while that one prime minister broad, bhutto was just celebrating coming back

first i heard 35...now at least like 108....thats some shit

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071018/ap_on_re_as/pakistan;_ylt=AizKaZC_RsIM.lJNjU7dJASs0NUE

10/18/2007 5:29:07 PM

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"first i heard 35...now at least like 108....thats some NC State shit"

10/18/2007 6:51:30 PM

hahahahahahahahaha

ohhhhh tww

how great is the internet

10/18/2007 9:13:26 PM

When will you learn to stay the fuck out of soap box? Christ, you don't meant the minimum non retarded criteria to post here.

10/18/2007 10:39:17 PM

you sound like blasphemor with "broad"...what is this shit? 1980?

10/18/2007 11:16:22 PM

*sigh*

i cant stand how bhutto talks...her voice is annoying

10/20/2007 2:52:43 AM

new blast targeting bhutto again

12/27/2007 7:41:23 AM

holy fuck bhutto is dead...she was shot and killed...this is breaking news

12/27/2007 8:26:26 AM

Shot in the neck by a suicide bomber who then blew himself to bits.

12/27/2007 8:50:37 AM

RIP

More violence will follow. And if violent factions overthrow the current government in Pakistan, those factions will have the bomb. Frightening.

12/27/2007 8:51:43 AM

this is going to get really bad with her being assassinated. she made allegations that although musharraf's administration wasn't directly trying to kill her, they weren't doing anything to stop it.

no good at all.

12/27/2007 9:20:11 AM

plus, if i just heard correctly(was in the bathroom listening to tv), she wanted her own security, and pervez was like no you get the security i say you can get...so if thats true, it def. looks like it was his men that are responsible...she was in the fucking vehicle and they got a neck shot....must be someone in the inner circle of security...

12/27/2007 9:44:34 AM

Civillllll Warrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

12/27/2007 9:55:58 AM

cnn said like 48 percent of the people didnt like her, and that like 48 percent of the people in pakistan like osama bin laden...sounds like a fucked up country to me

12/27/2007 10:02:24 AM

Wait, muslims blowing each other up??? nooooooooo, cant be.

12/27/2007 10:32:56 AM

very sad

12/27/2007 10:40:46 AM

care?

12/27/2007 11:19:24 AM

^comments like that are quite sad in my opinion

12/27/2007 11:20:39 AM

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"^comments like that are quite sad in my opinion"

Why should I care?

A society, by and large, will receive the government and social conditions it deserves. If the people as a whole are so irrational, stupid, insane, or corrupt (or all of those) that they cannot maintain a functioning society, why should I care or be surprised when stuff like this happens?

Yeah, it sucks a hard one for the people there who don't contribute to the madness, and I do feel sorry for those 6 people.

The only reason I care a little is from the probable effect it will have on our foreign policy. We're just gonna spend more money and kill more people to accomplish absolutely nothing. I care about that, and the lives we'll waste on a pipe dream known as building respectable nations out of the dung-piles we occupy.

But how we waste that money, and to kill which group of retards, doesn't particularly matter as we're still going to be there forever. As the overused phrase goes, this just changes what kind of hole the Titanic has in it, while we keep rearranging deck-chairs at $1 Trillion apiece.

It makes very little difference to me who rules Pakistan and with what majority, as they are still fucked, and so are we as long as we're involved.

[Edited on December 27, 2007 at 11:53 AM. Reason : a]

12/27/2007 11:51:23 AM

i guess i'm not that cynical

12/27/2007 12:04:55 PM

I prefer to think of it as realistic

I still hold out a lot of hope for us, and a little more for them, if we'd just up and leave.

But now I'm derailing the thread.

Everyone go back to discussing how this somehow matters in the long run.

12/27/2007 12:20:48 PM

from drstevechaos

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"This is probably A Very Bad Thing - Pakistan's recently arrived-from-exile opposition leader and former PM Benazir Bhutto was just killed by a suicide bomber at a rally: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=abaD6XPZ9jwU&refer=home [quote]Pakistan's Bhutto Assassinated in Attack at Rally (Update3) By Naween A. Mangi, Khalid Qayum and Khaleeq Ahmed More Photos/Details Dec. 27 (Bloomberg) -- Former Pakistani Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto was assassinated in an election-rally attack in Rawalpindi, threatening the stability of a nuclear-armed nation that is a focal point of the West's war on terror. At least 16 people died and more than 60 were injured in the gunfire-and-bomb attack on Bhutto's rally, police said. The opposition leader, 54, had survived a previous attempt on her life when she returned from exile two months ago. Rioting broke out as her supporters gathered outside the hospital where her death was confirmed and in cities across Pakistan. President Pervez Musharraf, who had allowed her return to participate in parliamentary elections planned for Jan. 8, appealed for calm in a message broadcast on state television. ``I don't think elections will be possible now,'' said Hassan Abbas, a Pakistani political analyst at Harvard University. The death of the nation's most popular politician also deepens a vacuum within its civilian leadership to the benefit of the two other communities that strive to rule Pakistan: the military and Islamic militant movements. ``Long-term, it raises very, very serious questions about the stability of Pakistan,'' Farzana Shaikh, Pakistan analyst at the London-based Chatham House foreign policy institute, said in a phone interview from Montpellier, France. Mourning Period Musharraf announced three days of mourning in the country. ``We will fly the Pakistan flag at half-mast in her honor,'' Musharraf said. ``Terrorists are the greatest threat to Pakistan and we won't rest till we defeat terrorism.'' Musharraf convened an emergency meeting with top officials to discuss their response to the assassination, according to state-run Associated Press of Pakistan. It wasn't immediately clear whether Bhutto, the first female leader of an Islamic nation, died in the blast or was shot by the bomber before he blew himself up, Bhutto spokesman Farhatullah Babar told state-run television. Interior Ministry spokesman Javed Cheema said earlier in a phone interview that she was killed in the bombing. In Rawalpindi, where the army has its headquarters, shops were torched and Bhutto's backers clashed with police. Bhutto supporters poured into the streets across Sindh, the southern province that was her home, burning tires and setting fire to shops in Tando Allah Yar, Khairpur and Larkana, where she lived. ``It was Benazir Bhutto that posed the main threat to pro- Musharraf parties,'' Chatham House's Shaikh said. Worldwide Condemnation World leaders condemned the killing, and the United Nations Security Council scheduled a meeting later today to discuss the assassination. UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon asked Pakistanis to ``work together for peace and national unity.'' President George W. Bush said from his ranch in Crawford, Texas, ``We stand with the people of Pakistan in their struggle against the forces of terror.'' The U.S. had backed a partnership between Bhutto and Musharraf. ``The manner of her going is a reminder of the common dangers that our region faces from cowardly acts of terrorism and of the need to eradicate this dangerous threat,'' Manmohan Singh, prime minister of neighboring India, said in an e-mailed statement. ``Mrs. Bhutto was no ordinary political leader, but one who left a deep imprint on her time and age.'' October Attack The opposition leader survived an assassination attempt on the night of her return to Pakistan in October after eight years in self-imposed exile. At least 136 people died when suicide bombers attacked her welcome procession on Oct. 19 in Karachi, where thousands of supporters had gathered to receive her. Harvard- and Oxford-educated Bhutto was born in Karachi, Pakistan's biggest city, and was the eldest of two sisters and two brothers. She is survived by her husband, Asif Ali Zardari, son Bilawal and two daughters, Bakhtawar and Aseefa. Bhutto attributed her interest in politics to her father, Zulfikar Ali Bhutto, the prime minister overthrown by General Mohammad Zia ul-Haq in a 1977 military coup. ``She was, like her father, a deeply flawed leader,'' Shaikh said. ``But, she was one of the few popular leaders of Pakistan. She did street politics like no other. She was able to give people a certain sense of belonging.'' Zia ul-Haq went on to become president in 1978. The elder Bhutto, founder of the Pakistan Peoples Party, was hanged in 1979 after his conviction on charges of authorizing the murder of an opponent. Both of Bhutto's brothers were also killed. `It Chose Me' ``I didn't choose this life, it chose me,'' Bhutto wrote in the preface to the second edition of her autobiography, ``Daughter of the East,'' in April 2007. ``Born in Pakistan, my life mirrors its turbulence, its tragedies and its triumphs. Pakistan is no ordinary country. And mine has been no ordinary life.'' Bhutto was imprisoned for five years, mostly in solitary confinement, just before her father's execution. She later lived in London, returning to Pakistan in 1986. She was married to a man from a land-owning family of agriculturists in 1987. ``An arranged marriage was the price in personal choice I had to pay for the political path my life had taken,'' she wrote in her autobiography. ``My own parents had married for love and I had grown up believing the day would come when I would fall in love and marry a man of my own choosing.'' Zia ul-Haq's dictatorship ended when he was killed in a plane crash in 1988. Her government was dismissed in 1990. She won a second term in 1993 and was dismissed once again on charges of corruption in 1996. Managed Party She lived in Dubai and London since 1999 after being charged in Pakistan with taking kickbacks on state contracts. She wasn't convicted on the charges. While outside Pakistan, she spent time lecturing at universities and think-tanks around the world. She also remotely managed her party. Zardari, Bhutto's husband and a member of the senate, also spent over eight years in jail on 18 corruption cases. He was released in 2004 without any convictions. Bhutto flew back to Pakistan after Musharraf, 64, gave her amnesty on the corruption charges and agreed to give up control of the military by Nov. 15. In return, Bhutto didn't object to him being re-elected president by parliament and he won another five-year term. Vowed to Campaign The former premier had said she would limit mass election rallies and campaign by telephone to avoid a repeat of the Oct. 19 terrorist attacks. ``We do not want to endanger our leadership unnecessarily, and we certainly don't want to risk potential mass murder of my supporters,'' Bhutto wrote in the Wall Street Journal on Oct. 23. ``If we don't campaign, the terrorists have won and democracy is set back further. If we do campaign, we risk violence. It is an extraordinary dilemma.'' Bush banked on the relationship to return stability to a nuclear-armed country that, according to U.S. intelligence reports and officials, is failing to combat a growing Islamist threat. ``Bhutto symbolizes everything that's anathema to the extremists,'' Lisa Curtis, senior research fellow at the Heritage Foundation in Washington, said in a telephone interview. ``They want a Taliban-like theocratic state in Pakistan and she stands for democracy, modernity and change.'' Bhutto's moderate view of Islam and close contacts with the Bush administration made her a potential target for extremists in the world's largest Muslim nation after Indonesia. Islamic militants had threatened to assassinate Bhutto on her return from exile. `A Symbol' ``I know that I am a symbol of what the so-called Jihadists, Taliban and al-Qaeda, most fear,'' she wrote. ``I am a female political leader fighting to bring modernity, communication, education and technology to Pakistan.'' The twin bombings on her return to Pakistan in October also injured more than 500 people in the deadliest attacks since Musharraf took power in a coup in 1999. Musharraf had been informed that three people may be behind the attempts to kill her, Bhutto told reporters on Oct. 22, without identifying them. ``We will not be intimidated,'' she told reporters at her Karachi residence, Bilawal House. ``Despite the heavy loss we incurred, we will continue.'' `Al-Qaeda' Bhutto received a letter from ``friends of al-Qaeda'' on Oct. 23, threatening more suicide attacks, possibly using women bombers, her lawyer Farooq Naik said. Bhutto also said her houses in Karachi and Larkana in the southern province of Sindh were under threat. Musharraf imposed emergency rule in Pakistan on Nov. 3 as the Supreme Court neared a decision on the legality of his re- election as head of state while also serving as army chief. Bhutto called Musharraf's decision to suspend the constitution and impose emergency a mini martial law and said it jeopardized her power-sharing talks with the army ruler."

This is probably not good news for an already-unstable nuclear power...[/quote]

12/27/2007 1:47:50 PM

I still can't fucking believe it.

She had a portrait of her father at the ralley. He was hung in 1979.

What a fucking shame. Animals.

12/27/2007 3:06:04 PM

Didn't she come to NCSU a few years back? Shoulda stayed here instead of going back to durkastan.

12/27/2007 3:22:25 PM

http://www.mail-archive.com/members@ncpaa.org/msg00008.html

12/27/2007 3:36:09 PM

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"Yeah, it sucks a hard one for the people there who don't contribute to the madness, and I do feel sorry for those 6 people."

A minority of the population actually contributes to the madness. Most, if anything, do nothing either way.

12/27/2007 5:00:14 PM

not entirely sure that this thread should have been continued versus making a new thread... but, whatever

12/27/2007 9:13:14 PM

What-everrrrrrrr...

12/27/2007 9:18:34 PM

haha "durkastan"

12/28/2007 2:33:52 AM

Ive been so deep in vacation mode I didnt know this happened.

WTF!!!!

12/29/2007 5:26:10 PM

hahaha, these dumbasses named Bhutto's 19 year old son as her party's successor. Somehow, passing power by heredity seems against the spirit of democracy

12/29/2007 7:04:09 PM

Exactly what I was thinking...lol, seriously how archaic is naming your successor through your fucking WILL.


And originally she had named her husband to be the party's successor, and he was like "nah give to him." B/c we all know he is prob gonna get merced the same way she did, lets be honest.

12/30/2007 12:39:04 PM

^^ What, you mean like George Bush Sr. to George Bush Jr?

12/30/2007 1:45:54 PM

hey buddy we ELECT our nepotistic politicians

JFKBLOWNAWAYWHATELSEDOIHAVETOSAY?

12/30/2007 4:05:33 PM

ROOSEVELTS!!!!!!

12/30/2007 4:19:59 PM

12/30/2007 9:04:48 PM