http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070907/ap_on_go_ot/iran_terrorism_2;_ylt=Aj6WJlajw0tTwUS93Olms3N2wPIE

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"WASHINGTON - Iran must pay $2.65 billion to the families of the 241 U.S. service members killed in the 1983 bombing of the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut, a federal judge declared Friday in a ruling that left survivors and families shedding tears of joy. Iran has been blamed for supporting the militant group Hezbollah, which carried out the suicide bombing in Beirut. It was the worst terrorist act against U.S. targets until the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks."

Placing responsibility on Iran though is very significant moral victory. I'm glad that the courts officially confirmed the legal grounds for the lawsuit, but good luck getting them to pay up.

9/7/2007 1:41:17 PM

i believe we have frozen assest of Iran.

9/7/2007 1:45:11 PM

wow...have US courts become a circus so soon? Next thing we'll see is Iraqi courts upholding a lawsuit against the US for the deaths of countless innocent lives. I'm sure Iran will come up with something else similar.

9/7/2007 2:19:32 PM

what about the iranian commercial airliner that was shout out of the sky by a cruise missile, killing all ~300 on board? did they get compensation?

what about the prisoners from abu ghraib who were sexually tortured and humiliated? did they get their compensation?

what about the arab-european who was picked up from the streets of macedonia, flown to guantanamo, held for several months, TORTURED, then dropped off in the middle of nowhere on the streets of another eastern european country (he shared the name with a known terrorist )? the US even refused to apologize to him, let alone compensate him.

what about the hundreds of cases similar to that guy's? like the 4 british-pakistanis held for 4 years and tortured, just because they happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, and shared names with known terrorists (see Road to Guantanamo)? did they receive their compensation?

what about victims of murder, rape, and torture of civilians by "bad apples" in US forces in iraq? like the 14 year old girl gang-raped, her parents and younger sister shot point blank, then the girl herself killed, and then whole house burnt down to destroy evidence. did their relatives get any compensation? and countless other heinous cases like that.

what about known and documented israeli atrocities? if iran can be convicted because it "supports" the perpatrator, surely the US can/should be convicted because it supports israel.

let the accusations of

anti-semite
jew-hater
anti-american
turrrrrist
etc

flow.


[Edited on September 7, 2007 at 3:24 PM. Reason : ]

9/7/2007 3:22:21 PM

^its ok man, they weren't classified as REAL human beings because they don't carry an American passport.

9/7/2007 3:26:12 PM

^^its blatantly obvious to everyone that you're Anti-American...I really don't see why you try to deny it

[Edited on September 7, 2007 at 3:26 PM. Reason : ^^]

9/7/2007 3:26:35 PM

Lets put you on the other side of the fence and see how 'pro-america' you are. But since as far as you are concerned America is the only country that exists on this planet and its people are the only citizens you don't care how others are treated.

9/7/2007 3:28:58 PM

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"Lets put you on the other side of the fence and see how 'pro-america' you are"

Hey lets make all the rich people poor and poor people rich and make the black people white and the white people black to prove your point

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"America is the only country that exists on this planet and its people are the only citizens you don't care how others are treated."

I know when Americans are captured by Islamofascists they are often beheaded...whereas in Guantanamo Bay not ONE SINGLE MURDER HAS OCCURRED

9/7/2007 3:30:14 PM

wow...nvm...go smoke a blunt or something.

9/7/2007 3:30:59 PM

way to change the subject when you get completely pwnt

9/7/2007 3:31:19 PM

wow....nvm...go smoke a blunt or something.

9/7/2007 3:33:25 PM

No prisoner has ever been murdered in Guantanamo

I only wish our captured troops weren't beheaded, you know, since the enemies are such caring people and the US are such bad people

9/7/2007 3:40:11 PM

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"No prisoner has ever been murdered in Guantanamo"

Why are you only looking at Guantanamo, you intellectually dishonest human(?) ?

Prisoners (many innocent) and CIVILIANS have been murdered by US forces in cold blood, and women and LITTLE GIRLS GANG RAPED in both Iraq and Afghanistan.

Now you are going to ask me to show you proof. IF you do, I am going to call you a fucking stoned moron who doesn't read the news.


[Edited on September 7, 2007 at 4:03 PM. Reason : ]

9/7/2007 4:02:20 PM

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"Why are you only looking at Guantanamo, you intellectually dishonest human(?) ? "

you brought up guantanamo...i discussed it...you bedwetting anti-american al-queda sympathizer

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"CIVILIANS have been murdered by US forces in cold blood, and women and LITTLE GIRLS GANG RAPED in both Iraq and Afghanistan"

what like a dozen total in the last 4 years? sorry we cant meet your friends quotas for beheading and carbombings of innocent people EVERY SINGLE DAY

you're a stupid fag who blames the United States when an insurgent blows up civilians...that magically turns into the United States being responsible for those deaths

and here comes your "GOD DAMMIT YOU STUPID FUCKER THERE WOULDNT BE INSURGENTS WITHOUT US OCCUPATION"

[Edited on September 7, 2007 at 4:06 PM. Reason : OEP wets the bed]

9/7/2007 4:04:03 PM

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"you brought up guantanamo"

I brought up more than just guan... you think the 14 yo girl was gang-raped there, you dolt?

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"what like a dozen total in the last 4 years?"

I don't know how many it is, so I am not going to claim I know the number, like you are trying to do. And even IF it is a dozen, you obviously are capable of waving it away... you anti-Arab anti-Muslim snake.

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"you're a stupid fag who blames the United States when an insurgent blows up civilians"

No, I have never said that. I have blamed the insurgents themselves, on here, and in real life. LIAR.

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"sorry we cant meet your friends quotas for beheading and carbombings of innocent people EVERY SINGLE DAY"

I didn't know there was a competition going on... I guess the US is winning it, right? Thanks for proving your murderous nature.

The rest of your post is just drivel and irrelevant insults. I am sure that makes you a better person.

9/7/2007 4:31:11 PM

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"its ok man, they weren't classified as REAL human beings because they don't carry an American passport."

AMERICANEANS ARE THE BEST OK!!1!!

9/7/2007 5:46:03 PM

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"Lets put you on the other side of the fence and see how 'pro-america' you are. But since as far as you are concerned America is the only country that exists on this planet and its people are the only citizens you don't care how others are treated."

You're just the type of non American most of us detest. You come here on the backs of your rich relatives money. You fuck our women (though, to be honest, they were the ones we didn't want to fuck), you buy up all our little gadgets that we create, you live the life that many many dirt poor and not so dirt poor Americans would just love to live...you know, the American dream....and yet you don't hesitate one little second to just fucking rip this country and it's citizens every little chance you get

from the comforts of your air conditioned room

while you are on hiatus from driving your gas guzzling sports car on our wonderful roads

no doubt laid back in your posh leather chair banging away at the keyboard connected to your $texas gaming rig

while you take a break from playing Halo on your HDTVs


You're a hypocritical scum bag. You're a piece of shit unworthy of entry in this country. Why don't you go back to your precious middle east and try all the above you dick bag.

9/7/2007 6:12:07 PM

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"You're just the type of non American most of us detest. You come here on the backs of your rich relatives money. You fuck our women (though, to be honest, they were the ones we didn't want to fuck), you buy up all our little gadgets that we create, you live the life that many many dirt poor and not so dirt poor Americans would just love to live...you know, the American dream....and yet you don't hesitate one little second to just fucking rip this country and it's citizens every little chance you get from the comforts of your air conditioned room while you are on hiatus from driving your gas guzzling sports car on our wonderful roads no doubt laid back in your posh leather chair banging away at the keyboard connected to your $texas gaming rig while you take a break from playing Halo on your HDTVs You're a hypocritical scum bag. You're a piece of shit unworthy of entry in this country. Why don't you go back to your precious middle east and try all the above you dick bag."

I think this is the first post you've made that really made me laugh out loud. haha

I lost it when i read

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"wonderful roads"

........

and as far as the rest of the post, you've summed up every reason why the world hates you, not me.


and not that its any of your business but...

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"You come here on the backs of your rich relatives money."

actually translates into, we came on the backs of ABB

but thanks for reading my autobiography

[Edited on September 7, 2007 at 6:44 PM. Reason : fda]

9/7/2007 6:41:42 PM

Thats a lot of quoting and some typing of text....to say not a god damn thing.

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" and as far as the rest of the post, you've summed up every reason why the world hates you, not me. "

"Umm, I'm Mark and I am retarded, a lot of the world doesn't like America, and I can't comprehend the ownage that just happened to me, so I'll just quote it and say that is why the world doesn't like America, even if it doesn't make sense"

I'd ask you to try again, but you are consistently outclassed in this section by most anyone you attempt to reply to.

9/7/2007 7:05:44 PM

I'd have to agree with OEP and golovko on this one. I love america but the average american's laziess, and i include myself in that, and the irresonsible foriegn policy and administration are creating so many international problems that it so many of the problems we face can be traced back to what we are doing


therefore seeing the truth for what it is is not being anti-americian, if you love american and have hope for it, then you should try to see the truth and stop trying to defend america's mistakes

9/7/2007 7:25:19 PM

DING DING DING

9/7/2007 7:25:57 PM

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"therefore seeing the truth for what it is is not being anti-americian, if you love american and have hope for it, then you should try to see the truth and stop trying to defend america's mistakes"

WINNER! but sadly we are 'out-classed' by the likes of chance.

9/7/2007 7:40:16 PM

This is a simple matter of the United States has deemed Iran a state sponsor of terror. Through the laws of the United States, once a country is deemed a state sponsor of terrorism, all assets of said country in the United States are immediately frozen. Families and people who have been injured in acts of terror that can be tied directly to the state sponsor are then alloted the ability to sue said country in American courts.

There is nothing illegal or mischievous about this.

9/7/2007 8:02:28 PM

I doubt that the Iranian government will pay.

I'm assuming that this trial was to provide some closure for the victims' families. Maybe the family members expect compensation; I wouldn't.

Imagine how many foreign countries would like to see us compensate families for the militant groups that we've supported over the past half century.

[Edited on September 7, 2007 at 8:56 PM. Reason : ^So the families will actually be awarded from the frozen assets?]

9/7/2007 8:45:47 PM

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"therefore seeing the truth for what it is is not being anti-americian, if you love american and have hope for it, then you should try to see the truth and stop trying to defend america's mistakes"

You completely and utterly missed the essence of my point. Nothing of what I posted has anything to do with defending America's mistakes.

I am talking about, how in every thread, this dbag Gloveko, is always one of the firsts to talk shit about America, doesn't matter what the thread topic

While he is

1) Uneducated
2) Lives off a rich uncle and doesn't work a real job
3) Fucks chicks that claim to be raped but its ok because the guy is hot
4) Buys sports cars and races them
5) Buys expensive electronics -> AND GLOATS ABOUT THEM (see iPhone thread for example)
6) Stereotypes and talks shit about any ethnicity that isn't his own

Don't you get it?

He is every bit as American as it comes, but somehow thinks because he isn't Caucasian, he gets a free pass to rip on the US and it's freedoms, the same ones that make 1-6 + many others possible for him.

9/7/2007 8:46:52 PM

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"Nothing of what I posted has nothing to do with defending America's mistakes."

So everything that you posted has at least something to do with defending America's mistakes?

J/K

[Edited on September 7, 2007 at 9:05 PM. Reason : Double negatives are fun.]

9/7/2007 9:02:29 PM

They should've also sentenced Ahmadinejad to One day in jail. That'll teach him.

9/7/2007 9:05:31 PM

lol

IF YOU DONT LIKE AMERICA

GIT THE HELL OUT YOUR GOD DAMN TURRIST

9/7/2007 9:34:44 PM

What I can't understand is why it has to be either/or with you slovenly droolers.

Of course the USA has made mistakes. That is an undeniable condition of being human.

Of course this thread is full of hypocritical morons who detest American policy but greedily accept the rewards of it.

What is wrong about an AMERICAN court condemning the bombing of a barracks and then rewarding the families of the wrongfully dead with some Iranian money that's been sitting in the bank since the Ayatollah got the boot?

[Edited on September 7, 2007 at 10:43 PM. Reason : /]

9/7/2007 10:42:33 PM

I think the real problem is the devide in the american public and goverment
one side is trying to figure out how to win wars and make money
the other side is constantly bitching about what the other side is doing wrong
its like a bad marriage, but both sides are neccassary to the survival of america
we just need to work on how to get alog so we dont destroy ourselves

9/7/2007 10:53:41 PM

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"^So the families will actually be awarded from the frozen assets?"

I didn't bother searching for the link, but maybe someone else can find it. Not to long ago, a women of Iranian heritage living in Chicago found our her mother, still living in Iran, was dying. So she left her white American husband and two kids temporarily to rush to Iran. Regretfully, she was detained after landing in Iran and was charged, tried, and convicted of being a spy and sentenced to life in prison (by this time her mother was dead).

After a few years sitting in an Iranian jail cell, her husband was shocked to find all the families financial assets with her name on them were seized. It turns out, after so long being back in Iran, the U.S. government declared her an Iranian citizen, which meant her U.S. assets were liable to be seized.

Hopefully the families awarded the $2.65 billion will enjoy this unfortunate family's life savings.

9/8/2007 12:11:36 AM

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"After a few years sitting in an Iranian jail cell, her husband was shocked to find all the families financial assets with her name on them were seized."

That's some epic justice right there.

And regardless, how can the US government seize assets of private Iranian citizens? Has the Iranian gov ben labeled terrorist, or all Iranian citizens been labeled as terrorists? And the US wants to spread freedom to the Arabs/Perisans, right?

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"Hopefully the families awarded the $2.65 billion will enjoy this unfortunate family's life savings."

You are being facetious, right?

9/8/2007 12:34:50 AM

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"what like a dozen total in the last 4 years?"

Uh, IIRC, the Lancet study concluded Coalition forces had killed around 200,000 Iraqis. I bet you those weren't all terrorists.

9/8/2007 12:38:37 AM

^^ I don't quite remember from the article how the siezure was justified, only that I was outraged by it. I just tried to find it again through google and the like with no luck. I think I read it in the daily brickbat in Reason Magazine.

9/8/2007 8:25:42 AM