Figured there would be a thread already...he went off on this reporter after a game...here is the clip



I personally like this guy a lot more after this...aside from thinking the sports media can often hate on anybody who isn't flawless, I think its cool to see a coach publicly defending his players with such enthusiasm...on sports radio this has been a fairly polarized topic though with some people thinking he overreacted a lot...anyway heres a thread

also if somebody can find the clip of Chuck Amato saying "whats wrong with having dreams!" or whatever, that would be awesome

9/26/2007 11:45:54 PM

i liked the video and the defense of his players. However on the other side, sure they arent 'pro' athletes and theyre not getting 'paid' but they sure are getting plenty of help on the academic side (if not a full ride) as well as accommodations academically others do not get (in many cases).

So in the extreme case someone with a full ride is playing like crap *overall* I can see people kinda getting on them since they are getting some really nice benefits.

i know that doesnt apply directly to the video just throwing that out there.

9/26/2007 11:51:07 PM

pretty sure this is the article

http://newsok.com/article/3131543/1190442218?pg=1

just reading it you can tell its a load of crap

9/27/2007 12:02:45 AM

This guy is my hero. Its funny how the media is mocking him and everyone else is defending him. He has every right to call that bitch out, this is America. The media acts like he is some nut when all he is doing is defending his player. This is the coach every athlete should have, someone who has your back. The media needs to lay off of him, he is well within his rights and they show their own asses by calling his actions inappropriate.

9/27/2007 12:07:12 AM

what exactly does she mean by feeding him chicken? like she was holding the fork and putting it to his mouth or something?

also fwiw



^and at the end he got a round of applause as he was leaving...i'm sure some of that clapping was from other media members who might be a little more respectful, or focus more on the on-field aspects of the players

[Edited on September 27, 2007 at 12:08 AM. Reason : .]

9/27/2007 12:07:15 AM

^she's a fat chick, what does she know about football?

9/27/2007 12:12:10 AM

what a horrible article. She has no class.

9/27/2007 12:14:03 AM

^^^ Yeah that was good of them, but he's caught a lot of shit elsewhere, namely by ESPN. That idiot Skip Bayless was ripping him today with Golic defending him pretty well, but its definitely been more negative than positive. Funny thing is MSN Sports ran a poll about it asking who was right, and Gundy had 97% vs the bitch with over 15k votes last I checked.

[Edited on September 27, 2007 at 12:15 AM. Reason : 

9/27/2007 12:15:21 AM

of course the media's gonna bash him for it. it's what the media does. and he called them out for doing just that. and so now they're doing it some more.

and mike gundy's the man.

9/27/2007 12:52:53 AM

and this is why women should STFU about sports

9/27/2007 1:11:13 AM

except for like, Erin Andrews or something...and I've always liked Pam Oliver

9/27/2007 1:14:15 AM

Quote :

"and mike gundy's the man."

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" and this is why women should STFU about sports"

yes

[Edited on September 27, 2007 at 10:08 AM. Reason : ...]

9/27/2007 10:08:11 AM

how can someone who has obviously never played football at any level question someone's toughness and Fuck ESPN for trying to say its her duty as a reporter to report there are whispers of him being soft.

9/27/2007 10:36:21 AM

I really liked the video and his reaction, but the only thing I have to question is "why now" and "why Ried".
Now, i know nothing about Grundy or Texas Tech, but surely similarly bad things have been written before about his players, and I haven't seen videos of him going apeshit before. Does he have some special connection with the player? Was it just because this column took a particularly personal swipe at him, involving his mom feeding him?
because he's now really raised the bar for defending his players. Next time a lineman or wide receiver gets shit on by the press, is Grundy going to step up to the plate for them too?

9/27/2007 10:47:38 AM

GUNDY & OK ST

texas tech

9/27/2007 10:50:11 AM

its one thing to criticize a player for his preformance but this article talked about his relationship with his mom, called his manhood into question and did it using phrases like "rumor has it" or "the rumblings in the locker room". Even for a pro this got a little too personal

9/27/2007 10:56:49 AM

anybody that watches the whole video and not just the excerpt that ESPN shows, realizes that this really needed to be said

I have new respect for Gundy and OkSt, if I were an athlete, Id love to go play for him knowing he had my back like that

9/27/2007 11:07:31 AM

yea that stuff is just too unprofessional

9/27/2007 11:07:51 AM

god damn i wish i could play football for that man. I'm pumped.

9/27/2007 11:36:03 AM

I have never heard clapping after a press conference before.

9/27/2007 11:57:49 AM

I love how people attacking him say he should've "pulled her aside and talked to her privately"

9/27/2007 12:03:45 PM

she took it to the public level

he took it to the public level

9/27/2007 12:09:13 PM

according to the osu boards the kids mom is planning on taking legal action against the writer

that article is way too personal and way too "rumor has it...". write about the kid not giving 100% or taking plays off or just not playing well. dont call him a pussy and say he needs to be coddled by his mom. thats tripe.

not all of the media thinks gundy is in the wrong, this is a great article:

http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/7262930

on a lighter note, this is awesome:

http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid1126119384?bclid=1125972053&bctid=1200296594

9/27/2007 12:36:00 PM

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/columnists/jason_whitlock/story/290829-p2.html

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"Columnist Carlson made a mistake By JASON WHITLOCK Jenni Carlson, the target of Oklahoma State coach Mike Gundy’s now-infamous postgame tirade, is a talented, dedicated sports columnist. I’ve stated that opinion privately and publicly for years. I’ve known Jenni, now a columnist at The Oklahoman, since she was a student at Kansas and later when she was a high school columnist for this newspaper. The column she wrote about Oklahoma State quarterback Bobby Reid, the column that caused Gundy to melt down following the Cowboys’ victory over Texas Tech, is absolutely indefensible. Gundy called it “garbage,” and I can’t disagree. Why anyone in the media would choose to defend a column that is basically a message-board attack on a 21-year-old kid speaks to the insecurity of our profession. We make mistakes — all the time. There is no reason to turn defensive and blame Gundy for justifiably embarrassing Carlson the same way she belittled an amateur athlete. Carlson’s column reminded me of one I wrote in the mid-1990s about Marcus Allen and O.J. Simpson. My column, a fictional piece about a conversation between Allen and Simpson at the height of the Simpson murder trial, was supposed to be humorous, and it was. But it had no business being published in a newspaper. It was completely unfair to Marcus Allen. It was a dirty joke told inside a church. When I saw Allen in the locker room a couple of days after the column ran, he erupted, cursed at me, made threats and had to be restrained by teammates. By the next day, I knew I had made a terrible error in judgment. I immediately began the process of apologizing to Allen. I offered to write an apology column. He accepted my apology and told me it was unnecessary to write a public one. I then apologized to Allen’s wife, and she graciously accepted. Jenni Carlson owes Bobby Reid and Mike Gundy apologies. Her column was atrocious. In a newspaper circulated throughout the state, she ripped a kid by tying together a string of Internet rumors and out-of-context comments made by Reid to her co-workers. She basically called Reid a wimp and justified it by saying “if you believe the rumors and the rumblings.” Here are a few choice excerpts from the column: •“Tile up the back stories told on the sly over the past few years, and you see a pattern that hasn’t always been pretty.” •“Word is that Reid has considered transferring a couple different times, the first as early as 2005. Reid, then a redshirt freshman, was facing competition from returner Donovan Woods, and apparently, Reid considered leaving OSU just because he had to compete for the spot.” That bit of information was attributed to no one. I take that back, it was attributed to “back stories told on the sly.” Here’s another gem from the column. Carlson takes a Reid quote given to one of her colleagues — “The coaches made a decision. I just have to go with it, get better and get back on the field” — and interprets it in the most negative way possible: Carlson wrote: “There’s something to be said for not being a malcontent, but you can almost see Reid shrugging his shoulders as he says those words. Does he have the fire in his belly?” How can she see a shoulder shrugging on a player she apparently hasn’t taken the time to speak with herself? The kid stated he wants to get better and get back in the lineup. What was he supposed to say? I could go on. It’s unnecessary. She made a mistake. It’s not a big deal. It happens. What’s embarrassing is reading all of these columns calling for Gundy to be suspended or even fired for defending his player and calling out Carlson in public. Why didn’t Gundy address Carlson in private? Because her column wasn’t published in private. It went out across the state. Well, isn’t it silly to call Reid a kid and an amateur when he’s 21 and receives a full scholarship in big-time athletics? No. He is a kid. He’s not a professional athlete. And unless he’s accused of breaking the law or being grossly offensive, we don’t need to involve ourselves in message-board speculation about his personality. I don’t know a sports journalist, particularly a female or minority one, who would appreciate having their careers analyzed based on “back stories told on the sly.” Good journalists make mistakes. Rather than juvenilely asking Mike Gundy to explain why three-fourths of her column was inaccurate, I’d rather hear Carlson explain what journalism class at Kansas taught her to shred a kid’s character with “rumors and rumblings.”"

9/27/2007 1:09:35 PM

^That was a home run. Good article.

9/27/2007 1:49:39 PM

+1 to Mike Gundy

glad he brought this out and handled it the way he did.

9/27/2007 1:59:48 PM

I'M A MAN

I'M 40

I HAVE HAIR ON MY NESTES

I'M WEARING A VISOR

I DON'T THINK MEDIA SHOULD BE CRITICIZING 18-22 YEAR-OLD OLD-ENOUGH-TO-GO-TO-WAR "CHILDREN" WHO PLAY FOOTBALL

IT AIN'T INTRAMURALS

I'M GONNA SAY THAT PEOPLE SHOULDN'T DO THOSE SORTS OF THINGS, THEN WISH THE SAME THING ON THE PERSON IN A BLATANT SHOW OF ENRAGED HYPOCRISY

RAWR RAWR RAWR NOONE UNDERSTANDS YOU SHE-BEAR

THEY ARE WHO WE THOUGHT THEY WERE

AND WE BOUGHT THEM DOUGHNUTS

YOU WANNA INSTALL CROWN MOLDING?

HIGH PERFORMANCE HELICOPTERS

[Edited on September 27, 2007 at 2:10 PM. Reason : ]

9/27/2007 2:09:41 PM

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"I’d rather hear Carlson explain what journalism class at Kansas taught her to shred a kid’s character with “rumors and rumblings.”""

9/27/2007 2:19:40 PM

another point of view.

Quote :

"OPINION: Gundy proves to be 'the kid here' with on-air tirade By Ray Martin Oklahoma State head football coach Mike Gundy posed an excellent question Saturday during his post-game rant about Oklahoman sports columnist Jenni Carlson’s column about OSU quarterback Bobby Reid. “Who is the kid here?” Gundy asked, suggesting Carlson was more of a kid than Reid. Let’s examine Gundy’s question. Who was, in fact, “the kid?” Was it the columnist? The quarterback? Or the middle-aged coach wearing orange and black embarrassing himself in a press conference, which was later viewed by millions nationwide? You may have guessed where I fall on the issue. First, understand that Carlson is a columnist. The Oklahoman pays her to publish her opinions. As a sports columnist, that entails opinions regarding college athletes. When Carlson wrote about Reid, she was doing her job. Carlson wrote a fair-and-balanced column. She was attempting to explain why Reid was sidelined after OSU coaches had said he would start in the previous week’s game against Troy. Dennis Dodd, CBS Sports columnist, summarizes the situation nicely. “Coaches usually reserve their tirades for more important things like fumbles, arrests or their own marital problems,” he said. Even then, most coaches have the decency to do their yelling behind closed doors.” OSU’s third-year coach verbally attacked a female journalist and disgraced his profession after Saturday’s win over Texas Tech. Another important note about the Gundy tirade is that he was unable to give an explanation for the “three-fourths of the column” he insisted was inaccurate. Carlson and others asked Gundy which part of the column was inaccurate Monday at his weekly press conference. Gundy was unable to give an answer. As Carlson put it, “I really wanted to know from him what those inaccuracies were, and unfortunately, I didn’t get any answers. The question was asked by others in different ways and still nothing. It’s unfortunate because when you contend that there is that much is wrong with something, I, as a reporter would like to know what was wrong with the column.” This is significant. Gundy replied that he didn’t have to explain the inaccuracies and that he would rather just let them go. If 75 percent of Carlson’s column was really incorrect though, surely Gundy wouldn’t have minded giving just one example. It would have helped his case immensely. Oklahoman sports editor Mike Sherman said Gundy has had problems with off-the-field criticism of college athletes for a long time. This is something Gundy needs to get over. He needs to understand that college athletes like Reid are not just “kids” as he says. They are adults who play Division 1 sports and are public figures just like Gundy. Berry Tramel was spot on in his Monday column when he analyzed the situation. Gundy’s tirade was a public relations error. If Gundy doesn’t realize it now, he will. Burning bridges with one of the state’s largest newspapers was irresponsible. So who was ‘the kid?’ Was it the columnist doing what columnists do and stating her opinion? Or was it the coach who flew into a rage on TV? You decide."

http://hub.ou.edu/articles/article.php?article_id=301592300&search_id=542142082

9/27/2007 2:21:14 PM

She was wrong....the polls that have been asked where 95+% of the voters say she was wrong show that shes wrong. The only people that are trying to back her up are other mediots that i'm sure would love to write similar articles.

It is one thing to critique a kids play, or say that the team is playing like ass.......but to question his manhood, and to point out that his mom was feeding him chicken, and to not put your sources in an article. Thats just chickenshit.

9/27/2007 2:29:52 PM

^yup

9/27/2007 2:44:51 PM

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"^That was a home run. Good article. "

It's because Jason Whitlock is one of the most reasonable people in the entire media.

9/27/2007 2:54:41 PM

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"I DON'T THINK MEDIA SHOULD BE CRITICIZING 18-22 YEAR-OLD OLD-ENOUGH-TO-GO-TO-WAR "CHILDREN" WHO PLAY FOOTBALL"

he never said that, hes not mad that the guy is criticized, hes mad at how he was criticized

Quote :

"I’d rather hear Carlson explain what journalism class at Kansas taught her to shred a kid’s character with “rumors and rumblings."

[Edited on September 27, 2007 at 3:08 PM. Reason : .]

9/27/2007 3:08:34 PM

Have any of you seen this crap?

It's the reporter and editor's rebuttal posted on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4AisVxShCs

I hate this bitch more after this.

9/27/2007 3:21:41 PM

saps you better not be responding to me

I'M GONNA START YELLING AGAIN

I JUST HOPE WE CAN WIN A GAME



[Edited on September 27, 2007 at 3:26 PM. Reason : TALKIN ABOUT PRACTICE?!!!]

9/27/2007 3:25:34 PM

k im posting this again cuz i wanna make sure this link works

this shit is funny

click it now

http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid1126119384?bclid=1125972053&bctid=1200296594

9/27/2007 3:43:53 PM

aha

9/27/2007 3:54:26 PM

ill take that as a yes, good, someone told me it wasnt working for them

9/27/2007 3:55:51 PM