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"Modern PCs are horrible. ACPI is a complete design disaster in every way. But we're kind of stuck with it. If any Intel people are listening to this and you had anything to do with ACPI, shoot yourself now, before you reproduce."

9/10/2007 1:32:41 PM

Funny, I feel the same way about Linux.

9/10/2007 2:34:16 PM

Linux is not ready for end users, so it's certainly understandable that you'd feel that way.

9/10/2007 4:07:59 PM

It would be nice if he cited reasons, but since he is the Linux guy I'll take his word for it without question. Or is there more?

[Edited on September 10, 2007 at 4:12 PM. Reason : l]

9/10/2007 4:11:27 PM

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"Linux is not ready for end any users, so it's certainly understandable that you'd feel that way."

It's like a nerd circlejerk they released on the world as a practical joke.

[Edited on September 10, 2007 at 6:36 PM. Reason : .]

9/10/2007 6:21:03 PM

^whats your beef with linux? and what is your preference?

9/10/2007 6:59:08 PM

Hey, don't knock linux until you've tried ubuntu.

9/10/2007 7:27:31 PM

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"^whats your beef with linux?"

It sucks?

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"and what is your preference?"

Windows

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"Hey, don't knock linux until you've tried ubuntu."

It's all the same shit. Just trade Makefiles for RPMs for apt get for whatever the command du jour is for installing past a dependency clusterfuck.

9/10/2007 7:39:33 PM

nm

[Edited on September 10, 2007 at 7:48 PM. Reason : ]

9/10/2007 7:44:19 PM

if linux worked with my devices better i would migrate to it. but for a completely FREE o/s, its not bad.

9/10/2007 7:55:31 PM

I like how I don't need anti-spyware programs on Linux.

Personally, I dual-boot linux & windows. I use linux for mostly programming, web development, and work-related projects, while using Windows for everything else (or whenever linux pisses me off, but thats rare )

[Edited on September 10, 2007 at 7:59 PM. Reason : ]

9/10/2007 7:58:12 PM

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"Major : Communication - Media "

ah, makes sense now.

it's just out of your league.

I'm not even arguing that linux is "better" than any other OS, but it's perfectly viable -- just not for people who don't like to tinker or don't have a very strong technical acumen.

9/11/2007 12:02:48 AM

Oh man, the old major zinger. At least I'm not embarassed to post what mine was.

Or do I need a Computer Science degree from a laughable CSC department to really appreciate Linux?

[Edited on September 11, 2007 at 12:11 AM. Reason : .]

9/11/2007 12:06:37 AM

Well, I assumed that your technology religion is the result of a non-technical background.

Either way, technology religion is as gay as being a UNC fan.

9/11/2007 12:10:56 AM

My contempt for Linux is more based on how crappy XWin is.

My complaints about it via command line (and where I use it most) are minimal.

9/11/2007 12:12:50 AM

Windows is a constant stable of hilarity.

Take for instance, adding a computer to a domain. Now you'd think -logically- that the domain administrator would have admin rights to the local computer that you just added? Of course not. Even if you try and remotely manage said computer, you can't, because apparently global user rights don't automatically propagate to the objects domain. No you have add/create a global group locally that domain admins are a part of.

Which would be fine.

Except if you chose to create a local group, you can't make it a global group without being logged in as a domain admin.

Yea I'm not a fucking MSCE or whatever they call it now but jesus christ does this shit have to be that fucking convoluted?

9/11/2007 12:54:18 AM

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""and what is your preference?" Windows"

hahahahahhaha






















hahahahahhahahhaaahahahaha

9/11/2007 2:40:54 AM

Not this shit again.

9/11/2007 8:31:37 AM

here's your sign, dumbass

9/11/2007 8:44:55 AM

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"Take for instance, adding a computer to a domain. Now you'd think -logically- that the domain administrator would have admin rights to the local computer that you just added? Of course not. Even if you try and remotely manage said computer, you can't, because apparently global user rights don't automatically propagate to the objects domain. No you have add/create a global group locally that domain admins are a part of. "

By default the Domain Admins groups is added to the local Administrator group on a computer once its added to a domain. You'd have to have modified your domain to change it. Or maybe you aren't a domain admin, but your group had higher level privledges on the rest of the domain. Like an account opperator. In this case you need to create a group policy to add account opperators to the local admin group on join.

It sounds like you either A) have a non-default AD config B) dont have the privledges you think you do or C) have some how managed to fuck up doing one of the easiest things in windows.

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"Except if you chose to create a local group, you can't make it a global group without being logged in as a domain admin."

I dont even understand what that means. Theres no reason ever that you'd want to migrate a local group of users to an AD group except for in some wierd case where you're moving from a network of non-domain computers to a new AD. And of course, creating groups and users in the Active Directory requires the privledges in AD to create groups and users in the Active Directory.

You dont need to be an MCSE to this stuff out. Its pretty brainless. If you cant manage a few windows boxes with AD, I cant imagine how you manage your linux boxes.

Linux is good for Spam Filters, webservers, DNS servers, and maybe 1 or 2 other things. But if you want to do anything thats not pre-packaged in your distro, prepare to go dependency hunting.

9/11/2007 9:06:56 AM

The very fact that I have all people can botch an AD install on the first try is a direct indication that its not as intuitive as you claim. Having known you, I also seriously doubt you setup a full windows network perfectly on your first try either.

A linux server environment is harder to setup, I agree, but debugging shit thats wrong with linux is less of a headache for me because I simply have a lot more information readily available.

9/11/2007 11:28:27 AM

ive been running linux at home for years. linux only wireless laptop, and dual-boot desktop. now even my desktop is linux only for the past several months.

i dont ever have any problems... just "opportunities"

9/11/2007 11:55:34 AM

The first time I setup AD took me about 30 minutes after the OS install was done. I bet you can do it too. Its literally, find AD setup wizard, specify domain name, setup dns server, next, next, next, go grab some coffee while it works, come back finish. I could probably do it in under 5 minutes.

Then adding a computer to the network is right click my computar, props, then either use the network ID wizard or change the name. Either way you're just tossing the domain name into the domain name field and hitting ok. Then putting in the credentials of an account that can add it to the domain. By default domain admins comes down to the administratos group and domain users to the user group.

I mean I dont know what you could be doing thats making it not work unless someone has fucked up something on your domain that you dont know about. And if this is Cisco's AD domain that you're using and not a testlab one I could imagine there might be some customization in there.

9/11/2007 12:04:45 PM

greatest BSOD gif in the world:

9/11/2007 3:49:30 PM

I nearly shat myself

9/11/2007 3:50:24 PM

as did i.



lololol

9/11/2007 3:51:37 PM

^^^ i just laffed ridiculously loud

9/11/2007 3:55:04 PM

I aim to please.

9/11/2007 3:58:57 PM