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http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-al-qaida-american-video,0,7089864.story

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"Al-Qaida Video Threatens Attacks on U.S.

By ANNA JOHNSON
Associated Press Writer
May 30, 2007

CAIRO, Egypt -- An American member of al-Qaida warned President Bush on Tuesday to end U.S. involvement in all Muslim lands or face an attack worse than the Sept. 11 suicide assault, according to a new videotape.

Wearing a white robe and a turban, Adam Yehiye Gadahn, who also goes by the name Azzam al-Amriki, said al-Qaida would not negotiate on its demands.

"Your failure to heed our demands ... means that you and your people will ... experience things which will make you forget all about the horrors of September 11th, Afghanistan and Iraq and Virginia Tech," he said in the seven-minute video.

Gadahn, who has been charged in a U.S. treason indictment with aiding al-Qaida, spoke in English and the video carried Arabic subtitles. The video appeared on a Web site often used by Islamic militants and carried the logo of al-Qaida's media wing, as-Sahab.

Gadahn, who appeared in an al-Qaida video last September in which he called on Americans to convert to Islam, demanded that Bush remove all U.S. military and spies from Islamic countries, free all Muslims from U.S. prisons and end support for Israel. He said a withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq alone would not satisify al-Qaida.

Ben Venzke at IntelCenter, a U.S. government contractor that monitors al-Qaida messages, said the group likely did not believe any of its demands would be met.

"It essentially allows al-Qaida to say that it has provided fair warning and is thus no longer responsible for the outcome," Venzke said in a statement.

Gadahn, a California native, is the first American to be charged with treason in more than 50 years and could face the death penalty if convicted. He also was indicted on a charge of providing material support to terrorists."



http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1154525995106&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull

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"Al-Qaida terrorist has Jewish roots

By JPOST STAFF
Sep. 3, 2006

A man who starred in a video released by al-Qaida's deputy leader Ayman al-Zawahri on Saturday, inviting Americans to convert to Islam, has been identified as Adam Yehiye Gadahn, an American with Jewish ancestry.

According to Wikipedia, he was born Adam Pearlman on September 1, 1978, the grandson of a prominent Jewish surgeon and the son of musician Phil Pearlman, who converted to Christianity and changed his named to Gadahn (apparently derived from the Biblical figure Gideon.) He grew up in Santa Ana, California, converted to Islam and, in 1995, posted an essay on the USC Web site describing his conversion. According to his parents, Gadahn moved to Pakistan in 1998, where he married an Afghani refugee."



http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may2007/300507phonytape.htm

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"Mossad Agent Pearlman Releases Phony "Al-Qaeda Tape"

Paul Joseph Watson
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Wednesday, May 30, 2007

Adam Pearlman, the Jewish Mossad agent who once wrote stinging essays condemning Muslims as "bloodthirsty terrorists", has once again popped up as an "Al-Qaeda spokesman" to frighten the dwindling number of Americans who still believe Al-Qaeda exists outside of U.S. intelligence circles.

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Pearlman's personal history and the highly suspicious nature in which he suddenly professed his conversion to Islam in a single Internet posting and later appeared on the scene as a spokesman for "Al-Qaeda" are all the ingredients needed to draw the conclusion that Pearlman is working as a double agent and most likely for Mossad."

5/30/2007 12:59:11 PM

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Direct link to the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLUeSf86v1E

5/30/2007 1:08:39 PM

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"He said a withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq alone would not satisify al-Qaida.
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tell that to Ron Paul

5/30/2007 1:09:03 PM

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As long as we keep fighting the war in Iraq like the Jewish establishment wants (ie, "fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them here"...all while the border is WIDE OPEN, lol)...and giving up our freedoms so that the government can "give us security" (suuuuure)...then al-CIA(Mossad)-duh won't have to stage another false flag terrorist attack.






[Edited on May 30, 2007 at 1:36 PM. Reason : 1]

5/30/2007 1:35:35 PM

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He's 1/4 jewish.

That means that he is 3/4 christian and would be more aptly characterized as a christian man.

But please don't let me get in the way of your hysteria.

5/30/2007 1:55:20 PM

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"tell that to Ron Paul"


Don't misrepresent the man.

5/30/2007 1:56:44 PM

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al-CIA-duh

heh, made me chuckle, at least.

5/30/2007 6:33:55 PM

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Hahah, is that youtube kid for real?

It's hilarious either way; just curious.

oh, and

5/30/2007 6:53:17 PM

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Wait, where is the evidence linking him to Mossad? Or are we just supposed to take prisonplanet's word for it?

5/30/2007 7:48:47 PM

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"who converted to Christianity and changed his named to Gadahn (apparently derived from the Biblical figure Gideon.) He grew up in Santa Ana, California, converted to Islam and, in 1995, posted an essay on the USC Web site describing his conversion."


I heard salisburyboy is al Qaida

5/31/2007 10:46:28 AM

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"Wait, where is the evidence linking him to Mossad? Or are we just supposed to take prisonplanet's word for it?"


It's more likely that he is a Mossad agent than not, IMO. But since I don't know that for sure, that's why I put a "?" after Mossad in the title of the thread.

But anyway, aren't we just supposed to blindly believe what the jewstablishment media and Zionist-controlled government is telling us?....ie, that this guy is a part of "al Qaida", and that this "al Qaida" is a real organization.

5/31/2007 5:34:49 PM

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Why is it more likely than not that he is a Mossad agent? Do you actually believe that anyone who is 1/4 Jewish is probably working for Mossad?

Feel free to disprove the existence of al Qaida.

5/31/2007 6:04:21 PM

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Related...

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/12/07/1038950239070.html

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"Palestinians arrest al-Qaeda 'poseurs'

December 8 2002

Palestinian security forces have arrested a group of Palestinians for collaborating with Israel and posing as operatives of Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda terrorist network, a senior official said yesterday.

The arrests come two days after Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon charged al-Qaeda militants were operating in Gaza and in Lebanon.

"The Palestinian Authority arrested a group of collaborators who confessed they were working for Israel, posing as al-Qaeda operatives in the Palestinian territories," said the official, on condition of anonymity.


He said the alleged collaborators sought to "discredit the Palestinian people, justify every Israeli crime and provide reasons to carry out a new (military) aggression in the Gaza Strip."

The official did not say how many suspects had been arrested, nor where or when they were nabbed.

Earlier, international cooperation minister Nabil Shaath announced he would hold a press conference here on the alleged presence of al-Qaeda operatives in the Gaza Strip.

Sharon's announcement marked the first time Israel officially claimed that al-Qaeda, held responsible for the September 11, 2001 attacks in the United States, was operating in the Palestinian territories.

It was considered a surprise because the Gaza Strip is virtually sealed off by Israeli troops.

The hardline Israeli leader also charged other members of the terror group were cooperating with Lebanon's Shi'ite militia Hizbollah.

The Palestinians slammed the allegation as "totally absurd" and accused Sharon of trying to piggyback on the US-led "war against terrorism" to strengthen his military operations against militants in the territories.

Both the Lebanese government and Hizbollah made similar statements."

5/31/2007 6:14:31 PM

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they gonna go through with the next attacks so they can instill fear.

then all it will take is the signing of a bill to start the totalitarism.

5/31/2007 6:29:32 PM

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1) That was nearly 5 years ago and you've posted it multiple times.
2) Do you have any follow up articles that detail what they were doing? Or even how many were arrested, their identities, and when, where, and how they were arrested?
3) Why do you give the Palestinian Authority more credibility than you ever give any other government (except for Iran)?
4) Why is it more likely than not that Gadahn is a Mossad agent?
5) Do you actually believe that anyone who is 1/4 Jewish is probably working for Mossad?

When you make wild claims you need to provide more than an assumption based on your admitted hatred of Jewish people.

5/31/2007 6:32:56 PM

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salisburyboy: is this you?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=aXB0tCE_G2g

6/1/2007 3:25:24 AM

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"The idea of a vast “al-Qaeda” network is a hoax, and to the extent that it actually exists it was created by the CIA and other Western intelligence agencies."


Eg, bin Laden is a well-known CIA asset:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3340101/

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"Bin Laden comes home to roost

His CIA ties are only the beginning of a woeful story


By Michael Moran
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NEW YORK, Aug. 24, 1998 - At the CIA, it happens often enough to have a code name: Blowback. Simply defined, this is the term describing an agent, an operative or an operation that has turned on its creators. Osama bin Laden, our new public enemy Number 1, is the personification of blowback. And the fact that he is viewed as a hero by millions in the Islamic world proves again the old adage: Reap what you sow."


Bin Laden's CIA ties made him the perfect candidate for a patsy in a false flag terrorist attack.



[Edited on June 1, 2007 at 7:40 AM. Reason : 1]

6/1/2007 7:39:04 AM

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Bin Laden is not, and never has been a CIA asset. Regardless of what Alex Jones tells you.

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"Bergen: Bin Laden, CIA links hogwash

CNN terrorism analyst Peter Bergen says the notion that Osama bin Laden once worked for the CIA is "simply a folk myth" and that there's no shred of evidence to support such theories.

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BERGEN: This is one of those things where you cannot put it out of its misery.

The story about bin Laden and the CIA -- that the CIA funded bin Laden or trained bin Laden -- is simply a folk myth. There's no evidence of this. In fact, there are very few things that bin Laden, Ayman al-Zawahiri and the U.S. government agree on. They all agree that they didn't have a relationship in the 1980s. And they wouldn't have needed to. Bin Laden had his own money, he was anti-American and he was operating secretly and independently.

The real story here is the CIA didn't really have a clue about who this guy was until 1996 when they set up a unit to really start tracking him."


http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/08/15/bergen.answers/index.html

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"Bergen quotes Pakistani Brigadier Mohammad Yousaf, who ran ISI's Afghan operation between 1983 and 1987:

It was always galling to the Americans, and I can understand their point of view, that although they paid the piper they could not call the tune. The CIA supported the mujahideen by spending the taxpayers' money, billions of dollars of it over the years, on buying arms, ammunition, and equipment. It was their secret arms procurement branch that was kept busy. It was, however, a cardinal rule of Pakistan's policy that no Americans ever become involved with the distribution of funds or arms once they arrived in the country. No Americans ever trained or had direct contact with the mujahideen, and no American official ever went inside Afghanistan."


Holy War Inc. by Peter Bergen, New York: Free Press, c2001., p.66

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"Dispelling the CIA-Bin Laden Myth

Two years after the Sept. 11 attacks, no memorial service, cable-news talkfest or university seminar seemed to have been complete without someone emerging from the woodwork to wonder darkly why the CIA ever financed Usama bin Laden "in the first place."

Everyone from Washington Post reporters to Michael Moore seems to buy some version of this.

It is time to lay to rest the nagging doubt held by many Americans that our government was somehow responsible for fostering bin Laden. It's not true and it leaves the false impression that we brought the Sept. 11 attacks down on ourselves. While it is impossible to prove a negative, all available evidence suggests that bin Laden was never funded, trained or armed by the CIA.

Bin Laden himself has repeatedly denied that he received any American support. “Personally neither I nor my brothers saw any evidence of American help,” bin Laden told British journalist Robert Fisk in 1993. In 1996, Mr. Fisk interviewed bin Laden again. The arch-terrorist was equally adamant: “We were never, at any time, friends of the Americans. We knew that the Americans supported the Jews in Palestine and that they are our enemies.”

In the course of researching my book on Bill Clinton and bin Laden, I interviewed Bill Peikney, who was CIA station chief in Islamabad from 1984 to 1986, and Milt Bearden, who was CIA station chief from 1986 to 1989. These two men oversaw the disbursement for all American funds to the anti-Soviet resistance. Both flatly denied that any CIA funds ever went to bin Laden. They felt so strongly about this point that they agreed to go on the record, an unusual move by normally reticent intelligence officers. Mr. Peikney added in an e-mail to me: “I don’t even recall UBL [bin Laden] coming across my screen when I was there.”

There are many reasons to believe them. They knew where the money went. Both men have retired from the CIA; they have no motive to mouth an agency line. And no compelling evidence has emerged that the CIA ever paid bin Laden: no cancelled checks, no invoices, no government reports.

Those who contend that bin Laden received U.S. funds usually make the following argument: America financed the Afghan rebels, bin Laden was among the rebels, therefore, in one way or another, America gave money to bin Laden.

This ignores a key fact: There were two entirely separate rebellions against the Soviets, united only by a common communist enemy. One was financed by Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states and was composed of Islamic extremists who migrated from across the Muslim world. They called themselves “Arab Afghans (search).” Bin Laden was among them. When the Saudis agreed to match U.S. contributions dollar-for-dollar, the sheikhs insisted that their funds go exclusively to the “Arab Afghans,” possibly including bin Laden. Meanwhile, U.S. funds went exclusively to the other rebellion, which was composed of native Afghans. Mr. Bearden told me: “I challenge anyone to give any proof that we gave one dollar to any Arab Afghans, let alone bin Laden.”

Even if the CIA wanted to pay “Arab Afghans” -- which agency officials insist they did not -- bin Laden would be a far from obvious choice. Bin Laden himself rarely left the safety of Pakistan’s northwestern cities and commanded few troops of his own. At the time, bin Laden was the Arab Afghan’s quartermaster, providing food and other supplies.

If a CIA officer tried to give money to bin Laden, he probably would not have lived through the experience. The arch-terrorist was known for his violent anti-Americanism. Dana Rohrabacher, now a Republican congressman from California, told me about a trip he took with the mujahideen (search) in 1987. On that trek, his guide told him not to speak English for the next few hours because they were passing by bin Laden’s camp. “If he hears an American, he will kill you.”
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,98115,00.html

6/1/2007 1:21:47 PM

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"Lies of the Left II: Osama

Lie Number One: The CIA recruited Osama Bin Laden, and thousands of Arabs, to fight in Afghanistan against the Soviet Union.

Truth: The CIA didn’t recruit anyone to fight in Afghanistan, not even Bin Laden.

After Soviet troops entered Afghanistan in December 1979, the native Afghan fundamentalist factions that opposed the Soviet puppet regime were galvanized. Not only did they have a war against the ruling government, they had an actual superpower to declare jihad, or holy war, against. The call for jihad resonated throughout the Islamic world, striking a chord among the most fervent and extreme Islamic factions throughout the Middle East. Among these fundamentalists was a young Arabian son of an extremely wealthy and well-connected family – Osama Bin Laden. Without any active participation from the CIA as many as 25,000 Arabs went to take part in the jihad. They went to join in the only legitimate holy war that was available to them at the time. As for Osama, he is reported to have told an interviewer from Arabic language Al-Quds al-Arabi, “I was enraged, and went there at once.”

Of course, there was really no need for any Arabs to be recruited for the struggle. Even if substantially more than the estimated 25,000 Arabs went to Afghanistan, the native Afghans involved in the jihad against the Soviet-backed regime numbered in the hundreds of thousands. The Arabs who came to join in were often reported by the natives to be more of a pain than a help. “They thought they were kings,” was what one Afghan told a reporter. The Arabs were more ignored by the Afghans than not. John Simpson, a BBC reporter, recounted that he had an encounter with Bin Laden. Bin Laden ordered the reporter’s Afghan driver to kill him, offering the driver five hundred dollars to do so – a very reasonable sum for an act which would have few consequences. The driver refused. Bin Laden was reported to have wept on his cot in frustration afterward.

Lie: The CIA trained Osama Bin Laden, and his supporters, in how to wage terror as a weapon of war.

Fact: The CIA trained absolutely no one in Afghanistan, or in neighboring Pakistan, neither in the tactics of terror or even in how to use the Stinger missiles provided to the Afghans.

The entire CIA effort in Afghanistan was more logistical than operational. Vince Cannistraro, the National Security Council staff director who headed up coordination of policy for Afghanistan in the mid-1980’s told author Peter Bergen that there were only six CIA employees in Pakistan at any given time – and none actually in Afghanistan – and that they were administrators rather than field officers. Bergen also reports that CIA officials only rarely met with leaders of the Afghan resistance, and never with the Arabs who came to the jihad. This is not to imply that U.S. officials never met with Afghan leaders. They did. There were plenty of photo opportunities to be had, and elected and high level bureaucrats often took advantage of them. But to believe that, say a Congressional staff member went to Afghanistan to train resistance warriors, much less terrorists would be pushing the bounds of possibility.

What the CIA did, in reality, was buy weapons, ammunition, and supplies, in vast quantities. The Pakistani intelligence agency, the ISI, distributed the weapons and supplies once the Americans delivered them. This was a fundamental rule of Pakistani policy according to Brigadier Mohammed Yousaf, who ran the ISI operation in Afghanistan between 1983 and 1989: No American was to come into contact with the mujahedeen and no American was to be involved in the distribution of arms or supplies once they arrived in Pakistan. So far as the Arabs who went to the jihad, such as Bin Laden, were concerned, there was even less contact between them and the Americans. The Arabs had their own sources of funding and support, and no need of the Americans at all.

What training was provided was provided by Pakistan and likely did include terror tactics. The Pakistani’s were no strangers to terrorist activities. They had been supporting terrorism, mainly in the Kashmir region of India, since the 1970’s. The Pakistani’s directed the bulk of American-financed support to the Afghan groups that were the most extremist, the most Islamist, the most violent. These groups were reported by the Pakistani’s to also be the most effective, although those claims are questionable. The group, which received the highest percentage of aid, as well as the most support from Arab sources, was the Hizb party, which was headed by a Muslim fanatic named Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, who was a Pakistani agent from long before the jihad began.

There were more moderate Afghan commanders available, but they were not trusted so much by Pakistan, and therefore weren’t seen as reliable by the Americans. Perhaps the biggest mistake the U.S. made in the Afghan operation was in not taking greater account of who the Pakistani’s were paying with our tax dollars. However, the ISI was seen as being more familiar with the situation “on the ground” and was allowed to run the show. If the CIA had taken a stronger hand in determining the allocation of support, it was likely that the ISI would have stopped funneling any support to the Afghans.

Lie: The CIA helped Bin Laden all along, and continues to help him.

Fact: Bin Laden never had any relations with Americans or American officials. Al Qaeda sources told Peter Bergen that Bin Laden was predicting conflict with the Americans from the early 1980’s.

To seriously believe that Bin Laden would willingly have ever worked with the Americans, one would have to so completely discard common sense as to believe that Bert the Sesame Street character really was an Al Qaeda operative because he has been seen in Internet photos with Bin Laden.

After the Afghan jihad ended, Bin Laden went home to Saudi Arabia, where he predicted that the Saudi kingdom would soon have to face Saddam Hussein and proposed using Arab veterans of Afghanistan to protect the land of the Prophet. When American troops arrived to drive Iraq from Kuwait and support the de facto alliance with Saudi Arabia, Osama grew quite irate. Even today, one of the continuing demands from Al Qaeda is the immediate departure from Arabia of all American troops.

As is clear from the facts, the accusations by the Left of an American role in the creation of the Al Qaeda terror threat are, at least, greatly exaggerated. While the efforts of the U.S. in Afghanistan during the 1980’s were not without some errors, they did not lead to the fostering of the threat to world peace and order that Osama Bin Laden and his followers represent. Even without American involvement in the Afghan jihad, it is at least as likely that Bin Laden would have been involved and found his “calling” as the ringleader of present day international terrorism."


http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=5443

6/1/2007 1:22:09 PM

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What? Now the lamestream media is backtracking and trying to deny the CIA-bin Laden connections?

Big shocker there.

6/1/2007 2:41:03 PM

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hahaha

6/1/2007 3:00:45 PM

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/events/newsnight/1645527.stm

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6/11/01

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SPRINGMAN:
What I was protesting was, in reality, an effort to bring recruits, rounded up by Osama Bin Laden, to the US for terrorist training by the CIA. They would then be returned to Afghanistan to fight against the then-Soviets."



http://www.guardian.co.uk/waronterror/story/0,1361,584444,00.html

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"CIA agent alleged to have met Bin Laden in July

French report claims terrorist leader stayed in Dubai hospital


Anthony Sampson
Thursday November 1, 2001
The Guardian

Two months before September 11 Osama bin Laden flew to Dubai for 10 days for treatment at the American hospital, where he was visited by the local CIA agent, according to the French newspaper Le Figaro.

The disclosures are known to come from French intelligence which is keen to reveal the ambiguous role of the CIA, and to restrain Washington from extending the war to Iraq and elsewhere.

Bin Laden is reported to have arrived in Dubai on July 4 from Quetta in Pakistan with his own personal doctor, nurse and four bodyguards, to be treated in the urology department. While there he was visited by several members of his family and Saudi personalities, and the CIA."

6/1/2007 3:12:22 PM

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"What? Now the lamestream media is backtracking and trying to deny the CIA-bin Laden connections?"


Slandering sources is not rational discussion, brainiac.

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"SPRINGMAN:
What I was protesting was, in reality, an effort to bring recruits, rounded up by Osama Bin Laden, to the US for terrorist training by the CIA. They would then be returned to Afghanistan to fight against the then-Soviets."


Check out an in depth interview with Michael Spingman:
http://www.btinternet.com/~nlpWESSEX/Documents/springmaninterview.htm

He doesn't name his sources and he doesn't have a shred of physical evidence - just hearsay. I'd like some legitimate evidence regarding the story and proof that Springman is anything more than an unhinged former employee of the State Department.

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"CIA agent alleged to have met Bin Laden in July"


Unconfirmed allegations once again. If you do your research on that you'll find that every story on that (most of which are hosted only on prisonplanet) mentions unnamed or inside sources and doesn't provide a shred of physical proof.

I bring facts to the table. You bring old stories that make unsubstantiated allegations pasted from prisonplanet.

I am curious though, if bin Laden is a CIA asset, why do they need a fake bin Laden to appear in their videos? It seems like the receptionist at the CIA could call him up and say "Hey Sammy! It's Trish over at the CIA, we need you to appear in a propaganda video when you get back from Cabo. Thanks!"

Your ideas are starting to contradict each other once again. At various times you've stated that

1) bin Laden is a CIA asset
2) the CIA uses a bin Laden double in videos
3) bin Laden has nothing to do with terrorism or 9/11

Please clarify what exactly you are prattling on about this week.

I'll repeat what you were too afraid to address earlier:

1) Your "Mossad agents posing as al Qaeda" article was nearly 5 years ago and you've posted it multiple times.
2) Do you have any follow up articles that detail what they were doing? Or even how many were arrested, their identities, and when, where, and how they were arrested?
3) Why do you give the Palestinian Authority more credibility than you ever give any other government (except for Iran)?
4) Why is it more likely than not that Gadahn is a Mossad agent?
5) Do you actually believe that anyone who is 1/4 Jewish is probably working for Mossad?

When you make wild claims you need to provide more than an assumption based on your admitted hatred of Jewish people.

Thanks. Have a good weekend.

6/1/2007 8:13:55 PM

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^ I'm still waiting for you to answer the unaddressed questions in your last jew related thread.

7/19/2007 11:06:39 AM

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So why is it "more likely that he is a Mossad agent than not"?

8/3/2007 3:29:52 PM

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