Starting in the NBA this year.

Just hit a halfcourt shot.


Just another reminder of what a disgrace Herb Sendek was.

I still laugh at the fact that most NC State fans think Wilkens wasn't good at State.

11/1/2007 10:51:30 PM

i agree totally

11/1/2007 10:53:08 PM

damien wilkins > brett favre

11/1/2007 10:54:03 PM

hahaha

11/1/2007 10:55:29 PM

damien wilkens > philip rivers at NC State

11/1/2007 10:56:57 PM

half court are fluke shots

everyone gets lucky

[Edited on November 1, 2007 at 10:57 PM. Reason : 

11/1/2007 10:56:59 PM

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"damien wilkens > philip rivers at NC State"

I don't know about all that... but he was good.

11/1/2007 10:58:09 PM

d-wilk would of been a star at State under sidney

11/1/2007 10:58:53 PM

Herb coached five NBA players (that i can think of at least)

The two he kept on the team barely had a cup of coffee in the league (Hodge & Grundy)

I am neutral toward Harrington's departue because he was an overrated douche with a horrible shot selection but you can't argue he had more NBA shelf life than the aforementioned.

He pissed Powell off who has yet to shine in the league but has been roster material.

And he runs off Wilkens who so far has had some success in the NBA. What a fucking assclown, we would have been loaded with a roster of Grundy, Hodge, Wilkens, and Powell.

But thank god he stuck to his guns with talentless fucks like MOD.

11/1/2007 11:00:38 PM

HEY GUYS IS THIS THE BITCH ABOUT HERB SENDEK THREAD

11/1/2007 11:01:35 PM

I personally think uncles and dads shouldn't really have a say in how a college team is run.

11/1/2007 11:03:03 PM

11/1/2007 11:38:04 PM

^^^hailz ya i love these kinds of threads! LETTUM HAVE IT BOIZ!

11/1/2007 11:52:36 PM

fuck wilkens. when you think you are better than the team, no matter how bad the team is, you deserve to get the boot.

11/2/2007 1:50:50 AM

Who the hell is Damien Wilkens?

11/2/2007 3:23:44 AM

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"fuck wilkens. when you think you are better than the team, no matter how bad the team is, you deserve to get the boot."

11/2/2007 6:08:39 AM

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"I personally think uncles and dads shouldn't really have a say in how a college team is run."

Really. Correct me where I'm wrong but didn't Wilkens quit the team to try his luck at an early draft and come crawling back when he realized that he was trying to go pro too soon? Then Herb didn't take him back in part because of the quote above.

But I heard he made a halfcourt shot. Man we would have ruled that year had he been here.

11/2/2007 6:44:23 AM

[Edited on November 2, 2007 at 7:40 AM. Reason : ]

11/2/2007 7:39:30 AM

We should recruit based solely on a player's ability to hit halfcourt shots, cuz obviously that means you're awesome.

11/2/2007 7:41:30 AM

yea damien wilkins was so awesome at state and uga that he wasn't drafted

what a college player!

11/2/2007 7:52:10 AM

dont forget about (ma-he-uh)however you spell it

11/2/2007 7:58:47 AM

^domenic mejia? (I think that's right)

11/2/2007 8:16:05 AM

Damien Wilkens drinks wine coolers. Telling him to hit the bricks was the last good thing Herb actually did here.

11/2/2007 8:17:57 AM

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"I still laugh at the fact that most NC State fans think Wilkens wasn't good at State"

he wasnt

11/2/2007 9:27:44 AM

I always thought he was a pretty good player at state, but unfortunetly his dad/uncle thought he was the next coming of jordan and deserved to be treated so

11/2/2007 9:37:16 AM

^that...and also he had good potential at state...herb didnt quite know how to develop it...i mean nobody would say willie parker is a bad running back in the nfl...lots of people would acknowledge he "wasn't good at carolina"

11/2/2007 9:38:42 AM

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""I still laugh at the fact that most NC State fans think Wilkens wasn't good at State"

he wasnt good at UGA either

11/2/2007 10:07:03 AM

I would not want a coach who would keep a guy who's not a team player around just because he is high profile and/or has NBA potential. Wilkins was not good at the college level at NCSU or UGA, but was given a shot in the NBA because of family NBA connections.

I'd rather have players who perform well at the college level and win games and championships even if they have no prayer of playing or succeeding in the NBA than prima donnas like Wilkins.

College Basketball >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NBA

11/2/2007 10:12:35 AM

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"Wilkins was not good at the college level at NCSU or UGA, but was given a shot in the NBA because of family NBA connections talent."

He was pretty damn solid his freshman year at NC State. He regressed a little as a Soph., but I put that more on the coaching staff than Wilkins.

11/2/2007 10:21:12 AM

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"Herb coached five NBA players (that i can think of at least) [quote]The two he kept on the team barely had a cup of coffee in the league (Hodge & Grundy)"

Herb's job was to coach COLLEGE teams. BOTH were GREAT COLLEGE PLAYERS. It's not really his job to develop talent into NBA players--it's just nice and helps recruiting wise. Herb's job was to coach and win COLLEGE basketball games, which he was doing before he left.

It's also not Herb's fault Grundy became an alcoholic and that's why he was dismissed from Atlanta, ala KRob style.

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"I am neutral toward Harrington's departue because he was an overrated douche with a horrible shot selection but you can't argue he had more NBA shelf life than the aforementioned."

I' pretty sure no has missed him. Not a good fit here.

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"He pissed Powell off who has yet to shine in the league but has been roster material."

Actually, no. There was a reason he entered the draft when he did and it had nothing to do with Herb. That is as far as I will comment.

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"And he runs off Wilkens who so far has had some success in the NBA. What a fucking assclown, we would have been loaded with a roster of Grundy, Hodge, Wilkens, and Powell."

He didn't run off Wilkens, he just didn't allow him to come back after he decided to enter the draft, mostly because of his uncle and father, and the fact Wilkens wasn't a team player. Not being a team player is one thing, but when you aren't a team player, and aren't that good anyway, you're just a ticking time bomb. It was the best thing Herb did for the program.

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"But thank god he stuck to his guns with talentless fucks like MOD."

Didn't he end up transferring?

11/2/2007 10:47:11 AM

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"It's also not Herb's fault Grundy became an alcoholic and that's why he was dismissed from Atlanta, ala KRob style."

ive never heard that was the reason why

sucks if that is true

11/2/2007 10:50:29 AM

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"dont forget about (ma-he-uh)however you spell it"

Dominick Mejia would have never seen time here at NCSU.

You are confusing him with the one that went to DePaul (Sammy Mejia). The Mejia that played here (Dominick) went to Drexel. Totally different players. Some of you just make up shit to hate on Herb

P.S. it's Damien Wilkins...and he plays on possibly the worst NBA team out there.

11/2/2007 10:58:07 AM

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"Actually, no. There was a reason he entered the draft when he did and it had nothing to do with Herb. That is as far as I will comment."

plz comment further

11/2/2007 11:01:26 AM

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"Herb's job was to coach COLLEGE teams. BOTH were GREAT COLLEGE PLAYERS. It's not really his job to develop talent into NBA players--it's just nice and helps recruiting wise. Herb's job was to coach and win COLLEGE basketball games, which he was doing before he left."

so long as you realize the reasons that Duke and UNC perpetually beat our asses was because our best players were COLLEGE players and UNC and Duke always recruit NBA TALENT...thank God Sidney Lowe is recruiting players like JJ HICKSON who have NBA TALENT since thats what it takes to BEAT UNC AND DUKE

11/2/2007 11:28:19 AM

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"Actually, no. There was a reason he entered the draft when he did and it had nothing to do with Herb. That is as far as I will comment."

She's referring to the rumor that Powell would have been ineligible because of improper benefits or academics, one or the other. Of course, Powell has stated on record that he left because Herb favored Hodge over him.

11/2/2007 12:32:12 PM

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"Of course, Powell has stated on record that he left because Herb favored Hodge over him. "

Really? Interesting... considering Hodge was a much better all around college player then Powell and fifty times the leader Powell was, I think Herb was right... in this case.

^ Herb should have been fired for "lack of institutional control" clearly then...

[Edited on November 2, 2007 at 12:47 PM. Reason : x]

11/2/2007 12:47:24 PM

last nights 4-14 night actcually is indicatvie of his play at state, big risk/some reward player. he never met a shot he didnt like and, much like harrington, he was super streaky going cold or hot at the drop of a hat.

11/2/2007 6:05:51 PM

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"Dominick Mejia would have never seen time here at NCSU. You are confusing him with the one that went to DePaul (Sammy Mejia). The Mejia that played here (Dominick) went to Drexel. Totally different players. Some of you just make up shit to hate on Herb "

uhh. no. we're thinking of dominick and he turned out pretty good at drexel.

and wait...weren't you the guy that said we should have never gotten rid of herb? b/c there was no one else out there better?

hmm. how'd that turn out?

11/2/2007 6:11:14 PM

lock this thread, i dont know how you guys can still argue about herb. seriously, get over it.

11/2/2007 6:17:06 PM

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"so long as you realize the reasons that Duke and UNC perpetually beat our asses was because our best players were COLLEGE players and UNC and Duke always recruit NBA TALENT...thank God Sidney Lowe is recruiting players like JJ HICKSON who have NBA TALENT since thats what it takes to BEAT UNC AND DUKE"

Not really. We beat UNC last year, should have beat them in the ACC championship all with Herb players. Over Herb's years, we beat a #1 UNC and a #1 Duke (played them 3 timesand #2 Wake and MD with players that are no longer in the NBA or never had a shot. Duke and UNC beat us because they had speed, an inside presence, or a freakish 3 pt. shooter. That, and we had patented scoring draughts.

11/2/2007 8:01:54 PM

^sports and logic -- two of the greatest female weaknesses exposed in one post

11/2/2007 8:06:46 PM

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"uhh. no. we're thinking of dominick and he turned out pretty good at drexel."

Read what you just wrote fag. Drexel had the best team in the history of their school last year and we possibly had one of our worst and we beat them easily at their place. If you think Mejia would have done anything here you are insane. I guess Trey Guidry would have been ALL-ACC too.

EDIT: And with our sorry AD, if Sidney hadn't fell into his lap, who knows who would be coaching. Probably Dereck Whittenburg. That would not have been a good thing had Lee Fowler actually get a coach. Fowler got lucky with Sid. Whatever its pointless.

[Edited on November 3, 2007 at 1:23 AM. Reason : Fowler sucks]

11/3/2007 1:21:43 AM

anybody that told you they KNEW sidney would be a good coach before he came here is a liar

11/3/2007 11:57:47 AM

i thought his NBA experience would help him land NBA talent and take the program higher than Herb could eventually but you obviously can't "know" something before it happens

11/3/2007 11:58:51 AM

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"If you think Mejia would have done anything here you are insane"

ha i never thought he'd do anything incredibly significant here. just called you out for your ridiculous accusations. and dom would have been a fine reserve. i'm not crying over his loss though by any means.

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"EDIT: And with our sorry AD, if Sidney hadn't fell into his lap, who knows who would be coaching. Probably Dereck Whittenburg. That would not have been a good thing had Lee Fowler actually get a coach. Fowler got lucky with Sid. Whatever its pointless."

you can try to reason it anyway you want. no one ever claimed to know sid would come here or that he would be as good as he is. but the sooner you admit you were wrong and that WE ARE BETTER OFF for getting rid of your beloved herb, the better off we'll all be.

11/3/2007 12:24:45 PM

wilkins was a piece of fucking garbage

removing him from the program was Sendek's #1 accomplishment

11/3/2007 1:10:09 PM

http://www.brentroad.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=459853

11/4/2007 1:42:06 PM

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"WE ARE BETTER OFF for getting rid of your beloved herb"

we didn't GET RID of herb, he left

yet another reason i can't understand why people hate herb so much more than fowler or amato

if it hadn't been for herb, we would still have herb. fowler was prepared to keep him on forever

11/4/2007 1:46:43 PM

^the fans got rid of him. don't kid yourself.

11/4/2007 1:49:15 PM

right

11/4/2007 1:55:59 PM