gs7 All American 2354 Posts user info edit post |
So to start, Comodo Firewall Pro 2.4.x (despite the name, it's free) has been my current choice a while now ... and finally I have some numbers to back it up ... they're also now the best rated firewall:
http://www.matousec.com/projects/windows-personal-firewall-analysis/leak-tests-results.php#firewalls-ratings
Beyond the link, I would just like to point out some of the major firewall players from their dataset... and show WHY you don't want to use them.
These are great or good, but most (not all) of them cost money: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Comodo Firewall Pro 2.4.18.184 FREE 9475 Excellent Jetico Personal Firewall 2.0.0.28 beta 9375 Excellent Outpost Firewall PRO 4.0 (1024.700.292) 8700 Very good ZoneAlarm Pro 7.0.362.000 8600 Very good Lavasoft Personal Firewall 2.0.1019.7604 (700) 8500 Very good Kaspersky Internet Security 7.0.0.119 8375 Very good Jetico Personal Firewall 1.0.1.61 Freeware FREE 7750 Very good Trend Micro PC-cillin Internet Security 2007 15.30.1151 7000 Good F-Secure Internet Security 2007 7.01.128 6625 Good
These suck, but EVERYBODY thinks they're ok, and some people actually buy them: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Norton Internet Security 2007 10.2.0.30 3100 Very poor McAfee Internet Security Suite 2006 8.0 2325 Very poor ZoneAlarm Free 7.0.302.000 FREE 1500 Very poor Outpost Firewall Free 1.0.1817.1645 FREE 1000 None Panda Antivirus + Firewall 2007 6.00.00 650 None AVG Anti-Virus plus Firewall 7.5.431 500 None Windows Firewall XP SP2 FREE 0 None And that's what's wrong with ZoneAlarm (the free version), AVG Firewall, Windows Firewall ... and for crying out loud, Norton and McAfee's firewall products!! Get rid of them, GO FREE! Get Comodo!
[Edited on September 28, 2007 at 1:25 AM. Reason : formatting]9/28/2007 1:21:03 AM |
evan All American 27701 Posts user info edit post |
i, for one, hate all software firewalls 9/28/2007 11:20:11 AM |
GraniteBalls Aging fast 12262 Posts user info edit post |
i've been using the sygate pro version for a while now.
it does it's job. 9/28/2007 11:25:24 AM |
Noen All American 31346 Posts user info edit post |
uh, thats just leak testing.
Wouldnt it be more useful to rate a firewall on it's inbound protection? 9/28/2007 1:18:21 PM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
^ word
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Quote : | "i, for one, hate all software firewalls" |
9/28/2007 1:33:41 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i, for one, hate all software firewalls " |
agreed. except windows firewall...it give me a false sense of security for some reason
if you people are really worried about security, just buy a pix501 and be done with it.]9/28/2007 1:49:06 PM |
evan All American 27701 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "if you people are really worried about security, just buy a pix501 and be done with it." |
this is a very good idea
also, the only software-ish firewall i like is pfSense - that shit rocks.9/28/2007 2:49:28 PM |
gs7 All American 2354 Posts user info edit post |
Wow, so that was a much more negative response than I expected ...
I may not know as much about networking as some people in this thread, but I do know that having effective leak protection is a -good thing- when it comes to a normal user that likes to get themselves into trouble. For us, sure we can get by with technical solutions, or nothing when we know what we're doing.
However, these days a normal user's computer should be setup with 3 forms of protection, Antivirus, Antispyware, and a Firewall. Does that mean that a software firewall is the best? Hell no. But I don't expect a common user to fork over an additional ~$500 for a pix501; nor do I expect them to be super-excited to kick up another machine to use as a *nix-based firewall for their network.
The trick is to balance technology out so that people don't have to think about what they're doing or how it's working, but just think/feel/know that it DOES work. And then, when the best working solution for them becomes free, now that user's experience at their computer becomes less of a hassle. People hate having to fork over more money for another A/V, A/S, or FW; now here's a firewall that has a friendly interface and is good at keeping that user safe without causing them to pay a penny.
I wasn't for a second meaning this should be used to replace any Cisco hardware in a corporate/office environment.
The main purpose for my post was to encourage people who were wondering "hmm, I heard I need a firewall on my computer, what is it and what's the best one?", to wonder no longer. 9/28/2007 4:32:03 PM |
evan All American 27701 Posts user info edit post |
or put them behind a NAT
then they don't need software based protection. 9/28/2007 4:55:14 PM |
gs7 All American 2354 Posts user info edit post |
Alright, well fwiw, it's a great Application Firewall ... it does more than just protect the network, it tells you when something is trying to access the screen, the keyboard, protected files, etc. 9/28/2007 8:48:16 PM |
robster All American 3545 Posts user info edit post |
Gotta keep in mind though that the average user just doesnt want to know its there at all... Give me a software firewall that will NEVER prevent me from doing what I normally do without having to see it ask me a question or remind me to update it or block content or crash my browser/program/computer .... Then Ill say you have a decent software firewall... People just dont want to deal with that crap any longer, so software firewalls lost alot of popularity. I for one, havent even looked at them since the annoying days of norton antivirus
But, maybe ill load one and give it a new chance next time I buy a new laptop... So for the chance that that happens, keep the suggestions coming !! 9/28/2007 11:36:35 PM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "windows firewall...it give me a false sense of security for some reason" |
which is why i still run it
Quote : | "Give me a software firewall that will NEVER prevent me from doing what I normally do without having to see it ask me a question or remind me to update it or block content or crash my browser/program/computer .... Then Ill say you have a decent software firewall." |
even if windows firewall is ineffective, it does this for me...i oftentimes forget it's running9/29/2007 10:06:37 AM |
Grandmaster All American 10829 Posts user info edit post |
pfSense
http://www.pfsense.com 9/29/2007 2:39:17 PM |
JBaz All American 16764 Posts user info edit post |
it honestly sounds like your promoting the product like an ad. You should buy ad space here if really like them... 9/30/2007 2:36:46 PM |
Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
as long as i can block everything thing inbound from china, i really dont have any issues 9/30/2007 6:26:09 PM |
kylekatern All American 3291 Posts user info edit post |
the score is bs anyway, it does a 125 for passing with default settings, 100 for passing on max settings, 0 for not passing. thus with 77 tests, zonealarmpro only failed 2 of them. That and they do not specify wich of the copanion products were running with zomealarm, i have found that if you run the entire zoenalarm suite of products most things get cought during install, not when they dial out or try and look out. Of course, i have another .... 10 years of updates on my 'special' copy i got forever ago, so i am good to go 9/30/2007 7:31:07 PM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
^ that wasn't english...it wasn't even close 9/30/2007 9:59:56 PM |
1 All American 2599 Posts user info edit post |
zonealarm keeps getting slower and slower
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