seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Also, with regards to the cheating thing - in terms of relationships and how hurtful cheating is, is it any more hurtful than the wife withholding sex from the guy, or using it as a tool for manipulation? Marriage comes with expectations - one that the other will not cheat and also that you'll have frequent sex from the one you marry.
If you women will agree that the husband who hasn't gotten regular sex should be able to sue for divorce and the same benefits that you would accord a betrayed wife, then at least you're being intellectually honest.
If not, you're just being selfish" |
12/7/2007 2:23:00 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
12/7/2007 2:32:02 PM |
soulfire963 Suspended 1587 Posts user info edit post |
ibt fuchsia/bridget 12/7/2007 2:34:08 PM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
LOLZ 12/7/2007 2:36:35 PM |
GoldenViper All American 16056 Posts user info edit post |
Engaging in sexual activity should always be completely voluntary. Making a contract to have sex for x number of years seems dubious to me. 12/7/2007 2:37:52 PM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
to you it seems that way, but if i get married i am expecting sex in a regular cycle or i can say no matter how much i love her i got to get laid or the relationship will not last. tell me one relationship that you know of were sex once a month or something ridiculous tlike that (unless they are old)is cutting it? 12/7/2007 2:40:45 PM |
GoldenViper All American 16056 Posts user info edit post |
By "sex," do you mean some specific sex act? (Vaginal intercourse, for example.) 12/7/2007 2:42:25 PM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
sex is actually only vag to peen, all the rest are made up version of supplemental sex 12/7/2007 2:43:45 PM |
soulfire963 Suspended 1587 Posts user info edit post |
sex is making love. if you dont have sex how can there be love. 12/7/2007 2:47:44 PM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
well technically sex is only when you reproduce, making love is when you don't reproduce 12/7/2007 2:50:26 PM |
Jen All American 10527 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Marriage comes with expectations - one that .....you'll have frequent sex from the one you marry." |
i thought it was common knowledge tat one you got married you never got laid?12/7/2007 2:51:35 PM |
Str8BacardiL ************ 41752 Posts user info edit post |
Watch enough Dr. Phil episodes and you will get some crazy prospectives on this. 12/7/2007 2:52:18 PM |
soulfire963 Suspended 1587 Posts user info edit post |
^^ thats only for boring couples
and couples consisting of girls who marry the first loser they find because they're too scared of being alone, and end up having miserable lives
[Edited on December 7, 2007 at 2:52 PM. Reason : .] 12/7/2007 2:52:18 PM |
JayMCnasty All American 14180 Posts user info edit post |
yeah i used to work with a dude who fucked his wife all the time and loved it....i think the perception that wives dont have to fuck their husbands gets into their heads and they become so damn cocky that they dont give anything up.......jens comment is the exact reason why im afraid of marriage 12/7/2007 2:57:37 PM |
ScubaSteve All American 5523 Posts user info edit post |
in on the first page of this one 12/7/2007 3:02:00 PM |
Callaway All American 2126 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "If not, you're just being selfish" |
12/7/2007 3:03:02 PM |
Jen All American 10527 Posts user info edit post |
well my comment was a joke but you hear about that alot. Espically when couples have been together for a long time, work, have kids, get busy, whatever.
But your ^^^ right. Im doubt i would want to stay married to a man that didn't nail me to the wall every now and agian.
[Edited on December 7, 2007 at 3:07 PM. Reason : ^^] 12/7/2007 3:07:09 PM |
GoldenViper All American 16056 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "sex is actually only vag to peen, all the rest are made up version of supplemental sex" |
I hope you're joking.12/7/2007 3:13:51 PM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
tell me why you think i am joking? 12/7/2007 3:15:42 PM |
beergolftile All American 9030 Posts user info edit post |
i used to fuck like 3 times a day, but now it's like once every two days cause of the dog and house and job and sleep 12/7/2007 3:16:45 PM |
GoldenViper All American 16056 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Im doubt i would want to stay married to a man that didn't nail me to the wall every now and agian." |
What a wonderful way to put it.12/7/2007 3:17:46 PM |
JayMCnasty All American 14180 Posts user info edit post |
id file for divorce if my wife said she was gonna stop bwnin 12/7/2007 3:18:08 PM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
i would say once a week is a minimum. and thats borderline actually 12/7/2007 3:18:31 PM |
JayMCnasty All American 14180 Posts user info edit post |
yeah but as an overall average once a week is straight 12/7/2007 3:19:26 PM |
GoldenViper All American 16056 Posts user info edit post |
Minimums like that worry me. I don't like the idea of pressuring anyone into sexual activity.
"We're married! Have sex, damn you!" 12/7/2007 3:25:08 PM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
pressuring?
come on man how are you going to get some if you don't ask, or how is she going to get some if she doesn't ask? can you just walk up to your partner and throw them down without notice and just have sex with them whether they feel like it or not? i think not. 12/7/2007 4:05:48 PM |
casummer All American 4755 Posts user info edit post |
the answer to this problem is simple:
every wednesday night........it's business time 12/7/2007 4:07:45 PM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
also, it is wise to fulfill your partners sexually desires/fantasies (within reason) or else someone else will do it! really!
^ that should at least be a weekend night
[Edited on December 7, 2007 at 4:09 PM. Reason : sdfgh] 12/7/2007 4:09:00 PM |
StillFuchsia All American 18941 Posts user info edit post |
so that soulfire's "ibtfuchsia" still works...
stupidest thing I've read all day
there are glaringly obvious situations in which a sex "requirement" would not work
what about guys who can't get it up, even with medical help? what about people who've been in accidents where their sexual functioning is limited? what if two people get married on the grounds that they'd never have sex (like marrying a gay man who wants a green card in the US or something)?
[Edited on December 7, 2007 at 4:19 PM. Reason : etcetera] 12/7/2007 4:13:50 PM |
GoldenViper All American 16056 Posts user info edit post |
Asking isn't always pressuring.
However, I could easily imagine a man using some weekly minimum as a way to pressure a woman into sex. 12/7/2007 4:15:12 PM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
well i could see a wife holding out as being selfish. 12/7/2007 4:16:09 PM |
StillFuchsia All American 18941 Posts user info edit post |
if she's actively holding out, maybe
but most women have lower sex drives than men
and you guys don't deal well with this fact
[Edited on December 7, 2007 at 4:24 PM. Reason : and sometimes also have issues expressing love in ways that don't include your dick] 12/7/2007 4:23:10 PM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
yeah i understand that, i don't literally mean she has to bwn once a week, but you got to be reasonable, right? 12/7/2007 4:25:58 PM |
GoldenViper All American 16056 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "what about guys who can't get it up, even with medical help?" |
Why would that hinder sexual activity?
http://books.google.com/books?id=m3m3_Uq8qWkC&pg=PA131&lpg=PA131&dq=%22can+t%22+get+an+erection+%22best+sex%22+ever+clitoral&source=web&ots=G-2hmi2G-O&sig=0IBuG8H6ZlYTGx1X454uJUhThwo12/7/2007 4:26:00 PM |
soulfire963 Suspended 1587 Posts user info edit post |
this is why i will carefully choose who i plan on spending the rest of my life with. Except i don't want any bait and switch bs to happen. 12/7/2007 4:27:04 PM |
mdozer73 All American 8005 Posts user info edit post |
Right before I got married, an older gentlemen told me to put a jelly bean in a jar everytime my wife and I had sex the first year of marraige. After the first anniversary, he said to eat a jelly bean each time we had sex. I would die with jelly beans in the jar. Now that I am halfway through my third year of marraige and she is 4 months pregnant, I am beginning to believe him.
[Edited on December 7, 2007 at 4:31 PM. Reason : .] 12/7/2007 4:30:05 PM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
well i am going to sue if i don't get any within a reasonable amount of time intervals because i am sad that i have to lay next to some vag in my own bed and can't hit, and it is mentally stressful, and i have to divorce her in order to have sex with other women because i will not break marriage vows, and also i have to get used to another woman.
^ hahahaha
[Edited on December 7, 2007 at 4:31 PM. Reason : sdfgh] 12/7/2007 4:30:33 PM |
StillFuchsia All American 18941 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "but you got to be reasonable, right?" |
but then, don't you as well?
I mean, don't you also have to accommodate for her not wanting to have sex every week? You've got a very one-sided view of this whole thing.
And no, her not wanting to fuck you every day doesn't mean it's okay for you to cheat on her. Ever. The legally-binding part of marriage covers that. I mean, feel free to try and sue on such a ridiculous basis: see where it gets you. She's not neglecting you by having a lower sex drive.
[Edited on December 7, 2007 at 4:32 PM. Reason : ,]12/7/2007 4:30:58 PM |
JayMCnasty All American 14180 Posts user info edit post |
were not saying every day
were saying an AVERAGE of once a week, not every day
[Edited on December 7, 2007 at 4:32 PM. Reason : .] 12/7/2007 4:32:00 PM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
^^ yes you are right, i am kind of play devil's advocate here, but at the same time presenting a reality of why a marriage could fail.
women can sue for alimony, why i can't sue because my sex life is poor as a result of her?
[Edited on December 7, 2007 at 4:33 PM. Reason : rtfgyh] 12/7/2007 4:32:00 PM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on December 7, 2007 at 4:32 PM. Reason : stupid double post]
12/7/2007 4:32:21 PM |
Solinari All American 16957 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "her not wanting to fuck you every day doesn't mean it's okay for you to cheat on her. Ever." |
oh ho ho, i think we have a selfish one here, men.12/7/2007 4:33:15 PM |
StillFuchsia All American 18941 Posts user info edit post |
^
It's nice that you endorse cheating, completely disregarding the legal bounds by which marriage is currently set down in this country. Really, that's awesome. She likewise shouldn't cheat on him, though statistically, men are more likely to cheat on their wives than vice versa.
Quote : | "were not saying every day
were saying an AVERAGE of once a week, not every day" |
same principle, it doesn't change anything
[Edited on December 7, 2007 at 4:36 PM. Reason : .]12/7/2007 4:33:26 PM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
i endorse suing her and getting a divorce and use the money to have sex with hookers! 12/7/2007 4:34:57 PM |
Solinari All American 16957 Posts user info edit post |
well, its nice that you only think about marriage in terms of strict legalese, stillfuschia 12/7/2007 4:35:34 PM |
JayMCnasty All American 14180 Posts user info edit post |
i understand you cant have a marriage entirely based on lust, but you gotta fuck me when i want it....not EVERY time i want it, but if its been a while give it up for fucks sake 12/7/2007 4:35:48 PM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
^ pun intended? 12/7/2007 4:36:56 PM |
StillFuchsia All American 18941 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "well, its nice that you only think about marriage in terms of strict legalese, stillfuschia" |
Of course I don't. But are you fucking kidding? What kind of marriage, outside of one that sets up explicit rules for extramartial sex, allows cheating because "you're not getting enough sex whine whine whine"?
[Edited on December 7, 2007 at 4:38 PM. Reason : ./]12/7/2007 4:37:40 PM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
stillfuschia or however you spell it, who said anything about cheating? 12/7/2007 4:38:22 PM |
StillFuchsia All American 18941 Posts user info edit post |
you did, read the first post
seriously, cheating is wrong regardless of if she's "withholding" sex or not
and setting up a weekly requirement to "meet your needs" is ridiculous
[Edited on December 7, 2007 at 4:40 PM. Reason : .] 12/7/2007 4:38:52 PM |