pocketduces All American 1861 Posts user info edit post |
“PackPlus” is an internal newsletter done by the NC State Athletics administration for the athletics and academics community on campus. “Coach Fowler” usually writes a propaganda piece extolling how wonderful things are within his Athletics Department. In the column Fowler writes, he spells Sidney “Sydney” not once, but twice. Everywhere else in the article (columns Fowler doesn’t write), Coach Lowe’s first name is spelled correctly.
Quote : | "* Coach Sydney Lowe had an outstanding first season leading the Pack to 20 wins and the NIT.
* Coaches Sydney Lowe and Tom O’Brien…" |
6/7/2007 8:08:57 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39305 Posts user info edit post |
OMG LETS FIRE HIM FOR THIS 6/7/2007 8:29:06 PM |
Beardawg61 Trauma Specialist 15492 Posts user info edit post |
If only that were the only thing he ever fucked up. 6/7/2007 8:29:38 PM |
Kodiak All American 7067 Posts user info edit post |
He probably has a secretary or someone who types this (or even writes it). 6/7/2007 8:31:49 PM |
bigTHEW All American 7330 Posts user info edit post |
Oh my! His proof reader didn't catch the typo, it is now the end of the world.
This isn't even news worthy, if there weren't a bunch of Fowler haters out there no one would even care.
[Edited on June 7, 2007 at 8:49 PM. Reason : .] 6/7/2007 8:49:24 PM |
package2 All American 1450 Posts user info edit post |
^^ it was spelled correctly in the other parts of the stuff. just not his parts 6/7/2007 8:58:01 PM |
Kodiak All American 7067 Posts user info edit post |
INSERT PACKPRIDE TALKING POINTS HERE 6/7/2007 9:02:27 PM |
MsWuf All American 3258 Posts user info edit post |
place blame on Jim White here ... and sadly, that newsletter is about all he does.
[Edited on June 7, 2007 at 11:33 PM. Reason : .] 6/7/2007 11:32:49 PM |
Mr Grace All American 12412 Posts user info edit post |
i dont see why people hate fowler so much.
way i see it, one way or the other, he has landed some good coaches.
hell even the tennis team is good now. 6/8/2007 11:30:28 AM |
ewalk All American 1031 Posts user info edit post |
^i can't speak for everyone but here's my list.....feel free to add
1. Talks shit about NC State fans 2. Makes NCSU look like idiots in the national media w/ pitiful coaching search 3. Won't stand up for our right to tailgate more than 4 hrs. 4. Didn't even hire O'brien (he found us) and then claims credit and reaps benefits 5. Won't get rid of a coach unless they have an absolutely pathetic showing (volleyball / football) - in both cases I felt really bad for both coaches b/c it was so pathetic. 6/8/2007 12:01:23 PM |
Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
if we fired fowler our athletic situation would be 100,000 times better 6/8/2007 12:16:18 PM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "1. Talks shit about NC State fans" |
link?
Quote : | "2. Makes NCSU look like idiots in the national media w/ pitiful coaching search" |
Show me any lasting negative effects of the coaching search.
Quote : | "3. Won't stand up for our right to tailgate more than 4 hrs." |
How is that his job?
Quote : | "4. Didn't even hire O'brien (he found us) and then claims credit and reaps benefits" |
Where did he claim credit for "finding" O'brien? He hired O'brien, and he should get the requisite credit for that.
Quote : | "5. Won't get rid of a coach unless they have an absolutely pathetic showing (volleyball / football) - in both cases I felt really bad for both coaches b/c it was so pathetic." |
You're obviously referring to his refusal to fire Herb. If you are worried about NCSU looking like idiots in the national media, then you're contradicting yourself. I certainly wasn't satisfied with Herb's record, but firing him would have been guaranteed bad publicity that would take years to shed.6/8/2007 12:24:20 PM |
Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
dude
the volleyball coach didnt win any or only one acc match in 4 years before she was fired
not acceptable at all 6/8/2007 12:36:14 PM |
ewalk All American 1031 Posts user info edit post |
1.http://www.statefansnation.com/index.php/archives/2005/10/18/mission-accomplished-fowlers-name-in-lights-again/
2. I can't post links to people's perception on our program before and after that whole disaster, but trust me, we didn't gain points from it.
3. b/c he is the ATHLETICS DIRECTOR
4. you know how dumb that sounds? state fans deserve the credit for being so passionate about football and showing up for a game that to most would not seem that big. i don't care who is the AD, if somebody like O'brien showed up on your doorstep, would you tell him no? it was a no brainer, my grandma could've made that call and i don't think she's watched a football game in her life.
5. Quote : | "(volleyball / football) " |
who said anything about herb? although i didn't agree w/ matching ASU's ludicrous offer for a mediocre coach, i decided not to bring it up as it is a debatable issue.
Just b/c Fowler has been lucky w/ O'brien and Lowe, it does not make him a good AD.
^i also think it was more like 6 or 7 yrs w/ volleyball being the joke of the ACC6/8/2007 12:51:55 PM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "You're obviously referring to his refusal to fire Herb." |
I thought he was referring to his refusal to fire Amato. Fans were hoping he would do so before he coached us that 3 win season. Nearly every fan was worried that he wouldn't even after the 3 win season.6/8/2007 12:58:36 PM |
Mr Grace All American 12412 Posts user info edit post |
are you seriously that upset about womens volleyball? 6/8/2007 1:11:48 PM |
ewalk All American 1031 Posts user info edit post |
^ no, but i am concerned when a AD fails to do his job. i am praying that fowler is fired/retires before we have to hire again for BB or FB.
although it will be a sad day when we do have to hire again, here's hopin that both these coaches have a long tenure here. 6/8/2007 1:20:17 PM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
are you so gay that you actually care about WOMEN'S VOLLEYBALL?
Quote : | "3. b/c he is the ATHLETICS DIRECTOR" |
and athletics director has what to do with tailgating? Is tailgating a fucking NCAA sanctioned sport now? I hate the 4 hour rule (btw it's 5 hours now) as much as anyone else, but that's not the AD's fucking responsibility.6/8/2007 3:03:12 PM |
ewalk All American 1031 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^ no, but i am concerned when a AD fails to do his job." |
How an AD handles these types of situations is an indicator of how he handles his whole job in general. If he is willing to just sit there and watch as one of our athletic programs suffers, then that should be an indicator of how he handles other programs. Fowler is only concerned about making sure HE doesn't get fired, he only acts when he HAS to. He should be proactive not reactive. He waits until shit hits the fan before he even tries to find a solution.
Name one instance where Fowler has made a heads up move. A good AD knows the athletic programs and can see problems coming at them before they happen.
The Athletics Director should be involved in anything that has to do with the sports programs. I know he didn't make the rule and he can't change it, but he should have been meeting with Oblinger trying to do something about it. Notice that when Oblinger decided to change the rule he included Fowler in the discussion. This is b/c he is the ATHLETICS DIRECTOR. I think it is pathetic that the Chancellor had to initiate a meeting w/ Fowler, it should have been the other way around w/ Fowler looking out for the fans.6/8/2007 3:23:53 PM |
sober46an3 All American 47925 Posts user info edit post |
hey guys, i watch sports, i too obviously know how to run a university's athletic program! 6/8/2007 3:24:49 PM |
Jmhans82 All American 630 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "“Coach Fowler” usually writes a propaganda piece extolling how wonderful things are within his Athletics Department that has won fewer Atlantic Coast Conference Championships during his tenure than any other program within the ACC." |
This is why he sucks. When is the last time we won a conference championship in anything significant. Avent is turning into Sendek, but Fowler continues to extend his contract during the season.
[Edited on June 8, 2007 at 3:28 PM. Reason : a]6/8/2007 3:26:10 PM |
EZ2Score21 All American 1115 Posts user info edit post |
you can't get mad at him for not firing the old volleyball coach.
Would you want to pay two coaches at one time for a sport no one cares about? No. Let the woman finish her contract, don't retain her and then hire someone new. 6/8/2007 4:02:53 PM |
pocketduces All American 1861 Posts user info edit post |
^ yea because the volleyball coach's salary is soooo fucking high. 6/8/2007 4:14:34 PM |