http://soccernet.espn.go.com/tables?league=conmebol.america&cc=5901

Group A: Bolivia, Peru, Uruguay, Venezuela
Group B: Brazil, Chile, Ecuador, Mexico
Group C: Argentina, Colombia, Paraguay, USA

I'll be rooting for USA, of course, but I'll guess that Brazil or Argentina win it all (not going out on the limb here)

Tuesday, June 26th matches:
Uruguay vs Peru @ 6:05pm ET
Venezuela vs Bolivia @ 8:50pm ET

Wednesday, June 27th matches:
Ecuador vs Chile @ 6:35pm ET
Brazil vs Mexico @ 8:50pm ET *should be the best game of group play*

Thursday, June 28th matches:
Paraguay vs Colombia @ 6:35pm ET
Argentina vs USA @ 8:50pm ET

6/26/2007 12:04:48 AM

i have a feeling our "MLS" squad is about to get raped

6/26/2007 12:22:01 AM

is any of this on TV? (preferably in english, like ESPN?)

i CANNOT STAND soccer but there is nothing on this time of year, so i'll watch anything

6/26/2007 1:07:04 AM

its on one of the mexican channels

channel 17 here in raleigh

6/26/2007 1:49:43 AM

there should be a tww soccer fans outing for a game sometime

6/26/2007 2:10:33 AM

we tried to do that last year for the world cup but it never really happened

6/26/2007 2:11:00 AM

seems like we would be able to get a pretty decent crowd

6/26/2007 2:11:49 AM

and if we were to do it im not so sure copa america would be the time to do it


from a US perspective

6/26/2007 2:15:55 AM

haha, true

6/26/2007 2:16:33 AM

i think there was a time when four of five of us were in the same bar during the WC, but we failed to talk to each other

6/26/2007 2:21:20 AM

ha, yeah

i've never been one to approach somebody from tww since im not too big of a fan of people coming up to me and saying "hey, you're that goodlife guy from thewolfweb"

this last happened to me right before running onto the court at the end of the carolina game

if we planned a group thing that'd be cool

6/26/2007 2:26:39 AM

there's a guy who is in sam's army from cary that started a group called triangle soccer fanatic...they had us soccer parties at that pub in cary off kildaire last summer for the world cup...went to one, it was fun

6/26/2007 9:02:15 AM

looks like some teams brought their A teams...unlike us

ARGENTINA
No. Pos. Player DoB/Age Caps Goals Club
1 GK Roberto Abbondanzieri August 19, 1972 (1972-08-19) (age 34) 30 0 Flag of Spain Getafe
12 GK Juan Pablo Carrizo May 6, 1984 (1984-05-06) (age 23) 1 0 Flag of Argentina River Plate
22 GK Agustín Orión June 26, 1981 (1981-06-26) (age 25) 0 0 Flag of Argentina San Lorenzo
8 DF Javier Zanetti August 10, 1973 (1973-08-10) (age 33) 103 5 Flag of Italy Internazionale
2 DF Roberto Ayala(c) April 14, 1973 (1973-04-14) (age 34) 109 7 Flag of Spain Valencia
6 DF Gabriel Heinze April 19, 1978 (1978-04-19) (age 29) 34 1 Flag of England Manchester United
15 DF Gabriel Milito September 7, 1980 (1980-09-07) (age 26) 19 0 Flag of Spain Real Zaragoza
3 DF Daniel Díaz March 13, 1979 (1979-03-13) (age 28) 3 0 Flag of Argentina Boca Juniors
17 DF Nicolás Burdisso April 12, 1981 (1981-04-12) (age 26) 13 0 Flag of Italy Internazionale
4 DF Hugo Ibarra April 1, 1974 (1974-04-01) (age 33) 7 0 Flag of Argentina Boca Juniors
13 MF Lucho González January 19, 1981 (1981-01-19) (age 26) 33 5 Flag of Portugal Porto
14 MF Javier Mascherano June 8, 1984 (1984-06-08) (age 23) 22 0 Flag of England Liverpool
19 MF Esteban Cambiasso August 18, 1980 (1980-08-18) (age 26) 28 2 Flag of Italy Internazionale
5 MF Fernando Gago April 10, 1986 (1986-04-10) (age 21) 1 0 Flag of Spain Real Madrid
20 MF Juan Sebastián Verón March 9, 1975 (1975-03-09) (age 32) 58 9 Flag of Argentina Estudiantes
16 MF Pablo Aimar November 3, 1979 (1979-11-03) (age 27) 44 7 Flag of Spain Real Zaragoza
10 MF Juan Roman Riquelme June 24, 1978 (1978-06-24) (age 29) 38 8 Flag of Argentina Boca Juniors
18 FW Lionel Messi June 24, 1987 (1987-06-24) (age 20) 12 2 Flag of Spain Barcelona
9 FW Hernán Crespo July 5, 1975 (1975-07-05) (age 31) 62 32 Flag of Italy Internazionale
21 FW Diego Milito June 12, 1979 (1979-06-12) (age 28) 10 3 Flag of Spain Real Zaragoza
11 FW Carlos Tévez February 5, 1984 (1984-02-05) (age 23) 27 4 Flag of England West Ham United
7 FW Rodrigo Palacio February 5, 1982 (1982-02-05) (age 25) 4 0 Flag of Argentina Boca Juniors


MEXICO
No. Pos. Player DoB/Age Caps Goals Club
1 GK Oswaldo Sánchez September 21, 1973 (33) 81 0 Flag of Mexico Santos Laguna
2 DF Jonny Magallón November 21, 1981 (25) 10 0 Flag of Mexico Guadalajara
3 DF Fausto Pinto August 8, 1983 (23) 0 0 Flag of Mexico Pachuca
4 DF Rafael Márquez February 13, 1979 (28) 76 9 Flag of Spain Barcelona
5 DF Israel Castro December 20, 1980 (27) 3 0 Flag of Mexico Pumas
6 MF Gerardo Torrado April 30, 1979 (28) 71 3 Flag of Mexico Cruz Azul
7 FW Alberto Medina May 29, 1983 (24) 34 2 Flag of Mexico Guadalajara
8 MF Jaime Correa August 6, 1979 (27) 0 0 Flag of Mexico Pachuca
9 FW Jared Borgetti August 14, 1973 (33) 85 43 Flag of Mexico Cruz Azul
10 FW Cuauhtémoc Blanco January 17, 1973 (34) 92 32 Flag of United States Chicago Fire
11 MF Ramón Morales October 10, 1975 (31) 51 5 Flag of Mexico Guadalajara
12 FW Juan Carlos Cacho May 3, 1982 (26) 1 0 Flag of Mexico Pachuca
13 GK Guillermo Ochoa July 13, 1985 (21) 6 0 Flag of Mexico América
14 DF Gonzalo Pineda October 19, 1982 (24) 36 1 Flag of Mexico Guadalajara
15 DF José Antonio Castro August 11, 1980 (26) 19 0 Flag of Mexico América
16 MF Jaime Lozano September 29, 1979 (27) 29 12 Flag of Mexico UANL
17 FW Adolfo Bautista May 15, 1979 (28) 26 8 Flag of Mexico Chiapas
18 MF Andrés Guardado September 28, 1986 (20) 19 1 Flag of Mexico Atlas
19 FW Omar Bravo March 4, 1980 (27) 41 10 Flag of Mexico Guadalajara
20 MF Fernando Arce April 24, 1980 (27) 19 1 Flag of Mexico Morelia
21 FW Nery Castillo June 13, 1984 (23) 4 1 Flag of Greece Olympiakos
22 DF Francisco Javier Rodríguez October 20, 1981 (25) 38 1 Flag of Mexico Guadalajara


BRAZIL (looks more like a B team but probably still good)
No. Pos. Player DoB/Age Caps Goals Club
1 GK Helton 18 May 1978 3 0 Flag of Portugal Porto
12 GK Doni 22 October 1979 1 0 Flag of Italy Roma
2 DF Maicon 26 July 1981 21 1 Flag of Italy Inter Milan
3 DF Naldo 10 September 1982 2 0 Flag of Germany Werder Bremen
4 DF Juan 1 February 1979 51 3 Flag of Italy Roma
6 DF Gilberto 25 April 1976 16 1 Flag of Germany Hertha Berlin
13 DF Daniel Alves 6 May 1983 5 0 Flag of Spain Sevilla FC
14 DF Alex Silva 10 March 1985 0 0 Flag of Brazil Sao Paulo
15 DF Alex 17 June 1982 8 0 Flag of England Chelsea
16 DF Kléber 1 April 1980 8 0 Flag of Brazil Santos
5 MF Mineiro 2 August 1975 7 0 Flag of Germany Hertha Berlin
8 MF Gilberto Silva 7 October 1976 49 3 Flag of England Arsenal
10 MF Diego 28 February 1985 18 3 Flag of Germany Werder Bremen
11 MF Júlio Baptista 1 October 1981 21 0 Flag of Spain Real Madrid
17 MF Josué 19 July 1979 2 0 Flag of Brazil Sao Paulo
18 MF Fernando 3 May 1981 1 0 Flag of France Bordeaux
19 MF Elano 14 June 1981 11 2 Flag of Ukraine Shakhtar Donetsk
20 MF Anderson 13 April 1988 0 0 Flag of England Manchester United
7 FW Robinho 25 January 1984 36 5 Flag of Spain Real Madrid
9 FW Vagner Love 11 June 1984 7 2 Flag of Russia CSKA Moscow
21 FW Fred 3 October 1983 9 4 Flag of France Lyon
22 FW Afonso Alves 20 January 1981 2 0 Flag of Netherlands SC Heerenveen

[Edited on June 26, 2007 at 9:23 AM. Reason : yeah]

6/26/2007 9:21:42 AM

what team is Juan Pablo Montoya on

6/26/2007 10:19:04 AM

Yeah if anyone knows any places playing the US game thursday night in English let me know, I wouldnt mind heading out to watch it and have a few drinks.

6/26/2007 10:21:16 AM

check us soccer website, nobody is broadcasting in english, its all spanish...so ill be watching on my couch on telefutura (ch.17 in raleigh i believe)

6/26/2007 11:25:23 AM

Are they broadcasting all the games, or only the US one?

6/26/2007 11:26:19 AM

They're showing all of them I thought...

^^ I thought GolTV was showing some games, wouldn't that be in English?

6/26/2007 11:32:43 AM

i'm in charlotte - there's been a group of us watching gold cup at Big Ben on Providence - i'm not sure they have telefutura or GolTV though, so a change of venue might be in order

6/26/2007 11:49:09 AM

does anyone know who Ricky Ricardo plays for?

6/26/2007 11:52:54 AM

Any chance someone has been able to watch this streaming online? I'm also in Charlotte and short of ordering a new channel package I am SOL... annnd unfortunately for me I am actually moving in the middle of the event so I don't want to buy the package for my current residence.

6/26/2007 4:29:23 PM

at least Fred is on the Brazilian roster

6/26/2007 4:48:05 PM

[Edited on June 26, 2007 at 4:59 PM. Reason : copa cabana]

6/26/2007 4:59:15 PM

wow, you guys sure are great at trolling soccer threads

6/26/2007 5:10:08 PM

http://rojadirecta.com

or

http://www.myp2p.eu

according to some other message boards

6/26/2007 5:26:51 PM

they called offsides on that 2nd peru goal? bs

6/26/2007 6:48:58 PM

hmmm pretty average goal there, keeper should have been able to handle that one

6/26/2007 7:37:40 PM

jesus, that is definitely argentina's A+ squad...

Bradley shouldve brought the B squad for the Gold Cup, and the A, or semi-A squad for the Copa America(since its the bigger tournament)

6/26/2007 8:30:42 PM

^i agree, and i dont see why these players would not wanna play in this tournament besides if there was like a club team issue or something...i guess we did have to hold down our own tournament and territory but we im just as disappointed as anyone else that we didnt bring the goods

6/26/2007 8:55:40 PM

well hopefully the US doesnt get embarassed, i believe our B squad can beat Paraguay's A squad, could be the same with colombia, i havent really heard much from any players coming from that country recently. we will most likely lose to Argentina, and if we get through to the next round i have a feeling we play will draw Brazil(im not sure how the draws work for the next round though)

6/26/2007 9:52:19 PM

After group play, the matchups will be:

Quarters 1: 1A vs 2nd best 3rd
Quarters 2: 2B vs Best 3rd
Quarters 3: 1B vs 2C
Quarters 4: 1C vs 2A

Semis 1: Q1 vs Q2
Semis 2: Q3 vs Q4

3rd Place: S1 loser vs S2 loser

Finals: S1 vs S2

[Edited on June 26, 2007 at 10:15 PM. Reason : ]

6/26/2007 10:12:41 PM

ahaha so yea, if we are 2nd in our group we prob play brazil

and then if we even get past that, most likely argentina again in the semis

[Edited on June 26, 2007 at 10:16 PM. Reason : s]

[Edited on June 26, 2007 at 10:19 PM. Reason : wow spelling]

6/26/2007 10:15:19 PM

Damn Bolivia.. clutch goal in 84th minute to tie... nice

6/26/2007 10:39:32 PM

wow although it was a dramatic dive, that looked like a PK



[Edited on June 26, 2007 at 10:46 PM. Reason : around the 90th minute]

6/26/2007 10:45:43 PM

Group A game results:

Peru (3 - 0) Uruguay
Venezuela (2 - 2) Bolivia

6/26/2007 10:50:52 PM

Te amo Peru!

http://www.univision.com/contentroot/uol/30deportes/content/jhtml/copa_america/NOMETA_partidosEnVivo.jhtml

for those who need to watch via internet

6/27/2007 12:25:23 AM

first good day of games...

the first game tonight is on telefutura...the Mexico vs. Brazil game is on at 8:30pm on Univision (all Mexico's games are on Univision i believe)

6/27/2007 8:56:27 AM

hopefully someone bumps this thread before the game so i remember.

6/27/2007 11:25:47 AM

where's the gold cup thread, that was one awsome final usa vs mexico!!!

6/27/2007 3:51:16 PM

message_topic.aspx?topic=457028&page=6

6/27/2007 3:55:32 PM

^^^^^ that Univision link is faster then the tv by 5 seconds .... nice

[Edited on June 27, 2007 at 9:12 PM. Reason : ]

6/27/2007 9:12:17 PM

Sweet goal Mexico... popped the ball over defender's head, and one-touched it into the goal over goalie's head.

6/27/2007 9:22:31 PM

Damn I sure didnt expect to turn this game on to a 2-0 Mex score

6/27/2007 9:34:24 PM

So does this look good for the US if Mexico takes down Brazil since we beat Mexico last weekend? or just reeeeeally bad for Brazil?

Halftime: Mexico 2, Brazil 0

1st goal: perfect pass for 1 on 1, popped ball over defender, then popped it over goalie.
2nd goal: free kick from just outside the goal box, bent perfectly into the corner of the net

[Edited on June 27, 2007 at 9:50 PM. Reason : ]

6/27/2007 9:48:32 PM

Brazil must have brought the F team, b/c they look like garbage.

6/27/2007 10:18:31 PM

Pass much?

6/27/2007 10:26:20 PM

Quote :

"Brazil must have brought the F team, b/c they look like garbage."

I missed the first half, but I don't know what game you're watching. They've been dominating the last 25 minutes - two shots cleared off the Mexico's line, one off the crossbar, and a couple of other really nice chances. I am amazed by their touch on the ball, and this is their freaking B team.

6/27/2007 10:34:56 PM

Group B game results:

Chile (3 - 2) Ecuador
Mexico (2 - 0) Brazil ***this was a very fun game to watch. 2 amazing goals and Mexico's goalie was insane***

tomorrow...
Thursday, June 28th matches:
Paraguay vs Colombia @ 6:35pm ET
Argentina vs USA @ 8:50pm ET

[Edited on June 27, 2007 at 10:48 PM. Reason : ]

6/27/2007 10:46:43 PM

I still don't understand why ochoa didn't play in the Copa de Oro, he is hands down 1000x better than Sanchez

6/28/2007 12:05:12 AM

i would love to see brazil get embarrassed during this tournament. if you can't respect the tourny enough to bring your A-team, you shouldn't win. Every other team this year (save the US - who will be slayed tonight) brought their A-team. Argentina is stacked with an even better squad that they played in the World Cup. Brazil has been good enough to win this tourny in the past playing their 8th through 20th strongest players, but I would love to see them not advance from the first round so that they try to actually compete for the next copa america. i mean, common, it's the second most prestigous cup a south american team can win, and its the oldest tournament in the world.

post script: the concacaf gold cup and copa america need to combine and make one big tournament with North and South America countries. That would be sweet, and probably give the Eurocup a run for it's money.

6/28/2007 10:50:25 AM