is only security for your landlords to cover the cost of repairing damages if there are any. If you don't leave any visible sign of damaging the walls, you are supposed to get that back in full. It is not supposed to be a tenant's responsibility to pay for general upkeep of the house. If the paint is crumbling off the walls in age, that is the landlord's responsibility.
As far as carpet steaming, that's more iffy, but also fits into the same category. If it's been a decade since the carpets were steamed, then it's supposed to be their expense. If you smoked in the place, or did something else to damage the carpet yourself, okay you've lost some of your deposit.

I don't think there would be a debate about whether or not to pay the pet deposit if you were likely to get it back. The point is, whatever a great deal of people are saying (BE UH ADULT), some students don't have $150 to $500 per year (maybe a different situation if you're staying in the same place for several years) to pay for a pet that really doesn't do any damage to the property. I understand the argument that it's a pet owner's responsibility to be able to cover these costs, but I think it's more of a financial question than a matter of irresponsibility. In the past I haven't paid my deposit, but it wasn't an issue. In the future I will, just because I don't like living on edge or getting unexpected fines thrown at me.

5/12/2007 7:40:33 AM

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"[Heather] Campbell [a spokeswoman for Colorado-based apartment company Archstone-Smith] clarified her stance on her company's reasoning about charging pet rent for dogs and cats. 'It's been our experience that house cats can cause as much damage in apartments as dogs do in the common areas,' she said. 'Let's say we find cat urine in the carpeting when someone is moving out. While a resident would pay to replace any carpet that was damaged, we often need to go in and replace subflooring because that's how far cat urine can infiltrate the physical structure of the apartment. There are similar repairs to drywall that gets chewed or clawed by cats. So, the pet rent helps us cover any costs we incur to bring an apartment to a pet-free standard,' Campbell said."

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"Most apartment management companies have similar justifications for charging cat owners. Centreville-based KSI Management Corp., which runs more than 30 pet-friendly buildings in the Washington area, charges nonrefundable pet fees and pet rent because, said spokeswoman Karen Kossow, 'you know there are going to be costs when they move out. A lot of people don't realize cats do a lot more damage than dogs.' 'Even though there is a possibility dogs do more damage to common areas, cats do more damage in apartments,' she said. 'Cats do scoot out sometimes. . . . When cats spray, the carpet's history, as is sometimes paint on the walls. In the apartment itself, you can tell a cat's been there. They are greater expense to get rid of smell, and a lot of people are allergic to cats,' so it takes more to prepare the apartment for the next resident."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/09/AR2005120900902_pf.html

[Edited on May 12, 2007 at 12:07 PM. Reason : .]

5/12/2007 12:05:21 PM

A friend of mine, who i got my 2 kittens from, lived in sumter square apartments. when the cat had the kittens she had a large number of undocumented felines living there & never got in trouble that i'm aware of. The worst I’ve heard of is someone having to pay back pay for the months they didn’t before. Say $10 a month for 4 unregistered months, but since you’d be paying it anyways if you were registered, you really have nothing to lose. Still though I’d only recommend not paying if you are pet sitting for a month or two. I personally like knowing that they know I have cats and are careful not to let them out when repairmen have to come.

5/12/2007 12:16:23 PM

you can never get male cat piss out of carpet

ever. it is there for eternity

5/12/2007 1:47:24 PM

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"^^You said exactly what I was gonna say. $150 for a 2 pet deposit is NOTHING, and you couldn't even afford that?! God save your pets if they ever get sick or injured."

the first week i moved in, no i couldnt afford it. but, whatever.
and you OBVIOUSLY dont know me, because i put my pets before myself. and if any of my pets were to get hurt, i'd have the money for it. so i really dont think it's any of your concern, or your place to judge me and how i take care of my pets.
i'm sorry i'm not like half the people with pets that move into apartments, and turn them over to the shelter, because theyre too lazy to even look for an apartment that allows pets.

5/13/2007 6:41:41 PM

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"the first week i moved in, no i couldnt afford it. but, whatever. "

Have you paid it yet?

5/13/2007 8:17:38 PM

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"the first week i moved in, no i couldnt afford it. but, whatever. and you OBVIOUSLY dont know me, because i put my pets before myself. and if any of my pets were to get hurt, i'd have the money for it. so i really dont think it's any of your concern, or your place to judge me and how i take care of my pets. i'm sorry i'm not like half the people with pets that move into apartments, and turn them over to the shelter, because theyre too lazy to even look for an apartment that allows pets."

It doesn't sound like you are in the position to take care of a pet. You shouldn't have to "put your pets" before yourself...that's just ridiculous.

5/14/2007 7:02:53 AM

^ so your saying if you had kids, you wouldnt put them before yourself? maybe you're rediculous.

5/14/2007 7:26:54 AM

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"some students don't have $150 to $500 per year (maybe a different situation if you're staying in the same place for several years) to pay for a pet that really doesn't do any damage to the property. I understand the argument that it's a pet owner's responsibility to be able to cover these costs, but I think it's more of a financial question than a matter of irresponsibility."

this is why you shouldnt own a pet.

if you cant afford a pet deposit what are you going to do when you have vet bills?

5/14/2007 10:27:18 AM

THIS GUY IS GONNA BE BRINGING ALL OF YOU EVICTION NOTICES!!!!!!!!!

5/14/2007 10:52:21 AM