Apple event tomorrow, as you all probably already know. Here's my wishlist for the new iPod:


-Full screen, touch interface ala iPhone (no more scroll wheel??!?)
-Flash memory (32GB at least, plz)
-Wifi (Some definite advantages to this for Apple: people buying iTunes directly from the iPod=more impulse buys)
-All new interface w/CoverFlow


If it does have Wifi, I just hope it comes packin' Safari. I want a pocket web-access device that doesn't suck (ie is a phone) damnit!

If it's got all of these, I'm buying one right away and having it engraved with "Steve Jobs is my daddy" on the back. For every 1 of these features that is missing, it will take me approximately 1 minute longer to pull the trigger.

9/4/2007 2:36:01 PM

isn't the scroll wheel kinda signature to an ipod?


i doubt their gonna drop that.

[Edited on September 4, 2007 at 2:41 PM. Reason : ei]

9/4/2007 2:41:00 PM

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"If it does have Wifi, I just hope it comes packin' Safari. I want a pocket web-access device that doesn't suck "

Then you actually want anything other than Safari.

9/4/2007 2:42:37 PM

He didn't say "Safari for windows"

9/4/2007 2:43:30 PM

I think Safari is plenty fine for most applications, Stein. We don't all need to be able to browse the web from a terminal line.

The scroll wheel might be 'virtual' in this iteration?

9/4/2007 2:44:33 PM

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"Then you actually want anything other than Safari."

safari on apple products is great and on an iPhone it's by far the best browser out that I've ever used on a handheld device. Now, the version they rushed to put out for PC's sucked ass from my understanding.

9/4/2007 2:45:17 PM

This might actually be enough to get me to buy an apple product.

9/4/2007 2:46:56 PM

unfortunately, I'm afraid it won't be rockin' a web browser... I think that definitely treads on the iPhone's territory too much for their comfort. Oh well, a man can dream.

9/4/2007 2:48:07 PM

If it's got wifi access and no web browser then it will be a matter of days before it actually gets a web browser via other means.

9/4/2007 3:01:15 PM

^^^ because it has (had?) a huge security hole that allows free open access to whatever device it's used on.

9/4/2007 3:01:31 PM

what browser would you suggest, Stein, IE? lol...
Safari is a great browser, especially on Mac

9/4/2007 3:05:43 PM

whatever overcomplicated browser the ubernerds are all using nowadays, undoubtedly. Cuz, you know, Safari isn't 'powerful' enough.


SkankinMonky: I guess you've got a point, especially if it's running OSX redux like the iPhone. Come to think of it, that's a pretty exciting prospect as far as homebrew goes (emulators, etc etc).

9/4/2007 3:12:05 PM

http://www.digitimes.com/systems/a20070903PD203.html

This is most likely what I've been waiting for for over a year when it comes to why I've been putting off buying an ipod. For me it will come down to price. If I can get an iphone minus the phone with 16 or 32 GB of flash for around $300 I'll bite. Any more than that and I'll start to feel silly spending that much money and not getting an iphone. Assuming that's the only difference.

They list Increased storage capacity as a feature for the new nano. If I can get 16GB on that for around $200 that will be awfully tempting. Somehow I have my doubts.

Bottom line is, I'm pretty sure I'll finally be getting an ipod after tomorrow. I'm still interested to see the specifics on the pricing and features to figure out which one.

9/4/2007 3:25:58 PM

but you can't grope + lick the nano like you can the (supposed) full-screen iPod.

9/4/2007 3:26:53 PM

+1 for the nano as far as I'm concerned.

9/4/2007 3:28:00 PM

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"isn't the scroll wheel kinda signature to an ipod? i doubt their gonna drop that."

have you seen the iPhone?

9/4/2007 4:09:28 PM

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"what browser would you suggest, Stein, IE? lol... Safari is a great browser, especially on Mac"

I'd suggest IE over Safari, that's for certain. At least the user base for IE is large enough that people know how to work around its bizarre quirks.

But really anything that renders pages even remotely close to how they're supposed to be rendered would be a step up from Safari. It's a terrible browser, regardless of whether you're using Windows or OSX.

I mean, it renders quickly, yeah. But if it took like half a second longer to actually render things in some way fathomable to the human mind, that'd be far better.

9/4/2007 4:16:36 PM

^^


It's not a standalone ipod, though. It's a completely different product.

9/4/2007 4:26:31 PM

A touchscreen over a damn click wheel is almost guaranteed in my opinion. The hardware has already been developed with the iPhone and I see no reason why they would do it any other way.

[Edited on September 4, 2007 at 4:33 PM. Reason : ^^ what doesn't it render properly? Every page I've viewed is fine and I use it constantly]

9/4/2007 4:32:55 PM

I would think if the ipod where to dramatically change in appearance, something would've leaked about it.

9/4/2007 4:51:23 PM

I have serious doubts that the new iPod will essentially be an iPhone minus the phone part. I think Apple is going to want to keep the iPod and iPhone as 2 distinct products, and not have them competing against each other. Expect a touch wheel interface similar to the previous models, more storage, and some minor aesthetic improvements.

[Edited on September 4, 2007 at 4:59 PM. Reason : :]

9/4/2007 4:58:48 PM

Practically every expert, "insider", and rumor mill say one thing.

Shrike from the wolf web says another.

I know who I'm gonna believe.

9/4/2007 5:17:49 PM

I saw a comment on another site that pointed out that the ipod accounts for several million units a year vs 200K iphones. Profit is profit. AT&T and Apple are in bed together on the iphone, Apple alone makes money on the iPod. Why not make it iphone like?

9/4/2007 5:26:22 PM

^
Haha, it's not that simple.

9/4/2007 5:41:11 PM

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"isn't the scroll wheel kinda signature to an ipod? i doubt their gonna drop that."

...... i think apple is smart enough to know not to keep a square wheel just cause its their signature piece. touchscreen ftw.

9/4/2007 5:51:24 PM

I don't think we'll see touchscreen iPods this revision.

I think we'll just see a revised UI and smaller or differently oriented iPods with a coverflow browser as well.

9/4/2007 6:01:41 PM

I jumped boats to the Creative Zen when I saw the features they packed into the Vision M (namely, support for practically every video file format).

If Apple can do that this time around, that would score some points in my book.

9/4/2007 6:17:10 PM

^ It's not going to happen.

9/4/2007 6:20:41 PM

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"^^ what doesn't it render properly? Every page I've viewed is fine and I use it constantly"

Any number of websites. Look, it's a crappy browser, but if it does enough for you to conduct your online business, then by all means use it. Since there's really no other product for an Apple handheld device to use, it's pretty much either shitty Safari or nothing, and in that case, yes, Safari is much better.

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"Practically every expert, "insider", and rumor mill say one thing. Shrike from the wolf web says another. I know who I'm gonna believe."

It seems as though every "expert", "insider" and rumor mill (all great sources, by the way) are saying that Apple is going to not only completely change the physical interface of their flagship device, but also the graphical interface and change the type of storage for the worse (the whole "less space" thing) - all at once!

Geez, I don't know why that would be considered a little outlandish

9/4/2007 6:23:12 PM

flash>hdd

the one thing that keeps me from buying an ipod. (though i have a nano for the wife).

i prefer a smaller physical size, faster load times, transfer times, and less risk for damage over a large heavy hdd based player anyday.

flash based 32gb ipod ftw

btw, thinksecret hardly ever gets it wrong:
http://www.thinksecret.com/news/0709preipod.html

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"Touch-screen iPod to take center stage September 4, 2007 - Apple will at last unveil a touch-screen iPod with a 3.5-inch display at its media event Wednesday, sources have confirmed, some 20 months after Think Secret first broke word of the device's development. The new iPod will feature similar dimensions to Apple's iPhone with which it will share the same display, but sources except the iPod to continue to sport a hard drive in place of Flash memory. Solid state media commands a roughly 15-fold price premium per gigabyte over a 1.8-inch hard drive, which is now available in substantial quantities at capacities up to 120GB. The rumormill has been ripe with other feature speculation surrounding the new iPod, some more far-fetched than others. While it is possible the new iPod will be the first to pack some sort of wireless capability, suggestions of digital radio playback should be taken with a grain of salt. Apple's new iPod nano, meanwhile, will gain much of the same functionality as Apple's current 5.5G iPod, including video playback and a higher resolution 320x240 pixel display. The nano will remain Flash-based, with capacities expected to top out at 12GB or 16GB, in keeping with rival product offerings. The iPod nano is also expected to feature the first substantial improvement to the iPod's traditional interface. Rumored to have been in development for nearly two years, the click-wheel based interface will pack plenty of animation and other visual flair, including CoverFlow browsing if leaked videos of the interface--screenshots of which are offered below--are true to the final form. Apple may take advantage of tomorrow's media event to make other announcements, including new iPod accessories. Think Secret sources recently said they believe the iPod Hi-Fi speaker system will be eliminated from Apple's product line-up in the near future. In addition, rumors that Apple will make an announcement regarding the Beatles catalog have circulated for some time and may come to a head tomorrow. The rumors have been partially fueled by content selections in the leaked iPod interface videos and also by the recent addition of John Lennon's solo work to iTunes."

[Edited on September 4, 2007 at 6:43 PM. Reason : /]

9/4/2007 6:41:07 PM

I'm not going to buy it until it comes in brown.

9/4/2007 8:20:10 PM

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"200K iphones"

huh?? I thought they were beating their predictions and selling like 3-4x that

9/4/2007 8:33:02 PM

integrated speakers so when you pull your headphones out you and your buddies can listen to the music
digital camera
no more scroll wheel

9/4/2007 8:48:40 PM

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"Any number of websites. Look, it's a crappy browser, but if it does enough for you to conduct your online business, then by all means use it. Since there's really no other product for an Apple handheld device to use, it's pretty much either shitty Safari or nothing, and in that case, yes, Safari is much better."

Examples? You keep saying the same thing without backing it up with examples...

9/4/2007 9:02:51 PM

The one website I went to w/my iPhone that it didn't render quite right was http://www.jeep.com (I saw a hideous looking wrangler parked in front of Waraji, and wanted to read up on it till my friend got there). It didn't handle frames/scrolling perfectly. That said, the device/implementation is leaps and bounds better than ANY other mobile device has come close to. I'm buying another one for my girlfriend tomorrow...
Ahmet

PS: The fact that I may choose to browse on the iPhone when my laptop is on the desk next to me, says a lot about it's usability.

9/4/2007 9:18:27 PM

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"huh?? I thought they were beating their predictions and selling like 3-4x that"

they sold that many in the first 2 days.

It was the #1 SmartPhone/Crossover in July and equal to the (much cheaper) Chocolate. Still estimated to sell 1 million by the end of Sept and maybe 4.5 million by the end of the year
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070904-report-iphone-outsold-all-smartphones-in-july.html

9/4/2007 9:21:52 PM

APPLE STORE IS DOWN



psyche

9/4/2007 10:51:25 PM

it's today, it's today ZOMG

9/5/2007 8:54:01 AM

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"Any number of websites. Look, it's a crappy browser, but if it does enough for you to conduct your online business, then by all means use it. Since there's really no other product for an Apple handheld device to use, it's pretty much either shitty Safari or nothing, and in that case, yes, Safari is much better."

I use Safari as my main browser where possible (I use Linux at work and have to use FireFox when there) and never really have any problems. In general I have found it to be extremely fast and reliable and have found that the browsing experience with it is better than many other browsers.

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"Examples? You keep saying the same thing without backing it up with examples..."

Yeah. Please provide some URLs of major sites that do not work with Safari and what the problem is.

9/5/2007 9:08:35 AM

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"Since there's really no other product for an Apple handheld device to use, it's pretty much either shitty Safari or nothing, and in that case, yes, Safari is much better."

Have you used it on an iphone or are you just talking our your ass? There is no better browser out right now for handheld device.. if you know one, please post about it.

9/5/2007 9:11:31 AM

used Safari on an iphone a couple of times... not really any problems...

9/5/2007 9:38:52 AM

9/5/2007 9:39:30 AM

that shit was hilarious

9/5/2007 9:41:01 AM

aye



I'M GOING TO PUT 21,000 MORE THINGS INTO THE iRack!

9/5/2007 9:45:06 AM

OMG, that was quality.

9/5/2007 10:11:54 AM

pulling the cover off the "iRack" was funny as shit.. dont have sound at work but I saw this on madTV when it first aired... A+

9/5/2007 10:20:08 AM

1.5 hours.

9/5/2007 10:39:13 AM

that shit was hilarious

9/5/2007 10:44:45 AM

Sounds like the OP wants an iPhone sans the Phone and with a lot more storage. I couldn't agree more.

We're essentially talking about a widescreen, touchscreen iPod, and now that Apple has suckered ppl w/ the phones, it's time for those happy with their current phone to get a similar device that doesn't talk.

And oh yeah, shameless plug for finding out what's new the moment it happens:
http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/05/steve-jobs-live-apples-the-beat-goes-on-special-event/

9/5/2007 11:06:37 AM

^^ 2hours, starts at 1PM

9/5/2007 11:06:58 AM